Microneedling Photo Results Summary

[waynakyo]

the regression table. p-value should be less than 0.05. This is the case only for months of usage. But a HUGE caution about the sample size, and the biased nature of it. Also most people used minoxidil, not all, so you can't get enough variation to test that part.
Maybe a survey is needed from that 10000page thread.
PS: the regression itself is not significant
PS: forgot to add. The "result" variable, is purely subjective. I rated the growth rate based on my subjective assessment. Tried to proxy for growth rate.

 

[Tytygcac]

No a derminator is great.

Is it really much better than a drpen? I would buy the latter because it's more convenient for shipping to me, but I heard it causes micro tearing and I don't really understand how bad that is longterm

 

[N.Y.]

Dr. Pen M8 is very good. It has 0.18 mm thick needles and is more powerful than other models.
For comparison, the popular model A6 has a needle of 0.25 mm in thickness.

 

[Throwaway94]

Dr. Pen M8 is very good. It has 0.18 mm thick needles and is more powerful than other models.
For comparison, the popular model A6 has a needle of 0.25 mm in thickness.

Can confirm

 

[waynakyo]

Just to confirm, this?

Dr. Pen M8 Cartridges Tips 16 Pins X 10pcs | Dr. Pen Microneedling Pen丨Official Website丨Drpen.com

drpen.com

I don't trust people with no previous posts on the forum. So veterans let me know.
Nearly half of success stories come from regular dermaroller according to OP. I went through one by one.

So I wonder why dermapen?

 

[Throwaway94]

Just to confirm, this?

Dr. Pen M8 Cartridges Tips 16 Pins X 10pcs | Dr. Pen Microneedling Pen丨Official Website丨Drpen.com

drpen.com

I don't trust people with no previous posts on the forum. So veterans let me know.
Nearly half of success stories come from regular dermaroller according to OP. I went through one by one.

So I wonder why dermapen?

I have one of those but from aliexpress. Works well

 

[winbutler91]

So I am seeing improvement. A bunch of new vellus hairs have appeared on my problem area. I am 100% sure that these are new, but I am unsure if these can transform to stronger terminal hair. Can anyone here who have experience with this give their thoughts?

 

[CJ_Frankfurt]

Most are the results are done with a dermaroller or dermapen, does this mean a derminator 2 is in any way less effective since it isnt as aggressive as far as what I understand(you mentioned a few users who thought it was important to draw blood)? Sorry if it's a dumb question

I think the opposite is the case. Derminator 2 has a real heavy punch and if I do 1.5mm then my scalp is a bloody mess. Every scalp is different but I‘ve read a lot about people with heavy bleeding at 1.5mm with the Derminator.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

So I am seeing improvement. A bunch of new vellus hairs have appeared on my problem area. I am 100% sure that these are new, but I am unsure if these can transform to stronger terminal hair. Can anyone here who have experience with this give their thoughts?

minoxidil also? And depth and frequency of microneedling?

 

[winbutler91]

minoxidil also? And depth and frequency of microneedling?

Yes Been doing minoxidil plus 1,5 mm microneedling one time per week for four months. I also do 0,5 mm two times per week

 

[winbutler91]

You have any pictures?

Yeah, might post eventually. For now I'm just wondering if miniaturized hair developed from minoxidil and dermarolling can further develop into terminal hair... You know anything about this?

 

[Armando Jose]

Yes definitely. As many others have shown, miniaturized hairs can become normal and healthy again. For some it takes a bit longer though.

Hope you can post some good results (with pics) in a few months.

Yes, it is possible but miniaturized hairs to be thicker need a new hair cycle, then it takes a bit longer, a several months.... and in the better case, we can make calculations..., timing of the minaturized hair cyle plus exogen phase, plus the new growing hair at 0,3 cm/month.....

 

[winbutler91]

Yes definitely. As many others have shown, miniaturized hairs can become normal and healthy again. For some it takes a bit longer though.

Hope you can post some good results (with pics) in a few months.

This makes me so happy. Just the chance of it. Thanks!

 

[winbutler91]

This is intriguing to me: Scott Nali had IMO pretty decent results considering his age and starting point. Among people pursuing non-finasteride hair loss treatments, microneedling, minoxidil, nizoral and the different combinations of them seem to be the most popular remedies. But why aren't more people including Saw Palmetto in their regimen, as a lighter substitute for finasteride? Is there something I am missing?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Saw Palmetto is pointless. Just microdose finasteride or topical duta if you want to go low systemic impact route

 

[winbutler91]

Saw Palmetto is pointless. Just microdose finasteride or topical duta if you want to go low systemic impact route

What makes you say that? Scott Nali seemed to benefit from it

 

[Will Be an Egg in 5 years]

For some reason I fear microneedling. I'm afraid of hurting healthy folicles

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

For some reason I fear microneedling. I'm afraid of hurting healthy folicles

If you are scared copy Follica patent. At 0.8mm it is literally guaranteed impossible to damage a follicle that is at least 4mm deep. Not only you wont damage them but you will actually help regenerate them! Think about it.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Not relevant. Also the definition of "new follicles" differs a lot from study to study. In this case a "new follicle" refers to a dormant miniaturized one that is turned into vellus hair.

At 0.8mm it is physically impossible to damage the follicle. Anything up to 2mm probably too.

Hell, even in-clinic scalp mesotherapy is 60+ 4mm deep injections and follicles dont die.

 

[hidden1]

@Pigeon I have a question regarding hair lifecycle. I am using minoxidil with roller/pen for over two years I think. Mostly I was using 0.5-1mm depth needles. After reading this thread I've started using Nizoral and at least 1.5mm length needles. In the first month or 1.5 month I've noticed significant thickening of the hair and lots of new hair, which is, of course, bearly visible. I am not using fina and probably will never use.

Unfortunately for last one moth I see massive shedding It's now visible whatbit was and what it is at this moment. On the other hand I still see and feel growing hair under my fingers.

Can this be related to the hair cycle and now possible regrowth?

Also I'm considering FUE transplant in Turkey, but I'm curious if that's still possible after this two years of needling?

Any help will be appreciated