One thing all presidential candidates have in common

[Sweeping]

Ultimately the west, specifically America is to blame for these refugees.

God bless Putin.

You're right, the men controlling Obama is causing all this. Which is why if we elect Hillary Clinton, who is pretty much another version of Obama but ten times worse, then things will only go downhill, and America will piss of Putin even more. Hillary is owned by Wall Street, I have no idea why people like her so much. She's a damn liar, and the worst Secretary of State this country has ever had. Plus the whole email scandal.
There's a reason why Trump is the only one not getting his campaign funded by billionaire lobbyists (well alongside with Bernie but Bernie is a communist). Plus, Putin very much likes and respects Trump. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/politics/russia-putin-trump/

 

[blackg]

My reference to the refugees is of the people of Syria by the way not from Eritrea and Somalia.

You do know that the overwhelming majority of people in Syria were content in their own country before all this mess happened

Hahah..ya think so, huh?
There is no point arguing with someone who clearly lacks knowledge of this conflict. Syria.
Keep believing in your nice safe "it's all America's fault." narrative. If it helps you make sense of the world then good luck to ya!

I guess it saves you from doing any real re-search on the various conflicts affecting the Middle East and North Africa.

I have one word for ya...
NAIVE!!

 

[hellouser]

Hahah..ya think so, huh?
There is no point arguing with someone who clearly lacks knowledge of this conflict. Syria.
Keep believing in your nice safe "it's all America's fault." narrative. If helps you make sense of the world then good luck to ya!

I gets it saves you from doing any real re-search on the various conflicts affecting the Middle East and North Africa.

I have one word for ya...
NAIVE!!

It is though. If Bush hadn't lied and ruined Iraq after 9/11, you wouldn't have the problem in Syria today.

 

[Swoop]

Hahah..ya think so, huh?
There is no point arguing with someone who clearly lacks knowledge of this conflict. Syria.
Keep believing in your nice safe "it's all America's fault." narrative. If helps you make sense of the world then good luck to ya!

I gets it saves you from doing any real re-search on the various conflicts affecting the Middle East and North Africa.

I have one word for ya...
NAIVE!!

Are you actually implying here that such things can't be premeditated or steered upon?

Oh man, speaking about being naive :roll:..

(NVM, seems you changed your comment and I quoted your later one.)

Anyways teach me then senpai? What are the facts?

 

[nameless]

Let me rephrase myself. I believe the west, specifically America is to blame for these refugees.

You are correct I stated it as a fact, shouldn't have done that. Also, indeed I don't have much political knowledge at all.

My reference to the refugees is of the people of Syria by the way not from Eritrea and Somalia.

What I do think is that America should respect the sovereignty of other countries. But no, they want to impose their will on other countries. Why?

You do know that the overwhelming majority of people in Syria were content in their own country before all this mess happened?

What happened with Libya again?

I believe the sole mission of the West was to remove Assad who is in power. But they failed, and they will fail. Russia simply won't let it happen. Enough is enough.

The refugees are just a consequence (Syrian people).

What view do you have on it then?

Swoop, would you want to live under Assad's rule? Not me. He'll kill you for disagreeing with him.

The people of Syria "content" before the big mess in Syria - maybe so but that's just because they
got acclimated to Assad's level of abuse.

America creating the refugees - Nope. Putin is doing it on purpose. It's part of his strategy. Putin targets the opposition,
but he's also targeting regular stores, homes, schools, and hospitals intentionally to force noncombatant citizens to flee
to the border for safety. Putin is manufacturing the refugee crisis. America isn't forcing Putin to target stores, homes,
schools and hospitals. Putin's making these decisions on his own and the only reason he's getting away with it is because
of European and American appeasement.

If the west would stand up to Russia, Russia wouldn't do anything too drastic. We know this because Turkey's been kicking sand
in Russia's face and Russia isn't doing anything to Turkey. For all of Russia's threatening tough talk Russia is still letting Turkey
mortar Syria while all Russia does is whine to the UNSC (wah, wah, wah). And Russia hasn't done anything militarily against Turkey
for shooting down the Russian plane a few months ago.

