Only 3 Potential Cures In Development.

Dhldan

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This thread’s just gonna b me rambling & my thoughts if any1 cares-

3 potential cures
-Riken Tsuji
-Hairclone
-Invitrohair

(Maybe tissuse)? Their goal is only to increase amount of transplantable/donor hair iirc.

Good news is those who are fortunate & aren’t balding aggressively (unlike myself) have future treatments (CB, replicel, follica, etc) to look forward to. The cure seems closer than ever & could potentially be here by 2021-2022 at best imo.

The bad news-

Unfortunately, none of these companies have yet to begun phase 1 trials yet with RIKEN being the clear front runner.

Invitrohair is charging around 100k usd to undergo testings for their product which is a red flag for me since the treatment’s unproven, hasn’t even been tested fully, and the price alone is ridiculous.

Riken human trials seem to have been delayed by a year.

Hairclone’s being developed by a bunch of hair transplant surgeons rather than scientists.

Everything seems to be years away & if Tsuji fails we’ll most likely have nothing for decades

Etc
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Like most I put faith & trust in Tsuji, there’s just a lot that could go wrong.

Gn guys, I’m exhausted so I apologize if some of this doesn’t make sense or comes off as pessimistic.
 

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That Alexey Terskikh is also starting or has started his own company so maybe he will be a player someday hes doing some form of cloning.
 

Dhldan

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Replicel is still a solution for you OP. Get a transplant and then get on one of the maintenance therapies.
Don’t think it’d be as my hair loss is very aggressive. I don’t like saying my age bc I feel like it makes ppl think I know less, but I’m 16 & receding+diffusing to norwood 6 & potentially 7. I might even have DUPA or retrogade, not sure right now, but hopefully it isn’t either. Tsuji’s my only option at this rate.
 

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The only promising NEW treatment is Fevi. Everything else is a pipe dream.
I don’t agree, I think CB/ breezula looks promising. Maybe replicel too and a few others, but regarding replicel idk what they’re doing rn, It doesn’t look promising with how they’re handling everything. Ur right though a lot of these developing treatments will be bricks. For me that includes fevi too since a lot of users claimed seti didnt do anything for them at all. I believe that seti/fevi’s just the wrong approach. Hopefully I’m wrong though bc I’d rather have an oral treatment along w finasteride rather than topical.
 

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How about you fck off, there are more options than nuking your hormones. And if he's 16 and agressively balding even duta probably won't save him.
Haha, thanks for the options really, but I’m asian and my hair looks very different than any hairpiece I’ve ever seen. I don’t think there’s no hope for me though. I’m currently taking .5 mg finpecia daily. Although my hairline still hasn’t recovered, it’s still only been less 2 months + im shedding much less. I’ve already accepted that I’ll eventually go bald, my goal’s just to maintain what I have for as long as I can (preferrably 15 more yrs).

I’m still a norwood 1 (right side) & 1.5 left regarding my hairline so it’s rlly just progression Im concerned abt. Praying that finasteride can halt it for the following years to come then duta + minoxidil when it gets worse.
 

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From all of these companies RIKEN is most professional and advanced. Plus, with them works really good scientists and doctors.
 

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Okay, then even Tsuji or anything will not save you BUT doesn't matter.

This is BY FAR the best solution for you, a hair system. They became very good, check this out:


Only problem will be overcoming the social stigma but again, everyone will understand, you're very young so nobody will look weird if you tell tem and even if they do, fck them. I advise every agressive balding man to go this route.

So there is hope, just need to get over the stigmatization.


Why do you keep repeating that the hair system is hope? I really don't understand it, it's the opposite of hope. Hope for what? To avoid hair loss? Hope for your hair to grow back? No, nothing like that. It's resigning oneself to the fact that nothing works and saying "Well, I'm going to wear a wig and then I'll solve everything". It would be like saying that there is hope and all we have to do is put on a cap and wear it every time we go outside, problem solved.
 

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IMHO the best hope for the near future is CB . I see things like tsuji coming far later then their advertised date, minimum expected date for tsuji imho is 2025 and even if it does come it will be at prices far higher than the common folk can afford. I hope the contrary happens, but I see it as unlikely.

Biggest reason why i have more faith in CB than other newer approaches is because it works on hairloss in the old proven method of attacking dht, with a better efficacy than finasteride and no sides. I see CB as the one more likely to succeed and which should come to market in the near future.
 

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Why do you keep repeating that the hair system is hope? I really don't understand it, it's the opposite of hope. Hope for what? To avoid hair loss? Hope for your hair to grow back? No, nothing like that. It's resigning oneself to the fact that nothing works and saying "Well, I'm going to wear a wig and then I'll solve everything". It would be like saying that there is hope and all we have to do is put on a cap and wear it every time we go outside, problem solved.
Cuz I think he’s on his way to wearing one and wants to feel better about himself. I think medications haven’t been working well for him, he wouldn’t stop criticising finastride and provide false info.
 

