MSM supplement showing signs of new growth

[FromHairy2LarryDavid]

I've been on 5g a day for three years, together with oral minoxidil.

wow that's not even such a poor dose tho.. Did you start for joint stuff or growth speed if I may ask?

MSM on its own won't regrow bald areas decimated by DHT obviously, but in combination with something stronger I find it a worthwile addition.

yeah im afraid it'll boil down to an impressive initial effect and then stagnate eventually, leaving for a bottom line like you described.. in any case these higher dose effects seem interesting to observe so far. Won't hold my breath for my own sake tho.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

wow that's not even such a poor dose tho.. Did you start for joint stuff or growth speed if I may ask?

yeah im afraid it'll boil down to an impressive initial effect and then stagnate eventually, leaving for a bottom line like you described.. in any case these higher dose effects seem interesting to observe so far. Won't hold my breath for my own sake tho.

started for hairloss once it became clear I couldn't stomach finasteride and had to throw everything together in order to compensate and save my hair.

oral min/oral castor oil/MSM did save my hair. the first one does the heavy lifting, the other two keep my hair healthy

my theory was, since I couldn't block the DHT itself chocking the follicles, I would try to create a vasodilation effect strong enough to 'outpace' the constriction and then send as many growth stimulators to my follicles as possible

 

[Lumalux]

only negative is that it increases body hair. MSM+oral min+oral castor oil grew a thick fur all over my body

Will definitely be trying this combination.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

Eh I'd say it's not an impressive dose considering 3g a day only increased quality of hair in women

Here's a question are you taking it one time daily or in two doses? The 5g amount makes me believe you take it all at once is this accurate?

two times a day, split dosage. used to take it together with vit C to increase absorption but that didn't make a discernable difference imo

I went up to 10g a day the first months, but I settled on half my original dose. mostly because I tastes f*****g foul and chucking down 10g of the stuff really isn't a viable, long-term solution for me. especially since I noticed only a marginal difference between 10g and 5g

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

It's encouraging that oral minoxidil and msm did in fact save your hair but I'm hoping you're wrong about minoxidil doing the heavy lifting, I really am just not a fan of having droopy eyelids and will avoid it if at all possible. I am encouraged by the older anecdotes of guys using both oral and topical and seeing great results, here's hoping I can ditch minoxidil that aging sh*t

I'm very lucky in that regard; not even the faintest line on my face. but nonetheless, min is poison just as finasteride. MSM is actually healthy ( or atleast it feels like it is)

I hope you can maintain on a megadose of MSM. if your hairloss isn't as agressive you might have a decent shot tbh

 

[MrKmass]

Half a month on 10 grams daily. Strange how there's an unrelated autoimmune/hormonal shed going on, yet this supplement is powering through it with these small sproutings. One of them seems semi terminal and like half a cm long but I couldn't capture that. (edit: u can kinda see in the first pic actually)

Had to tune the contrast a bit tho so take it with a grain of salt. Main purpose was just to prove myself my fingers were really feeling something. Red line is baseline - never had growth below that on any treatment. (sorry for the acne and overall horror btw)

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Incredible results. I'll get on the MSM train.

started for hairloss once it became clear I couldn't stomach finasteride and had to throw everything together in order to compensate and save my hair.

oral min/oral castor oil/MSM did save my hair. the first one does the heavy lifting, the other two keep my hair healthy

my theory was, since I couldn't block the DHT itself chocking the follicles, I would try to create a vasodilation effect strong enough to 'outpace' the constriction and then send as many growth stimulators to my follicles as possible

Interesting ! What is your dosage for oral min?

 

[Jeju]

I've been on 5g a day for three years, together with oral minoxidil.

MSM on its own won't regrow bald areas decimated by DHT obviously, but in combination with something stronger I find it a worthwile addition. it speeds up the regrowth and gives my hair a thicker more luscious appearance

only negative is that it increases body hair. MSM+oral min+oral castor oil grew a thick fur all over my body

Yeah I suspected this would pop up. There is no way mega dosing MSM is more powerful than minoxidil or equivalent otherwise we would have known about it by now. Besides many of these guys are using finasteride/dutasteride/min which is what’s really working. MSM is for faster growth and shiny hair not regrowth. I’ll still use it for those benefits.

 

[FromHairy2LarryDavid]

what's the go with castor oil (without derailing this thread, or do we need a thread on that too)? skin, sleep, cognitive, lean mass, life span. dosing, etc?

on here I’ve always read it speeds up growth speed a bit and helps beard gains. All I’ve ever achieved anyway. Tho at 10ml the beard rly does benefit (less drastically than from say minoxidil but at least it does so without dependency, shed, wrinkles, dark eyes, heart issues etc.) altho it does bombard the gut as you’d expect from a laxative but u can build tolerence there imo
edit: as for the how, it’s shown to boost pge2 so it got picked up in the prostaglandin days basically

I believe it’s a decent adjunct treatment alongside MSM.

to keep it relevant tho id say neither of these hurt but rather contribute to a clean scalp environment and healthy hair. Again these huge dose effects are interesting tho. I just wanna see where they stagnate.

 

[Renovation]

Yeah I suspected this would pop up. There is no way mega dosing MSM is more powerful than minoxidil or equivalent otherwise we would have known about it by now. Besides many of these guys are using finasteride/dutasteride/min which is what’s really working. MSM is for faster growth and shiny hair not regrowth. I’ll still use it for those benefits.

You say this about mega dose, but its in response to someone who has said they took just 5g for 3 years, but 5g is not really a mega dose? Also everyone reacts differently so maybe this guy is a non responder? A few people on this thread who have reported good initial signs are taking 10g plus. Some of which appears to be new growth. Not saying it will be a miracle but this threads only been going for about a month and at least 4 people have posted close ups of new growth myself included. I'm not on and testosterone reducing pills, or minoxidil. Regardless we need to give it at least 4 months or possibly longer to see just how beneficial mega dosing msm is.

