thomps1523
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Are you 85?
No Cure And No Better Treatments In Our Lifetime?
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Are you 85?
thomps1523
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You'll be the first to disappear if it come out before that, and the first to keep pounding your drum if it isn't out in 5 years... nobody knows when it'll happen all we can do is wait and see... again many in here are nw2-nw4, and if repeat follica procedures, and injections from sheisido can bring people into nw2 range a transplant can fill in what everything else couldn't. For many in here that is a cure.
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Yep, that 17-18 yo is going to be a bald mess by age 30 (his prime will be over and his confidence destroyed by constant rejections) when that delusional singularity happens and then he will find out he can't afford the expensive *** sci fi cure.
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Im just being realistic.
We all can meet here in 2020, balder tha never before, and mad than ever before when we realize the same sh*t as always is al we got.
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The problem is you want to compare 80's science with 2020 science which is silly... you have an opinion, and I respect that, but you're all but presuming it's fact. As helpful as your bro science is to you, it's irrelevant for those looking for facts. Plenty of people come here to see what's going on and read comments like yours and get depressed. Never have we had legitimate companies with mass funding come in, and get so close to a release, so who gives a flying eff what was released in 1995, and attempting to make the medical advances we've seen today applicable to then.
Well around 2021 CB will come out, and if it does then you could take that with dutasteride/finasteride together. That combo would probably prevent male pattern baldness for decades in most men so that would be a functional preventative cure. Once your bald though its a whole different ball game. We dont know if its ever going to be possible to cure besides growing new hair and implanting them. Quite a pain in the ***, and very very expensive. Your way better off with the preventative route.
The big thing we are missing in the AR route to help stop T and the remaining DHT. Starting preventing because I think your looking at many decades before male pattern baldness is ever cured.
The big thing we are missing in the AR route to help stop T and the remaining DHT. Starting preventing because I think your looking at many decades before male pattern baldness is ever cured.
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???? I mean really, ???
It is not my fault if you do not understand english.
CURE=gene editing also known as gene therapy that prevents the mechanisms of hairloss (requires full knowledge of hairloss and the corresponding dna sequences) OR effective medication that STOPS shedding and REGROWTHS hair. People will NEVER have to worry and deal with their goddamn hair ever again.
CLONING= NOT a treatment but A SOLUTION due to the unlimited donor hair for transplants. It will help a lot visible but DOES NOT halt the underlying hairloss.
See my point?
Believing that cloning will come way sooner than cure is my personal opinion, based on my observations, on information about the industry and with some personal experience of how research in those fields is going on.
Edit: I am really sorry for you if you believe Follica will save you. Follica=Cotsarelis. That says it all.
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Tsuji and his team said approximately around 2020 if everything goes as planned with not any setbacks,but setbacks are unfortunately part of research.And by the time Tsuji says "Cure found,enjoy full hair" there will also be a period of 2+ years to get commercialised in many parts of the world (unless again you have loads of money and make sure you will be from the first guys that will go to Japan and have the treatment
)Also new players enter the game, like Angela Christiano, L' oreal and more... All of them have their own techniques.Hope the competition will speed it up too!
About Cotsarelis,I have repeatedly said (and received criticism and dislikes...) that he is just an academic, pretending to research crucial stuff when all he does is trying to ensure funding.He has just published meaningless papers with "findings" that have zero to very very few potential. And are WAY far from an actual treatment. That's the problem with most academics, they just play around with research and they are not anxious about finding something really applicable and functional.
Follica is in the scene MANY years (founded in 2005) and have produced so far...hold on... NOTHING. They just want to create hype, attract investors and get some cash.
The industry on the other hand is very concerned about profit and really gets things done.
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So let's say hypothetically cloning comes out... someone takes cells from dht resistant areas, and injects the cells to form hairs with density you had pre hair loss. That in itself is a cure for that person. If the cells are dht resistant how is that not halting their hairloss?
I'm really sorry if you believe cots would continue getting funding if he had nothing. Cots intelligence>than your assumed intelligence...
It's laughable that you presume to know the success of the potential treatments coming out if we're being honest here. I don't know if any will work, but im curious what your credentials are to say that they won't...?
Why 2029? We already have a few players in the game with hair cloning hoping to start clinical trials before 2020. If any of them succeed, it should be before 2029.
Yes Yes, and by 2032 we will be at war against strong AI, time travel will be invented at that time and by 2045 we will have warp drive and maybe teleportation! Sure!
What are you talking about?
Stop watching too much SciFi...
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¡Hola, chicos!
¿Como están?
Why the quarrel?
Nobody can predict el futuro. ¡Sólo el Dios!
Nevertheless, in mi opinion, predicting the future about anything, just by the failures of the past, is mere stupidity.
Stem-cell technology is in its infancy, sure, but more research teams than ever before are involved in esta tecnologia. In addition, there is an announced collaboration in a high-tech-driven country, como es el Japón, that is focused on hair regeneration via esta tecnologia. That´s not a scam, cabrones. It's something unprecedented and quite valid, in mi opinion. Personally, I can't see it becoming commercially available en masse before 2025, but that's also una especulación ... de mierda, jajajajaja.
¡Tranquilos, muchachos, tranquilos!
¡Hasta luego!
It is not, but it is going to take decades to make it available for mass market distribution.
Those predictions a la "in 5 years" are totally ridiculous and stupid. Stem Cell treatments will have to undergo tremendous safety tests until mass market approval. At the beginning, it will be very expensive, only millionaires will be able to afford it. Not until 2050.
Right now, as I type this, someone is undergoing a bone marrow transplant.
That's a stem cell therapy..
so why aren't you undergoing your hair follicle stem cell transplant?
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I am hoping that a cure will be available next year.
Are you really this dense? No wait, don't answer.
Until now, no major companies have seriously pursued stem cells for treating hairloss, though it's long been known they could potentially be used to treat baldness.
You're saying that stem cell therapies will have to undergo all these trials, etc. Inferring that it will be a special case and this shows that you are obviously ignorant of the fact that:
• 7 stem-cell therapies are already available and FDA approved including Prochymal, five different umbilical cord cell derived therapies for blood diseases and bone marrow having been in use for nearly 40 years. Bone marrow is the most widely used one.
• Cosmetic and other applications of stem-cells are currently undergoing trials just like anything else, several are in Phase 2 with at least one being part of amended regulations allowing it conditional market approval after Phase 2.
It's coming.