Nofap Challenge - Let's See If It Really Works.

abcdefg

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Masturbation starts after puberty.

Hair loss starts after puberty.

Coincidence?

;-)

Yes although there might be truth to the idea that hormones cause both of those. That doesnt mean though that not doing one is going to affect the other.
 

Yoshi3Mario

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Larry David, bald creator of Seinfeld,
was in a "contest" to see who could go longer without masturbating between him and his neighbor "Kramer". Larry wasn't bald at the time. The contest went on for months before Kramer caved and Larry won.

Let's get some simple end of discussion facts here:

1) male pattern baldness is genetic. If you're predisposed to bald you will go bald, unless you take some sort of dht receptor blocker.

2) everytime a nofap thread arises it's due to some poor masturbation addict that is desperately looking for motivation to stop his shameful habit. They may hope to god it might prevent them from going bald but with all certainty it isn't going to work. It's been tried, and measured. either masturbate or don't masturbate. Doesn't matter. Won't make any difference at all to the outcome of your future shiny head.
 

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So the Larry story tells us that if not masturbating prevented hair loss, Larry would have discovered this effect during the months he didn't masturbate. I conclude that he bladed regardless of this and he is living proof nofap doesn't prevent male pattern baldness. Not that he needs to be. But hey I encourage kids to experiment with nofap/noporn. Just don't expect any results related to your hair.
 

abcdefg

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Yeah nowhere does history repeat itself like on a hair loss forum. Over and over again the same snake oil dressed in different clothes or another nofap thread. The diet ones I can see the argument at least its plausible it could have some minor affect, but even that debate gets old.
 

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Larry David, bald creator of Seinfeld,
was in a "contest" to see who could go longer without masturbating between him and his neighbor "Kramer". Larry wasn't bald at the time. The contest went on for months before Kramer caved and Larry won.

They may hope to god it might prevent them from going bald but with all certainty it isn't going to work. It's been tried, and measured.

When was it measured, and how? Don't just make things up, link to a study.

Didn't Larry cheat in the contest? And that doesn't really matter. There are many factors involved in balding. It may have not been a factor in his case, or it may be that he became sexual hyperactive later.

If you really want to test it I suggest edging for about a week all day, every day. I bet you that your hair shedding doubles.
 

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p**rn is the problem.

Masturbation in-itself without p**rn is fine.
 

CopeForLife

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I never fapped more than 2 times a week don't know what is wrong with you...

You can see cuckold p**rn when man is jerking while another man (more dominant, with a bigger dong) is fking a girl in front of him.

Jerking on p**rn is the same, you sit in front of monitor and masturbating how more dominant man is fcking a girl in front of you @ just lol at you

Also the orgasm is so weak after jerking comparing cumming into vagina.

Can have sex up to 8 times/day with girl tho.
 

whatevr

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Masturbation starts after puberty.

Hair loss starts after puberty.

Coincidence?

;-)

No man you got this all wrong. Once puberty starts your voice starts to change. The fundamental frequency of your voice shifts downward and your voice sounds deeper. These lower frequencies in your voice resonate with the hair follicles causing them to be under stress and shut down.
You need to STFU for 90 days and your hair might possibly recover.

Source: Science
 

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Im trying no fap right now, only motivation is the challenge. Im on day 21 or so, and it's kind of nice, it's been a few days since i dont think about fapping anymore. I do live with my gf and we have sex, my goal is to focus my energy on her instead of my hand. Im enjoying the challenge, and may well keep it up indefinitely once i make it to 1 month.

Im not sure how it could cause baldness, I used to wonder and think maybe it's some kind of karmic punishment, but the idea seemed so fantastical that i came to my senses almost immediately. Who knows tho, maybe more frequent ejaculation causes more testosterone in your system to keep up with sperm production. That said i have my doubts it could have any impact at all. As another poster said, I tend to agree that it comes down to your genes.
 

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The thing about no fap is that it is a very understudied area and most people claiming no fap helps in so many ways tend to be religious people. My personal experience from 45 days without fapping, a sudden decrease from like 9-10 per week, is that you still get hair fall but at a slightly lower rate, I always dry my hair in my sink and fallen hair is very visible there so I could see a difference. It's absolutely not a cure and in my case not even maintenance would be possible as I am still losing hair.

Good luck abstaining for very long periods. If possible would you be able to take hormone tests (DHT, Testosterone, etc.) before and after your period of abstinence. Some actual scientific data would really help in this area.
 

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I'm not religious at all, but I know it helps. If I'm having a lot of sex and masturbating all the time, my hair falls out in clumps, no matter what treatments I'm using. If I'm not, then my hair loss stops even without treatment.

It's not a factor for everyone who is balding, but for me it was a huge factor. I wasn't fapping once a day though like most guys. When my hairloss started I literally did nothing but work, gym, sex, masturbate. It's all I did. It's the excess that is a problem and completely exhausts your adrenals.

Well sounds like you're doing it for the right reasons. Tell me though, Ive heard about them, but is there anything in these adrenals theory? What are adrenals and why does masturbating affect them? Please let me know.
 

Yoshi3Mario

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When was it measured, and how? Don't just make things up, link to a study.

Didn't Larry cheat in the contest? And that doesn't really matter. There are many factors involved in balding. It may have not been a factor in his case, or it may be that he became sexual hyperactive later.

If you really want to test it I suggest edging for about a week all day, every day. I bet you that your hair shedding doubles.

Shedding is not indicative of hairloss. I'm bald and never once had "shedding". My hair just got thinner and weaker and stopped growing.
 

abcdefg

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The whole idea of this is just honestly silly. Do women go bald if they have too much sex? They do go bald if injected with androgens. Key idea here is women dont go bald from having sex so how could sex be the direct cause of male pattern baldness? It doesnt even make sense.
Its one of the dumbest theories in male pattern baldness history. The only credibility I could give this theory is that I do think right before sex/during your testosterone levels might spike a LITTLE temporarily then go back to normal after. So net result is no major difference long term whatsoever. Maybe if you sat there jerking off all day 20 times, but at that point maybe you need to reevaluate your use of time more then worry about male pattern baldness.
The bottom line is guys try this to feel like they are controlling male pattern baldness somehow to get better results when really its all an illusion probably mostly a placebo effect. Hair loss is not a constant steady thing its always changing shed cycles and stuff. You cant tell just by counting hairs
 
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pegasus2

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Shedding is not indicative of hairloss. I'm bald and never once had "shedding". My hair just got thinner and weaker and stopped growing.

Everyone sheds. It's a question of how much and how often.
 

Yoshi3Mario

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Too much masturbation = zinc deficiency

Nutritional deficiencies play no role in genetic hairloss. Genetics do.. Other types of hair loss have nothing to do what it.

Your testicles produce sperm whether and it gets stored in the prostate. When you ejaculate it's called the refractory period. This has no effect on your body's zinc levels...

You're being a troll spitting on broscience.
 

Yoshi3Mario

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When you guys say you won't fap, are you going to abstain from sex as well, cuz you know the physiology is more or less the same... I think the issue comes from chronic masturbation, both psychologically and physiologically. If you ejaculate say once a week, or even every 3 days, I don't think it will really make a difference in the long run. The reality is, even if ejaculation contributed to increased hairloss, those who are predisposed to hairloss earlier in life, and a higher Norwood, you are just delaying or reducing hairloss that probably isn't all that noticeable.. at least at this stage in your hairloss.
Ejaculatuin has nothing to do with hair loss. In fact you Will have wet dreams whether you know it or not if you don't.
 
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