Only 3 Potential Cures In Development.

[Vinc2097]

The only promising NEW treatment is Fevi. Everything else is a pipe dream.

isnt fevi supposed to be out for global population in 2022-23 ? by this time most of us will be bald lol

 

[Jakejr]

Nice to read about these new treatments.
Don’t understand them, except hair cloning is interesting idea. It’s not getting to underlying cure so if initially successful will deteriorate over time. For me with all the things I’ve tried it’s growing back one hair at a time.
I’ve always had oily skin so probably oily scalp for whatever reason. I did notice when cutting sebum my hair stabilized & began to improve. Adult acne essentially non-existant. Pores in T-zone smaller, skin smoother.
So excess DHT without a doubt in my case has to be addressed or wasting my time.
So I started taking supplements to attack DHT. Shampoos & scalp exfoliation. Started growing some new hair back. Ofcourse too slow, but at least it’s possible. So this hormone subject has to be addressed until one reaches the point where the DHT doesn’t destroy the hair follicle. Granted this is a complicated subject. Finasteride I’ve never used. I believe Minoxidil reaches a point of diminished returns so I’m phasing that out although I have several variants.
Microneedling shows promise. Phyto RE 30 seems to improve hair structure on gray coarse hair. WNT products dimished results.
Tried a bottle Alpicort nothing for me.
Nizoral nothing also. L'Oréal Clemoxidyne I like. Copper peptides nothing. I’m trying some human hair stem cell topical so I’ll test that. Onion juice nothing. Laser therapy diminished results. PRP little to no results.
I’m always adjusting different amino acids per recommendation of successful regrowth protocols.
In my case I think my DHT is too strong for my fine hair & just zaps the hair follicle like Roundup weed killer. Dimishing DHT, keeping scalp clean, stimulation of scalp, supplements, few topicals have made a difference. Slow & steady difference.
No breakthrough yet, but improvement.
I read these forums for tips, line of inquiry, success stories. So don’t give up, there’s hope

 

[yayapapaya]

isnt fevi supposed to be out for global population in 2022-23 ? by this time most of us will be bald lol

2020.

 

[yayapapaya]

lol... 2019 and all people can hope for is fevi, something that will not even work. it's not that bad guys, there is a medicamentaiton that doesn't do sh*t for hairloss only 3 years away. we got form 5 years to cure to 3 years to nothing

Real seti helps me hugely, stops shedding 99% + decent regrowth. If fevi is a bit better, and no sides, it will be a game changer for hairloss community. I believe it might even be a cure for norwoods 1-3.

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

lmao he is Norwood 1 by his own admission. abandon thread.

 

[Warmer82]

Real seti helps me hugely, stops shedding 99% + decent regrowth. If fevi is a bit better, and no sides, it will be a game changer for hairloss community. I believe it might even be a cure for norwoods 1-3.

Where do you get seti from?

 

[MeDK]

Real seti helps me hugely, stops shedding 99% + decent regrowth. If fevi is a bit better, and no sides, it will be a game changer for hairloss community. I believe it might even be a cure for norwoods 1-3.

How can something be a cure if you need to be on some form of medication? Isn't it just a delay and not a cure?

A cure is when you have undergone a treatment and no more treatments are required.

 

[MeDK]

When talking about cures and stemcell treatments

A HIV positive got cured and is now HIV negative. The Guardian

It shows that stem cell treatments is a good way to proceed but still costs a lot of money still. This also shows that treatments like replicel is worth keeping an eye on.

 

[Dhldan]

When talking about cures and stemcell treatments

A HIV positive got cured and is now HIV negative. The Guardian

It shows that stem cell treatments is a good way to proceed but still costs a lot of money still. This also shows that treatments like replicel is worth keeping an eye on.

It shows stem cells was a food way to go for HIV. U can’t compare hair loss and HIV. Replicel has been very discouraging in terms of how everything’s been handled. I’m not convinced with rch-01 anymore. U cant just inject stem cells and expect results for everything.

 

[MeDK]

It shows stem cells was a food way to go for HIV. U can’t compare hair loss and HIV. Replicel has been very discouraging in terms of how everything’s been handled. I’m not convinced with rch-01 anymore. U cant just inject stem cells and expect results for everything.

Well too much is seems more realistic than covering your head in 20 different solutions and still hoping for a childhood hairline.

At least to me its better to remove the "problem" than postpone is with pharmacal products on your head.

 

[TK421]

Real seti helps me hugely, stops shedding 99% + decent regrowth. If fevi is a bit better, and no sides, it will be a game changer for hairloss community. I believe it might even be a cure for norwoods 1-3.