Question: If Russia is so tough why doesn't Russia just waltz into Turkey and start kicking Turkish ***?

Answer: Russia = hot air.

Russia may end up kicking Turkey's *** but not until Russia's sure that the west won't defend Turkey. Turkey's the only participant
in the west with any guts and the west is trying to restrain Turkey. Big mistake. The rest of the west should be joining Turkey. I
despise Putin but I give him credit for guts because he's accomplishing everything he's accomplishing on guts alone.

 

[Jimbo5]

Could you see that midget Putin wearing a piece ... lol

 

[nameless]

Could you see that midget Putin wearing a piece ... lol

He infuriates me. I despise him. Bombing schools, hospitals, regular businesses and homes is barbaric and despicable. This is Hitler sh!t and
the entire west, including the USA, is sitting back and watching it. And they don't have to. Turkey is poking Russia in the eye and Russia isn't
invading Turkey so that should tell us all that Russia's tough talk is just a bunch of bs. The west should put its' foot down but it's too scared to
so they're letting the new Hitler commit barbaric war crimes.

And the net result is that the new Hitler is going to win BIG in the middle east because the west is not going to stand up to him.

 

[Ezraharsh]

I was just thinking about that today.. Sanders is not on the fringe anymore!

 

[nameless]

It is though. If Bush hadn't lied and ruined Iraq after 9/11, you wouldn't have the problem in Syria today.

I agree that Bush did not have grounds to invade Iraq but there is no doubt that America was attacked on 9/11 and Saddam Hussein was doing his level best to stir up Middle-Eastern hostility towards America. But I don't see
where that gave us the right to invade Iraq and and I know that most people in the middle east already hated us anyway so Saddam's anti-American crap was really just another drop in the bucket. Hence, I was opposed to the Iraq invasion.

That aside, it really does not do the free world, including Canada, any good to have a bunch of malevolent dictatorship countries on this planet. Keep in mind that these malevolent dictators all talk to each other, form alliances, and totally agree that freedom is a stain on the earth that should be wiped away. While we're sitting here having this debate China is stealing territory from smaller nations and Russia is stealing chunks of Ukraine territory. China's even stealing ocean that actually belongs to the whole world. China and Russia are doing this so they can expand their areas of influence. Dictatorships will be dictatorships. And notice how Russia and China have kind of banded together as they bully other nations and steal territory. And you would hate it if your freedom became a memory. Freedom and democracy are the light and tyranny is the darkness. Even though I was opposed to the invasion of Iraq I'm not going to shed any tears because some brutal malevolent dictator (Saddam Hussein) lost his country. I think that the freedom we in the free world enjoy is safer when a malevolent dictatorship morph into a democracy, or at least a less hostile dictatorship. I do believe that 2016-Iraq is not as malevolent as Saddam Hussein's Iraq was. I understand that it's not my decision to make, but I wouldn't have shed any tears if Assad had been pushed out of Syria and replaced by someone less malevolent.

Just to keep hair in the conversation I will mention that Putin doesn't look bad for a bald guy and Xi has good hair.

 

[blackg]

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It is though. If Bush hadn't lied and ruined Iraq after 9/11, you wouldn't have the problem in Syria today.

I bet you know all about the social conditions in Iraq pre-invasion. Nup. And Syria is a separate issue, pal. Duh!
And for the record.. I never agreed with the 2003 invasion of Iraq because I knew it would lift the lid on all this sectarian mistrust, which has lead to open conflict today.

 

[winnyblues]

Is this a forum for hairloss or politics....?:mrgreen:

 

[blackg]

Are you actually implying here that such things can't be premeditated or steered upon?

Oh man, speaking about being naive :roll:..

(NVM, seems you changed your comment and I quoted your later one.)

Anyways teach me then senpai? What are the facts?

The later comment was more precise.

As long as your happy with your narrative, then I'm pleased for ya. Free speech, son. God bless America!!!

 

[big_head]

Can't stump the Trump:bigun2::box::salut::salut::salut::firing: