Just shave it off bro!! It's all about confidence!

[Norwood]

 

[DannyBoyy]

OMG NOW WE ARE ALL DOOMED...being sarcastic obviously, all this really says is that those guys need to pick better women, someone who truely loves you wont care, FACT, and those women are out there, FACT.

 

[DannyBoyy]

Stop it DannyBoyy. Maybe some of these couples have been in a relationship for years and it was going well... until the guy went bald.

You can't just say "f-ck it!" and "pick a better woman" as you say, as if it were that easy, especially now that you're bald. Have some common sense.

And (sorry to say this again, but this is relevant), you've said yourself that you were incel, how would you know anything about "true love" or relationships?

Fact: women are extremely demanding and fickle. This is 2015, and being a young bald man is going to be a big disadvantage for you, even with the sweetest girl.

Fact: finding a truly good woman in 2015 is like finding a needle in a haystack. Most women are not good girls, and most good girls are already in relationships... with a NW1.

I never said i was anything, and if they was married for years not dating but MARRIED totaly different thing, leaving someone for loss of hair is pathetic, there is nothing else to it, all that says to me is that it was just physical attraction and nothing more. If i married someone i would stay no matter what happened to her, because i loved her "in sickness and in health, to death does us part". Hell even in dating i wouldnt leave for something petty. I never been married, but i know i wouldnt leave someone for petty reasons, it really isnt rocket science to know what you would be like in those situations, i know my mind you know yours thats how i know.

And true love? so you telling me there was "true love"? someone leaving someone for losing hair, or getting ill? etc i may not know true love i admit, but im pretty sure leaving someone for those reasons isnt "true love", and there never was "true love".

 

[DannyBoyy]

Relationships are extremely dynamic, though. You can't really frame them as the discovery of a person who has fixed attributes X, Y and Z. People change over time and in response to the qualities of the person they are with.

IMO you don't really "find" a good woman, you cultivate a relationship with someone who is willing to give back to you what you give to them. Part of achieving this is meeting a basic threshold of mutual attraction. The woman becoming fat, or the guy going bald and looking like a fluorescent sausage are obvious deal-breakers in this respect. It sucks for the guys, but who can blame these women? You're looking at these people for a huge part of your life, surely it's only human to want them to not be butt fugly.

My girlfriend has stayed with me through a lot and been extremely devoted to me despite my many and quite severe flaws. Part of the deal is that I have worked very hard to change these flaws. However, the time I went sly our relationship came incredibly close to breaking up. It only recovered when my hair did. For her it was an obvious deal-breaker, just like her going fat would be to me.

And LOL at DannyBoyy offering relationship advice. Just LOL.

So if you was married to a woman for years, everything was fine, and she lost her hair for whatever reason, or got bigger etc, you would leave her? even though you married her and said what you said in your vows? its not rocket science it really isnt, that leaving someone for those reasons after saying what you said in your vows is stupid.

 

[Dikek]

So if you was married to a woman for years, everything was fine, and she lost her hair for whatever reason, or got bigger etc, you would leave her? even though you married her and said what you said in your vows? its not rocket science it really isnt, that leaving something for those reasons after saying what you said in your vows is stupid.

I agree, what if you are married and your women has an accident, or she's sick etc if you leave someone just for something she cannot control you are superficial piece of **** which never really loved someone in first place

 

[DannyBoyy]

I agree, what if you are married and your women has an accident, or she's sick etc if you leave someone just for something she cannot control you are superficial piece of **** which never really loved someone in first place

Exactly where is the love that was promised in those vows? noone stays the same looks wise regardless its called aging, will they leave said person once they get wrinkles? go grey? etc etc, its their life do what they please, but in MY opinion, leaving someone for those types of reasons is pathetic.

 

[DannyBoyy]

Weight is something that can be controlled, and quite different from suffering an accident or chronic disease. Of course, baldness can only be controlled to a certain degree but many people don't know that. If my gf got obese and did not actively seek to lose the weight yes this would be a big turnoff for me and likely make me reconsider the relationship.

As for vows and such, marriage is a purely social construct and I don't really feel any loyalty to the rituals surrounding it. I feel very strongly for my girlfriend after what she has done for me, and would probably stay with her if she were to suffer an accident or some kind of debilitating disease. I say probably here because I don't pretend to know exactly what I would do in that situation. Anyone who does, especially if he/she is not in a relationship or even actively unable to initiate one (I'm looking at you Dannyboyy) is really talking out of his/her ***.

