My grandpa smoked like a chimney and never got lung cancer; therefore, smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.
Male Pattern Baldness And Prostate Cancer
My grandpa smoked like a chimney and never got lung cancer; therefore, smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, because you often are, but in case you're not
These anecdotes really don't matter. The studies aren't saying that if you have extensive male pattern baldness that you are definitely going to get prostate cancer or die of heart disease.
Rather, they show a strong correlation between the conditions and suggests that genes involved in their inheritance may be linked.
br1
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I wasn't.. But I was not saying the research is wrong either.. Just a neutral anecdotal comment..
It's just a correlation, in my opinion.. I believe in a healthy way of living (eat REAL food, exercise and avoid alcohol and tobacco)..
And I hope I don't get any freaking nasty disease..
** Days I am more sarcastic, are when I have my "bad hair day".
*** Today is a good day.
Bushi
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Every man if he gets old enough gets prostate cancer. We don't get lung cancer because we get old. I didn't say that if you have a full head of hair that you can't get prostate cancer. I believe the study, but it isn't 100% accurate.
The only thing we can do is clean the pipes often, eat healthy, eat a lot of broccoli and eat nuts daily. That would reduce the risk.
*Citation needed
So you can get prostate cancer just by getting old, but you can't get lung cancer for the same reason?
Or could it be, that cancer can develop due to a wide range of variables that can and do affect people of all ages?
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Perhaps because our androgen levels degrade a lot with old age? Cancer in the prostate happens both with very low and very high androgens as I remember (among other things) and since we're old farts by then there's no evolutional pressure for us not to get prostate cancer.
Man I really want to die young sometimes.
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Are there more women showing the same pattern on the drug?Taxotere is a cancer drug that can cause permanent hairloss in women, in a male pattern shape. What is astounding is that some of the women are suing the drug that saved their lives for hair loss. That's the impact of hairloss right there. But its not like we can sue our shitty genetics. XD
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bald people give up on life and get fat. not surprised here.
BTW
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that's actually very good of him to do this, because in the end he is right
That's not what they are saying. The studies indicate a link between Androgenetic Alopecia and increased blood levels for LDL, triglycerides etc. Not everyone taking cholesterol lowering drugs is fat or has given up on life. Cholesterol is produced by our liver. I'm not fat but taking low dose statin drugs because my LDL and triglyceride levels were slightly on the high side. And I'm Norwood 2.5 or so. I wish they would solve this for the sake of all of us.
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i really don't give a f*** about dying if i was bald
bald people are sub humans who don't deserve to live.
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I'd hate to hear what you think of people who are stricken with other ailments...
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first of all you are expecting miracles where there aren't from doctors, also a doctor probably saw tens of deluded men that believed the side-effects of finasteride are worth it
balding isn't curable, and finasteride kills your dick over years slowly and surely and decreases neuro-steroids that protect against alzheimer's and depression
Doctors also have to be psychologists and show that whatever plight you might have with baldness, it's like sulking about being short. Sure you can do it, but it won't do you any good, or you can go to china to chop your legs and make them longer, you still end up like a freak. As a doctor you have to tell the patients that the side-effects could not be worth it. At the end of the day he will give you the much needed finasteride prescription, doesn't mean he has to agree with you and not consider you a naive guy stuck in adolescence
balding is not a treatable condition
No, I'm expecting them to inform their patients about what can be done.
Doctor in question probably doesn't even know it exists.
It's gettin' there and there are men that between transplants, finasteride and minoxidil have maintained their hair since the early 90s.
No, it doesn't. You either get the side effects or you don't — most don't.
No, because being short isn't a medical condition or disorder.
As a doctor, you have to actually tell your f*****g patients about FDA-approved treatments for whatever ails them, inform them of the known risks that come with the medication and let the patient decide.
Doesn't matter if he "agrees" with it or not: It is not the doctor's place to withhold information regarding therapies or treatments that can help the patient.
So if a doctor didn't "agree" with the process of dialysis or chemotherapy, he should just tell his kidney and cancer patients to f*****g live with it?
Yes, it is treatable via 5-AR inhibitor pills, keto shampoo to reduce inflammation, vasodilators and transplantation. It will also soon be treatable with celluar therapy and probably wound neogenesis as well.
But you know this. You're just one of these guys who either didn't take finasteride because you believe everything you read on the internet and don't want an improperly-functioning penis women aren't enjoying anyway, did take it and nocebo'd yourself, or did wind up in the minority that legit had side effects and assume this is universally the case and now advocate against it like a 70's Christian mom against D&D.
If you really think balding is "not a treatable condition", then how about you leave because you have absolutely no business in the New Research Forum.
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No, I'm expecting them to inform their patients about what can be done.
Doctor in question probably doesn't even know it exists.
It's gettin' there and there are men that between transplants, finasteride and minoxidil have maintained their hair since the early 90s.
No, it doesn't. You either get the side effects or you don't — most don't.
No, because being short isn't a medical condition or disorder.
As a doctor, you have to actually tell your f*****g patients about FDA-approved treatments for whatever ails them, inform them of the known risks that come with the medication and let the patient decide.
Doesn't matter if he "agrees" with it or not: It is not the doctor's place to withhold information regarding therapies or treatments that can help the patient.
So if a doctor didn't "agree" with the process of dialysis or chemotherapy, he should just tell his kidney and cancer patients to f*****g live with it?
Yes, it is treatable via 5-AR inhibitor pills, keto shampoo to reduce inflammation, vasodilators and transplantation. It will also soon be treatable with celluar therapy and probably wound neogenesis as well.
But you know this. You're just one of these guys who either didn't take finasteride because you believe everything you read on the internet and don't want an improperly-functioning penis women aren't enjoying anyway, did take it and nocebo'd yourself, or did wind up in the minority that legit had side effects and assume this is universally the case and now advocate against it like a 70's Christian mom against D&D.
If you really think balding is "not a treatable condition", then how about you leave because you have absolutely no business in the New Research Forum.
I'll see you out
f*****g epic man
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actually it was alcohol, but still an accurate expression of my beliefs.
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I seem to remember similar opinions being expressed in Germany back around 1933...