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It's not a very insightful one. It's just trafficking in lazy cynicism.

We actually have had progress in recent history. Hair transplants have improved, dutasteride is a lot more common, you can get RU58851 pretty easily, and there are a greater diversity of minoxidil formulations out there. Stemoxydine is a relatively new treatment for hair loss, works according to some people, I have not looked into it though.

In the next couple years, we might hear about polichem's topical finasteride, which is a legit effort as it's going through phase III trials. The italian company is trying that PGE1+equol formulation that could come out in 2017.

Within five or six years each of seti, bimatoprost, cb0301, sm04554 will be on the market if they pass their trials. That's where the "five years" comes from. Though note that we have had actual activity: we now know with good confidence that at least three of those compounds work, so it's worth getting into a group buy should they become available.

That's a decent level of activity. I doubt that the same could have been written in 2001.

Yes, science and technology expand together especially in biotech and things are going to start going faster. Either way, I have started a seperate savings account and named it, "H&W".. because I am tired of waiting. $23,000 and I will 6,000 FUT's. Then I never have to worry about treatments again.
 

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It's not a very insightful one. It's just trafficking in lazy cynicism.

We actually have had progress in recent history. Hair transplants have improved, dutasteride is a lot more common, you can get RU58851 pretty easily, and there are a greater diversity of minoxidil formulations out there. Stemoxydine is a relatively new treatment for hair loss, works according to some people, I have not looked into it though.

In the next couple years, we might hear about polichem's topical finasteride, which is a legit effort as it's going through phase III trials. The italian company is trying that PGE1+equol formulation that could come out in 2017.

Within five or six years each of seti, bimatoprost, cb0301, sm04554 will be on the market if they pass their trials. That's where the "five years" comes from. Though note that we have had actual activity: we now know with good confidence that at least three of those compounds work, so it's worth getting into a group buy should they become available.

That's a decent level of activity. I doubt that the same could have been written in 2001.

Good post. I remember coming to HairLossTalk.com in 2003/2004 and there was literally nothing in the pipeline except hair cloning with too many unanswered questions to it. I am surprised how much we have advanced from them. I remember how depressing the forum was as we knew hardly anything about hair follicle biology. We didn’t know even what caused gray hair, alopecia areata and universalis and now those conditions are practically cured. I would write a long list of what we learned since then but you get the picture.
Also keep in mind I think some people here are too negative. Even when there is a failure in the hair loss field with a drug it is also advancement in the field as it changes thinking and we learn. Like with sm04554 , the next drug coming after it will be better. :)

 

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Just because the hair loss industry has had a slow last decade doesn't mean we won't get a new treatment in the near future. I feel like the "just 5 years" phrase is becoming a meme on this foum.

And the worst part about that punchline Is that the person saying it actually thinks they're being original with it! It drives me up an effing wall... It's like the those family conversations where the obvious joke nobody wants to make cause the horse is dead and gone comes up, but your weird uncle that's never been one to shy away from bad jokes (yep the one that laughs harder at his own jones than anyone else) has to make it!
 

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And the worst part about that punchline Is that the person saying it actually thinks they're being original with it! It drives me up an effing wall... It's like the those family conversations where the obvious joke nobody wants to make cause the horse is dead and gone comes up, but your weird uncle that's never been one to shy away from bad jokes (yep the one that laughs harder at his own jones than anyone else) has to make it!
Yeah, I 100% understand people's cynicism. But from what I see, things are looking very good in the near future. Sure I may just feel optimistic because I'm younger than some of you, but I really do see things getting much better very soon.
 

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I'm no Clintonite either. B.S. is smelling better every day.
Can't support Clinton either after her remarks about the pharma industry.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/21/investing/hillary-clinton-biotech-price-gouging/

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When it comes to rescuing hair I'm not taking anymore chances.
They gonna refuse to take money from Americans because their feeling are hurt? Yeah right!
Cuba circa 10/19/60 comes to mind about now.
I was being mostly ironic, but today some analysts argue it's only a matter of time and the Chinese banks(s) will have the U.S. by the economical cohones.
 

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PrayTheBaldAway & Distracted, I just want to let you 2 know that it looks like a good night for HRC in the primaries. I think Sanders may drop out in the next day or two. He can't justify being in the race anymore. He'll make a lot of enemies in the democratic party if he stays in the race much longer because he's almost mathematically eliminated now given that democrats award delegates proportional to votes so even if Sanders won every contest from tomorrow forward HRC would still pick up enough delegates in all of those contests to secure the number of delegates required for the nomination. And if he stays in he won't win every contest from here on in anyway. She landed a knockout punch on him tonight. Trump has no chance against her. Independents are terrified of Trump. HRC is going to be the first female president in US history and Americans will be able to import medicines from other countries. It's about f'n time.
 

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PrayTheBaldAway & Distracted, I just want to let you 2 know that it looks like a good night for HRC in the primaries. I think Sanders may drop out in the next day or two. He can't justify being in the race anymore. He will make
enemies in the democratic party if he stays in because he is almost mathematically eliminated now given that democrats award delegates proportional to votes and even if Sanders won every contest from tomorrow on HRC would
still pick up enough delegates in all of those contests to secure the number of delegates required for the nomination. She put him away tonight. HRC is going to be the first female president in US history and the American people
will be able to import medicines from other countries. It's about f'n time.
I hate Bernie Sanders. I hope I wasn't sounding like I liked him. His policies would be economically devastating. I'm a mostly free market person. That led me to support Ted Cruz. Bernie is delusional and has no chance of getting the nomination.
 

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I hate Bernie Sanders. I hope I wasn't sounding like I liked him. His policies would be economically devastating. I'm a mostly free market person. That led me to support Ted Cruz. Bernie is delusional and has no chance of getting the nomination.

I don't think Bernie's delusional and I don't hate him but his ideas are unrealistic. He wouldn't be able to get his far left agenda through the congress. Bottom line: there are 100 US Senators and the GOP
would only need 40 votes to filibuster his agenda and there will almost always be at least 40 GOP senators. The GOP would never let Sander's FAR left agenda become law. And I don't trust Sanders against
the Russians/Putin. Sanders is too soft. He doesn't understand that there are times you have to fight. HRC is more moderate. She'll get republicans to work with her and she'll stand up to the Russians. I think
Russia and Putin are a big threat to us. Hillary's tougher.
 

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PrayTheBaldAway & Distracted, I just want to let you 2 know that it looks like a good night for HRC in the primaries. I think Sanders may drop out in the next day or two. He can't justify being in the race anymore. He'll make a lot of enemies in the democratic party if he stays in the race much longer because he's almost mathematically eliminated now given that democrats award delegates proportional to votes so even if Sanders won every contest from tomorrow forward HRC would still pick up enough delegates in all of those contests to secure the number of delegates required for the nomination. And if he stays in he won't win every contest from here on in anyway. She landed a knockout punch on him tonight. Trump has no chance against her. Independents are terrified of Trump. HRC is going to be the first female president in US history and Americans will be able to import medicines from other countries. It's about f'n time.

Thank you for the political update. I'll be voting for Trump as he is the lesser of two evils.
 

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Lol Trump is my back-up. Make hair loss research great again.

hahaha... true. If Trump becomes president, he would probably push for a cure, seeing how his son is balding as well. Good to have a fellow Michigander on here btw! How are you holding up in Flint?
 

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hahaha... true. If Trump becomes president, he would probably push for a cure, seeing how his son is balding as well. Good to have a fellow Michigander on here btw! How are you holding up in Flint?
I actually recently moved to Grand Rapids. Things are much better here!
 

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hahaha... true. If Trump becomes president, he would probably push for a cure, seeing how his son is balding as well. Good to have a fellow Michigander on here btw! How are you holding up in Flint?

Trump isn't going to become president.
 
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