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[blackg]

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Yes. To h.l.'s first point made. h.l. has never called you a bullshiter, Shookwun.
I said it!

 

[Rudiger]

Well not in this topic anyway, but I have done so a long time ago, and more recently (we're still talking a good few months ago) I've somewhat went back on it and said I don't know whether I believe him or not and frankly it doesn't matter. Yet as soon as he sees my username he starts clinging to this idea of "Don't call me a liar! I get pussy! You don't!" from out of nowhere, when nobody, f*****g, mentioned that.

Maybe it was a way out of discussing his odd hatred of twinks and love of buff guys.

 

[kveezy33]

@shookwun actually has stories to tell, and that's what I like about him.

Thanks to my extensive experience, I can tell that he's legit. And he can tell that I am too.

Just like zircon never questioned my anecdotes, especially after he also had similar experiences.

Members like @h.l. , or @blackg on the other hand, always the same abstract BS.

Nothing concrete. It's because you have no stories to tell, no anecdotes, nothing..

We're on an anonymous internet message board, and you value anecdotes over abstract thought. The nature of abstract thought is that you are responsible for the logic used and can be engaged in dialetics. Anecdotes are fleeting subjective distortions of reality that cannot be questioned.

1) OK you care, good. Then stop attacking shook on the fact that he cares about what people think of him

2) I think he cares, but not to the extent that you think. A lot of his posts are mostly humor, but that often goes way over your head.

This post is incredible. Just look at it.

Maybe it was a way out of discussing his odd hatred of twinks and love of buff guys.

This is quite common in people who throw themselves into certain weight training sub cultures. Their idea of male physical beauty becomes contained within a constraint. Any guy considered attractive outside of these constraints is met with incredulity as they passionately insist that either women actually desire drugged up bodybuilders or that they don't build muscle to please women. Either way, they resort to accusing these "twinks" of homosexuality to re-establish their own perceptions of manhood.

 

[Rudiger]

Great post, and this is gold:

We're on an anonymous internet message board, and you value anecdotes over abstract thought. The nature of abstract thought is that you are responsible for the logic used and can be engaged in dialetics. Anecdotes are fleeting subjective distortions of reality that cannot be questioned.

A sentiment I've echoed many times before but your message won't get through, trust me on that.

Nothing wrong with anecdotes at all, fine if you want to express something directly relevant, however when you try to shape the conversation around your anecdotes, clearly as an excuse to express them, then that's when they become completely meaningless.

 

[blackg]

When I can't dig myself out of a hole I will throw out the "incel" lable.

 

[Rudiger]

Fred always pretends that sex just happens to him like anything else, he said it just a page or so ago in this topic, it's not "boasting" as to him he's used to it, it's just another function in life. Nothing to be proud of as it's all about looks anyway right?

Then the next minute you see him throwing around the "incel" term as a negative connotation, using it presumptuously without any merit as an insult, this new poster makes a point against him so suddenly he's "incelish"? So childish, as well as saying he can "join the others" to create divisions between the "slayers" and "incels", when in reality he doesn't have a clue.

In the past he's even made fun of a guy with erectile dysfunction for being incel, claiming he didn't know (and I didn't showcase this publicly but I PM'ed someone a previous topic where Fred discussed that posters ED) so while he may pretend that getting sex is just a function and nothing to be proud of, the reality is that he thinks it's hilarious if you aren't getting any, it's an insult to you as a man, despite also claiming that there's nothing you can do about it as it's all genetic and circumstantial. Not only does Fred think it's shameful to not have sex, he thinks it's shameful if you're unfortunate enough to not even be able to literally physically have sex.

It's all hypocritical, it all has no basis in reality and makes no sense.

As previously mentioned I did used to share my own anecdotes about women and having sex, Fred would have no problems engaging with these stories, regularly agree, and that was no big deal. When did he suddenly decide I was an incel? When I started really digging into him.

It's as simple as that, he has no other basis for his reasoning. If you're on his side, everything's fine, you scratch his back and he scratches yours, if you disagree with him however?

Look above, suddenly you're "incelish", for no other reason than you disagree with him.

It really is that simple minded and childish.

 

[kveezy33]

That first part of your post feels very 'incelish'. Oh well, you can join the others.

I agree with the second part though. I've witnessed this many times on this forum, and not only from shookwun.

"This guy does not have a square jaw, therefore, he can't be considered attractive, I've decided so!"

This is silly. I say let the women judge when it comes to male attractiveness.



The incel sophist.

Lol, so you disagree that abstract thought has certain values not available in anecdotes, and then proceed to agree with my abstract thoughts on the nature of weight lifters who have defensive images of male beauty, purely because it already aligns with your worldview. You're not really interested in whether something is rooted in abstract thought or anecdotes.

 

[blackg]

Lol, so you disagree that abstract thought has certain values not available in anecdotes, and then proceed to agree with my abstract thoughts on the nature of weight lifters who have defensive images of male beauty, purely because it already aligns with your worldview. You're not really interested in whether something is rooted in abstract thought or anecdotes.

Don't confuse him, please.