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Okay, then even Tsuji or anything will not save you BUT doesn't matter.

This is BY FAR the best solution for you, a hair system. They became very good, check this out:


Only problem will be overcoming the social stigma but again, everyone will understand, you're very young so nobody will look weird if you tell tem and even if they do, fck them. I advise every agressive balding man to go this route.

So there is hope, just need to get over the stigmatization.


I never get people who have a hairloss that advanced and don't fully shave their head, there is nobody in this world that would look better with that kind of hair instead of fully shaved. Also they always make a point of getting good looking guys when doing these things, they just try to make them look as shitty as possible in the before pic so they can look handsome in the after one making people believe hair magically transforms you from a nothing to a 9.
 

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This thread’s just gonna b me rambling & my thoughts if any1 cares-

3 potential cures
-Riken Tsuji
-Hairclone
-Invitrohair

(Maybe tissuse)? Their goal is only to increase amount of transplantable/donor hair iirc.

Good news is those who are fortunate & aren’t balding aggressively (unlike myself) have future treatments (CB, replicel, follica, etc) to look forward to. The cure seems closer than ever & could potentially be here by 2021-2022 at best imo.

The bad news-

Unfortunately, none of these companies have yet to begun phase 1 trials yet with RIKEN being the clear front runner.

Invitrohair is charging around 100k usd to undergo testings for their product which is a red flag for me since the treatment’s unproven, hasn’t even been tested fully, and the price alone is ridiculous.

Riken human trials seem to have been delayed by a year.

Hairclone’s being developed by a bunch of hair transplant surgeons rather than scientists.

Everything seems to be years away & if Tsuji fails we’ll most likely have nothing for decades

Etc
——————-

Like most I put faith & trust in Tsuji, there’s just a lot that could go wrong.

Gn guys, I’m exhausted so I apologize if some of this doesn’t make sense or comes off as pessimistic.


So Riken's trials are delayed and Invitrohair looks shady and you still think they will have a cure by '21-'22?
 

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So Riken's trials are delayed and Invitrohair looks shady and you still think they will have a cure by '21-'22?
At best 2022 for Tsuji. If human trials occur next year & pass w no issues & they solve all their problems it could very well b available to some by then. It’ll probably be somewhere around 2027-2030 though. At that point I doubt it’ll matter for most of us. Ill be around 26-28 by then and have accepted my hair loss.
 

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So Riken's trials are delayed and Invitrohair looks shady and you still think they will have a cure by '21-'22?
About that Invitrohair are they pursuing hair cloning while providing individualized treatment based on your genes do I have that correct?
 

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so I found someone on reddit who is currently getting a treatment under the conditional approvement regulations and he says we foreigners can forget about it for that time so tsuji will most likely never happen for any of us before 2028 or some sh*t

"The Japanese government does not give out conditional-approval medicine, or any medicine---doctors and facilities do that.

>conditional limited time approval restricts the recipient of the regenerative medicine product to certain medical institutions with certain specialized doctors and facilities.

First you have to find the specialized doctor and facility that is handling conditional-approval medicine (this will have to done in Japanese). This is normally handled by referral(s) from your friendly neighborhood clinic or GP physician who almost always send you to a university hospital that does all the record keeping for running the test of a conditional-approval medicine.

That university hospital, specialized facility or doctor can ONLY give one month's worth of a conditional-approval medicine. **You must return every month for a check-up that is recorded as part of the process of clearing a conditional-approval medicine for open/regular use. Therefore, you will have to be a resident of Japan to be available for the monthly check-up*** and new refill of your conditional-approval prescription.

Source: I am currently on such a conditional-approval medication, and it's sort of a pain in the butt even though I am Japanese-speaking resident with medical school connections and Japanese health insurance coverage with all the supplemental insurance options.

If you want to know whether or not foreigners will be able to get a certain procedure under this conditional approval

Unless you are Jeff Bezos flying into Japan every month on his private jet with his team of specialized medical interpreters to get his regenerative stem-cell hair follicle regeneration treatments, a non-Japanese speaking, foreigner without proper visa status• or Japanese health insurance is not going to get a certain procedure under this conditional approval process.

  • Japan does have a special Medical Stay Visa for medical treatments but that requires a "Certificate from a medical institution about the planned medical services and references from a Japanese guarantor" as well as full documentation showing the foreign patient's financial situation (e.g., a bank statements) to completely cover the patient's stay financially---Think $50,000 USD at the very minimum."
Welp... If that applies to RCH-01 as well then I guess I can say bye to it.
Nice find, man. Thanks for the info.
 
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