Look at the topic, most of those women talking about not being attracted to their other are married, how many who are gonna talk about this topic are not married? yet gonna talk about it anyway? sure i havent married someone and that said person was in some accident etc etc, ok you got me, but leaving someone for that reason AFTER saying what i said in my vows...is pathetic, not even vows its what i think anyway. I dont have to be in certain situation to know that, if i ever did leave for something like that i hope everyone i love would never speak to me again, but i know it wouldnt happen.

And the weight thing isnt always that simple, im not gonna talk about said situation for personal reasons, but it isnt.

 

[DannyBoyy]

Marriage is just a legal and social construct we have for codifying long-term, committed relationships. Unlike you, I don't attach any significance to things like vows, and don't think they should constrict a person into living a life of misery. That is not to say you should leave your partner at the first sign of blemishes, but there are limits to what a person should be expected to tolerate in the name of continuing the relationship.

Your judgments don't carry much weight, in my opinion. Based on what little you have told us so far, we can only assume that you have never been in a situation where your values actually matter.

I, and I guess most of the others here, would probably prefer if you actually opened up about your relationship history, if you have one. Provided you are sincere in your motivations to make us see things your way – this would go a long way in giving a reason to listen to your arguments.

Relationship or not, ive not been married regardless, and vows wise like i said i would think that way anyway. My point is IF i get married, im doing it cause i love said person and wanting to spend the rest of my life with said person, i cant prove these valves cause i never been married its only my word, but noone knows you more then yourself, and i know i would never leave her for those silly reasons, we all change due to age anyway, something everyone gets used to.

 

[CaptainForehead]

My point is IF i get married, im doing it cause i love said person and wanting to spend the rest of my life with said person,

Have you considered the fact that you might fall out of love?
"Love" is a chemical reaction in the brain and not something you control.

 

[DannyBoyy]

My problem with your former posts is that you are not just talking about yourself, you are also making value judgments and normative statements concerning how others should act, even calling it "pathetic" to leave someone over lost attraction.

Your apparent lack of sexual and romantic experience means that these arguments have very little weight. Essentially, they seem to be based only on your untested assumption that you would stay faithful to some future partner. IMO it behooves you to be more humble and to accept the uncertainties and shades of gray in this topic. You have little authority in even saying how you yourself would act, let alone tell others how they should comport themselves.

What i said was "pathetic" was leaving someone over hairloss and other similar like things, we change as we age anyway its the way of life i also said my opinion, and its your life to do whatever, not my buisness, again my opinion, im not trying to judge anyone sorry if i seemed that way. Me staying faithful is fact, my point was i just cant prove it to you since i havent been married, i know me better then anyone, so you knowing you, trust me im not gonna leave all because she put on weight, or been in an accident etc etc, thats not love, thats just only liking her for her looks etc, anyone can see that. Theres no shades of gray. Again i think its pathetic that someone who has been married for lets say many years everything is great, would leave over in this case hairloss, but thats my opinion, its silly to think i would have to be married to have a say.

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Have you considered the fact that you might fall out of love?
"Love" is a chemical reaction in the brain and not something you control.

People fall out of love it happens, but im on about something you should be expecting specially if you are gonna marry, hell why even date if you gonna run at first slight of change?. Anyone one of us cause get a disease right now, or be in an accident right now, thats life, if theres a chance you might leave said person cause of that then why even marry? we change in looks it happens, accidents also happens, way it is.

 

[macbeth81]

Another reason not to get married. About 70% of all divorces are filled by women, and now baldness is another reason. Nice to know you can lose thousands, be forced to pay mother (child) support for years, and lose custody of your child over hair loss. We are just vain for wanting our hair of course.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Apart from the appropriate, legal constraints and social ramifications attached to an enduring relationship, I believe there is an admirable quality of loyalty upheld in a monogamous relationship worth taking a closer look at.

I agree that most person's idea(s) of beauty is/are by and large unaltered thru the passing of time.
That is to say my/our own perception(s) of physical/sexual beauty will continue to positively hold it's value, while our attractive worth depreciates.

However, I don't consider this truth a double standard or necessarily a moral contradiction of principles either,
but rather strong evidence of humankind's longstanding pursuit of beautiful design.

Possibly this innate/ inborn predilection is one of several " evolutionary firewalls" brilliantly encoded in our primordial hominoid software to which only up to more recent modern times (argumentatively of course), may have finally outlived it's genetic prerequisite in order to survive?

Love and loyalty are something else altogether

And while we can experience both,
We can also experience one without the other.

