I have been needling two to three times a week at around 2mm , Zix with arginine add twic a day , 10 mg oral miox in the morning , topical minoxidil twice a day , 2.5 mg of finasteried , Ketoconazole shampoo twice a week and 25.000 grams of MSM twice a day . Guys I am almost 70 years old and I went from close to being bald too getting about 80% of my hair back doing this for a year . Sorry I dont have any before an after pictures to show you but you just have to take my word for it . I have no reason to come on here an lie to anyone . I swear to god this is working for me .