 

[300]

There will always be naysayers, and it makes sense considering it's a very common supplement. Important thing is to just stick to it for a decent amount of time. If it works great, if it doesn't at least it's giving extremely luscious hair

Dont you know by now,that some people come here for the social life?Some of them dont even have hair loss.They come to the forums to procrastinate,assume,speculate..etc

 

[Jeju]

You say this about mega dose, but its in response to someone who has said they took just 5g for 3 years, but 5g is not really a mega dose? Also everyone reacts differently so maybe this guy is a non responder? A few people on this thread who have reported good initial signs are taking 10g plus. Some of which appears to be new growth. Not saying it will be a miracle but this threads only been going for about a month and at least 4 people have posted close ups of new growth myself included. I'm not on and testosterone reducing pills, or minoxidil. Regardless we need to give it at least 4 months or possibly longer to see just how beneficial mega dosing msm is.

My point is that MSM has probably been tried at mega doses 10g plus. MSM isn’t new. If it worked we would have heard about it by now. Yeah this thread has been going a month. Everyone needs to chill. Eat your MSM and report back in 3 months. Not come back everyday saying you’re upping the dose lol
How many of the 4 are taking finasteride/dutasteride/min?
I’ve taken supplements like this before. Viviscal, toco, they all turn bum fluff darker. Stop reporting back bullshit about “new hairs popping up”
I’ll be trying this but you lot can’t be taken seriously from what I’ve been reading.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

I thought this after reading Light's post but apparently that stuff has too many intestinal sides - sounds like it'll loosen your bowels if you try to overdo it. Wouldn't be as liberal on the dose

I’ve sh*t my pants twice cuz of oral castor. It’s brutal

 

[Jeju]

There will always be naysayers, and it makes sense considering it's a very common supplement. Important thing is to just stick to it for a decent amount of time. If it works great, if it doesn't at least it's giving extremely luscious hair

I’m not a naysayer and I agree with what you just said. Take the same dose for three months and come back.

 

[OtyMac]

You say this about mega dose, but its in response to someone who has said they took just 5g for 3 years, but 5g is not really a mega dose? Also everyone reacts differently so maybe this guy is a non responder? A few people on this thread who have reported good initial signs are taking 10g plus. Some of which appears to be new growth. Not saying it will be a miracle but this threads only been going for about a month and at least 4 people have posted close ups of new growth myself included. I'm not on and testosterone reducing pills, or minoxidil. Regardless we need to give it at least 4 months or possibly longer to see just how beneficial mega dosing msm is.

At 6 grams in one study there was no change in systemic inflammation parameters and anything less than 6 grams is a pipe dream.

 

[300]

I’m not a naysayer and I agree with what you just said. Take the same dose for three months and come back.

You should be the supervisor.

 

[OtyMac]

Yeah, I mean I vehemently disagree with the assumption that finasteride, which did f*** all for 3 years except continued diffuse, is suddenly responsible for all the new light hairs some of which have gone terminal. It's a ridiculous claim. Minoxidil, sure it's more a wild card nobody ever knows because it's always shedding then regrowing. But people shouldn't just gloss over the fact that some of us have specifically kept track of anything new, and this "new" stuff kind of correlates to the start of MSM. So no reason to be a downer especially since we have the rare benefit of not having particularly bad sides

Edit: I also am strongly inclined to believe megadose MSM could be a powerful maintenance drug for early diffuse thinners. Strengthens hair and scalp tremendously, I might have been saved had I started this when I still has 3/4ths of my mane 4 years ago

If this was a talk of peptide X the latest pseudo-do-nothing drug with anything but a nutraceutical background then people would be drooling over it.

ALL MOLECULES, whether synthetic or found in nature are drugs and dosage and time determine the response.

I also have a sneaky suspicion that some of these low dose MSM studies which showed so-so results on pain(for arthritis) where DESIGNED to stay at a dose lower than what would work so people would turn to big pharma solutions.

The FDA has had a woody for the nutraceutical industry for at least 30 years and of course the FDA are funded by big pharma and do everything to support them for the kick back monies.

 

[300]

What more do you want dude, it's some people trying to report back the growth we are seeing. In my case I certainly don't even want to fill anyone with too much false hope but I need to be honest too. Nobody is trying to impress you and nobody asked for your validation. My hair feels great and I'm seeing random new terminals, whether it's MSM or not I have to report it. And you certainly have a pretty firm opinion for someone who's never been on finasteride or minoxidil and don't seem to know how either works

The only thing I agree with is that you're right, more reporting less talking. But hey that's bullshit to you right?

As i said above he is the supervisor,everybody reports to him.

 

[Jeju]

You should be the supervisor.

Yes ladies, report directly to my inbox.

 

[Jeju]

What more do you want dude, it's some people trying to report back the growth we are seeing. In my case I certainly don't even want to fill anyone with too much false hope but I need to be honest too. Nobody is trying to impress you and nobody asked for your validation. My hair feels great and I'm seeing random new terminals, whether it's MSM or not I have to report it. And you certainly have a pretty firm opinion for someone who's never been on finasteride or minoxidil and don't seem to know how either works

The only thing I agree with is that you're right, more reporting less talking. But hey that's bullshit to you right?

I tried finasteride for a year. Junk.
No it’s not bullshit. I’ll pipe down and let you guys enjoy yourselves. I’ve been unnecessarily pessimistic. Ultimately I want this stuff to work.

 

[Capone]

I’ve sh*t my pants twice cuz of oral castor. It’s brutal

Yep, castor oil & MSM is asking for trouble/squirts