Like newly formed relations,
long-term relationships can also soften like hot wax dripping from a candle and burn itself out in a single night.

We also know of elderly couples who have renewed their marriage vows and professions of mutual love
After six decades of purportedly sustained mutual affection and fidelity.

We don't challenge their marital longevity, we do pause to wonder whether or not our "significant other" will be nice enough to overlook our beautiful/youthful face and body,
as we gradually succumb to the wasting, decomposing nature of each new coming season.

Ultimately it is up to you and your lover to figure out if loyalty can fit into the equation.
Ideally sooner than later.

 

[DannyBoyy]

It's not a fact, it's an assumption you have made. From what we can tell, it hasn't been tested in any meaningful way and comes from a position of possibly being a virgin, either way a very sexually and romantically inexperienced individual. Certainly not someone whose definition of "love" carries much weight in my world.

Im talking about marriage, if you are marrying someone its a big deal dont you think? we not on about a 1st date where you get to know each other, we on about a thing what two people are doing what is pretty much them saying they want to be together forever etc. So for them to leave you over something what they should of known could happen, like a guy going bald, is silly. This shouldnt even be a debate. If i was gonna marry someone, my mindset would be what i have said over and over. And it is a fact i wouldnt leave someone if they lost hair, or been in an accident, sorry to break it to you. Theres things what happen in life, diseases, accidents that could happen to anyone, thats life.

 

[Exodus2011]

I didnt know you had a girlfriend zircon

 

[DannyBoyy]

Been together for over five years, even. I think I have mentioned her in other posts.

Anyway, I think I have made my point here comprehensively. I'll leave it to someone else to pick up the baton if they feel like continuing the argument.

There shouldnt even of been an argument, in my opinion i wouldnt leave etc etc you get the picture, i just wouldnt even the thought of it makes me dislike myself, sorry if i did judge anyone though never attended to, thats me done aswell, take care.

 

[winnyblues]

Ive shaved it all off.

Its all confidence m8
Dres well and be well cultured and surround yourself with positive people
Be smart and be rich.
Ez

 

[mpbsux20]

So if you was married to a woman for years, everything was fine, and she lost her hair for whatever reason, or got bigger etc, you would leave her? even though you married her and said what you said in your vows? its not rocket science it really isnt, that leaving someone for those reasons after saying what you said in your vows is stupid.

You are living in denial. The world doesn't operate like that anymore. Sorry to break your bubble but majority of young women get into a relationship for two major reasons i) Financial Security ii) Physical Attractiveness. The latter is pretty obvious as they want their progeny to be attractive too. As crude as this may have sounded, when it comes to maintaining long term relationships or even getting into a relationship these two factors matter on most occasions. Of course other traits like good manners and a positive attitude matter in having a healthy relationship and most certainly there are exceptions but you need to realize that exceptions can't be everyone's reality. If you fail to see this like it is, trust me, you are in for a big disappointment.

 

[DannyBoyy]

You are living in denial. The world doesn't operate like that anymore. Sorry to break your bubble but majority of young women get into a relationship for two major reasons i) Financial Security ii) Physical Attractiveness. The latter is pretty obvious as they want their progeny to be attractive too. As crude as this may have sounded, when it comes to maintaining long term relationships or even getting into a relationship these two factors matter on most occasions. Of course other traits like good manners and a positive attitude matter in having a healthy relationship and most certainly there are exceptions but you need to realize that exceptions can't be everyone's reality. If you fail to see this like it is, trust me, you are in for a big disappointment.

So does this mean you would leave your wife, if she lost her hair, got big etc?

 

[mpbsux20]

So does this mean you would leave your wife, if she lost her hair, got big etc?

Good question. I wouldn't because I have my morals but I don't know whether our relationshiop would be the same again. The question is kinda stupid as women lose their hair due to some form of disorder which generally can be corrected unlike male pattern baldness and even those that go through genetic baladness dont go full bald. Also hairloss in young women like ones experienced by men of similar age, is extremely rare. So your idea doesn't apply to the real world.

 

[DannyBoyy]

Good question. I wouldn't because I have my morals but I don't know whether our relationshiop would be the same again. The question is kinda stupid as women lose their hair due to some form of disorder which generally can be corrected unlike male pattern baldness and even those that go through genetic baladness dont go full bald. Also hairloss in young women like ones experienced by men of similar age, is extremely rare. So your idea doesn't apply to the real world.

There is a etc at the end of my question for a reason, i said it cause we are in a hairloss forum.