Large Picture of RU58841 REGROWTH in Stumptailed Macaque

[KielMcK]

Hey dave,
do you live in Japan yourself? Have you tried RU from this company? I'm surprised we haven't heard more about it or seen some before and after pics.

 

[abcdefg]

There are a few things to say.
One is there is no generic propecia only generic proscar. The patent on propecia I guess didnt expire yet and wont for years still
Two being massive hair regrowth on any animal doesnt take into account inflammation which is apparently very important and is why animal models are so different then people for hair regrowth studies.

 

[dave25]

No, I don't live in Japan but had a friend who worked there for a fes years and had bought Ru from the japanese Website of a well known company selling hair loss products on the web.....
The reason why this option hasn't been talked about a lot on the net is pretty simple : the site in question only sells to customers living in japan .. so basically you can get hold of the 3% RU solution if you have somebody in japan buy the stuff and later send it to you.
The results my friend got were quite encouraging: no more shedding and some regrowth of terminal hair in the temples and thickening of hair on vertex.

 

[dave25]

Frankly speaking ,after doing some research on RU for years and reading lots of scientific articles I have come to the following conclusions :

RU is effective as a treatment for male pattern baldness ( the results of all studies conducted even on humans speak for themselves)
It has the great advantage of being a topical ( it doesn't mess up with your hormones unlike propecia)
The only drawback which can actually impact its effectiveness in curing male pattern baldness is its instability and that's why it's vital that the solution (2-3-5%) be made by a professional pharmacist and not by the final users themselves !!!
This explains why a few posters on this and other forums who tried RU for some time didn't all get the results they expected from RU.
Unfortunately the people at prostrakan (scottish company)which holds the patent to RU are very uncooperative and won't give any details on the release of the product.
They state that the product is available for licensing meaning that if a any pharma company wanted to pursue phase III human trials and file for FDA approval they could do it..

The only other product we know of that may represent a major breakthrough for male pattern baldness sufferers is ASCJ-9. Whereas RU works by blocking the AR, ASCJ works by degrading the AR so that dht once formed can't bind to virtually nothing which in turn prevents the hair from undergoing the irreversible miniaturisation process we are all too aware of ...

 

[Bryan]

As to Prostrakan releasing RU any time soon , I am rather skeptical since they have a lot of financial problems to cope with at the moment and RU is not at all their priority......
too bad since RU ( in its liposomal form) does wonders since it stops male pattern baldness dead in its track like no other product (according to a study conducted in Germany in 2005)...

Can you be more specific? Which study are you referring to? Are you talking about one of the stumptailed macaque trials?

 

[Bryan]

RU is effective as a treatment for male pattern baldness ( the results of all studies conducted even on humans speak for themselves)

Are you claiming to be aware of studies done with RU58841 on humans? If so, can you cite them for me, please?

The only drawback which can actually impact its effectiveness in curing male pattern baldness is its instability and that's why it's vital that the solution (2-3-5%) be made by a professional pharmacist and not by the final users themselves !!!
This explains why a few posters on this and other forums who tried RU for some time didn't all get the results they expected from RU.

I think that's pure speculation on the part of some of the RU users. They didn't get the results that they were expecting, so they theorized that maybe there were stability problems with it. I have no reason to buy that theory.

 

[Mr ongo]

dave25: Do you have the url to that japanise website ?

 

[RagingBaldy]

Quite honestly, why don't we just pitch in to outsource a chemist to make the RU for us?

I'm sure there's professional chemists or companies out there that we can outsource to. Or is this not an option for some unknown legal reason?

 

[Bryan]

Quite honestly, why don't we just pitch in to outsource a chemist to make the RU for us?

I'm sure there's professional chemists or companies out there that we can outsource to. Or is this not an option for some unknown legal reason?

That's what people are already doing. The company is Faith Eagle in China.

 

[RagingBaldy]

Quite honestly, why don't we just pitch in to outsource a chemist to make the RU for us?

I'm sure there's professional chemists or companies out there that we can outsource to. Or is this not an option for some unknown legal reason?

That's what people are already doing. The company is Faith Eagle in China.

I should've been more clear.

I meant having it already mixed and in liposomal base.

I'm aware of those guys over there. But I'm referring outsourcing to a company here in the US instead of a foreign country.

 

[Bryan]

I'm aware of those guys over there. But I'm referring outsourcing to a company here in the US instead of a foreign country.

You understand that it's going to be a LOT more expensive with a US company, right?

 

[kento]

As to Prostrakan releasing RU any time soon , I am rather skeptical since they have a lot of financial problems to cope with at the moment and RU is not at all their priority......
too bad since RU ( in its liposomal form) does wonders since it stops male pattern baldness dead in its track like no other product (according to a study conducted in Germany in 2005) and would no doubt replace Propecia as the treatment of choice for male pattern baldness sufferers of course without all the sides of the latter !!

RU in liposomal can be tricky i guess if gets in bloodstream. I plan to give a try to RU in near future but PPG/Alcohol it's more safe maybe not the best for result but safety first.

 

[dave25]

Bryan, one of the studies I was referring to was the one done in Germany in 2005 on human scalp skin which used RU in a liposomal base U. Münster1, S. Lombardi Borgia1, C. Nakamura1, A. Haberland1, W. Mehnert2, H.C. Korting3, U. Blume-Peytavi4, R. Sivaramakrishnan5, K.D. Kramer5, M. Schäfer-Korting11 Pharmazie. 2005 Jan;60(1):8-12.

 

[persistentone]

Guys, I would just like to point our to you that RU 58841 has been selling for quite a number of years in Japan.....as a ready to use 2-3%solution if I remember well... and it is 100% legitimate RU and you can still purchase it on a regular basis as you would buy any other hair loss product... of course it is way more expensive than the one made by faith eagle (China) but why bother buying something in its raw form from China (and later end up making a mess mixing it up on your own ) when you can get it more easily in Japan?
For those of you who are interested , the RU sold in japan is made by a pharmaceutical lab in Estonia ; disappointing as it may be, they use an alcohol base instead of a liposomal base which proved to be much more effective in trials ( RUM myristate)

Does anyone sell the liposomal RUM myristate currently?

This thread is more than 12 years old. Incredible.

 

[Makaveli1988]

I was still a child when that thread was made lol

And ur still a child grow up b**ch