Do you take orally or use topically? Oral seti (from Lyphar) at 1,200 mgs./day didn't do anything for me.

 

[Dhldan]

This past month w tsuji delaying & the new info we’ve received. I think it’s safe to say not to expect a cure before 2025 (earliest) & realistically 2027-2030

 

[Dhldan]

Well too much is seems more realistic than covering your head in 20 different solutions and still hoping for a childhood hairline.

At least to me its better to remove the "problem" than postpone is with pharmacal products on your head.

Can’t completely agree with u there. Some topicals seem promising, like breezula. I’d take the topical that has been researched and proven over just injecting random stem cells into my scalp. Now if we’re talking abt zix, brotzu, & etc then yea replicel>. I personally don’t think any of these developing treatments will be better than what we already have. In the end we’re all just waiting for tsuji.

 

[byebyehair]

This past month w tsuji delaying & the new info we’ve received. I think it’s safe to say not to expect a cure before 2025 (earliest) & realistically 2027-2030

Tsuji supposed to be out 2020. Delay of 1 year.
Sure that makes 2025.

 

[MeDK]

Can’t completely agree with u there. Some topicals seem promising, like breezula. I’d take the topical that has been researched and proven over just injecting random stem cells into my scalp. Now if we’re talking abt zix, brotzu, & etc then yea replicel>. I personally don’t think any of these developing treatments will be better than what we already have. In the end we’re all just waiting for tsuji.

The whole point of a study is to make sure it isn't random stem cells used. Its not like the rolls some dices and be like "YES thats this years new treatment!"

People hope for more hair transplant and that is okay. But I don't hope that they hope it will give them the density like when they were younger. Because the technique is not there too make it as dense as natural hair.

 

[I could hair less]

Nice to read about these new treatments.
Don’t understand them, except hair cloning is interesting idea. It’s not getting to underlying cure so if initially successful will deteriorate over time. For me with all the things I’ve tried it’s growing back one hair at a time.
I’ve always had oily skin so probably oily scalp for whatever reason. I did notice when cutting sebum my hair stabilized & began to improve. Adult acne essentially non-existant. Pores in T-zone smaller, skin smoother.
So excess DHT without a doubt in my case has to be addressed or wasting my time.
So I started taking supplements to attack DHT. Shampoos & scalp exfoliation. Started growing some new hair back. Ofcourse too slow, but at least it’s possible. So this hormone subject has to be addressed until one reaches the point where the DHT doesn’t destroy the hair follicle. Granted this is a complicated subject. Finasteride I’ve never used. I believe Minoxidil reaches a point of diminished returns so I’m phasing that out although I have several variants.
Microneedling shows promise. Phyto RE 30 seems to improve hair structure on gray coarse hair. WNT products dimished results.
Tried a bottle Alpicort nothing for me.
Nizoral nothing also. L'Oréal Clemoxidyne I like. Copper peptides nothing. I’m trying some human hair stem cell topical so I’ll test that. Onion juice nothing. Laser therapy diminished results. PRP little to no results.
I’m always adjusting different amino acids per recommendation of successful regrowth protocols.
In my case I think my DHT is too strong for my fine hair & just zaps the hair follicle like Roundup weed killer. Dimishing DHT, keeping scalp clean, stimulation of scalp, supplements, few topicals have made a difference. Slow & steady difference.
No breakthrough yet, but improvement.
I read these forums for tips, line of inquiry, success stories. So don’t give up, there’s hope

what does L'Oréal Clemoxidyne do??

I have oily skin in the areas I have used to have hair, very frustrating, any suggestions to get rid of that excess sebrum?

 

[H]

so I found someone on reddit who is currently getting a treatment under the conditional approvement regulations and he says we foreigners can forget about it for that time so tsuji will most likely never happen for any of us before 2028 or some sh*t
That does kinda hurt

"The Japanese government does not give out conditional-approval medicine, or any medicine---doctors and facilities do that.

>conditional limited time approval restricts the recipient of the regenerative medicine product to certain medical institutions with certain specialized doctors and facilities.

First you have to find the specialized doctor and facility that is handling conditional-approval medicine (this will have to done in Japanese). This is normally handled by referral(s) from your friendly neighborhood clinic or GP physician who almost always send you to a university hospital that does all the record keeping for running the test of a conditional-approval medicine.

That university hospital, specialized facility or doctor can ONLY give one month's worth of a conditional-approval medicine. **You must return every month for a check-up that is recorded as part of the process of clearing a conditional-approval medicine for open/regular use. Therefore, you will have to be a resident of Japan to be available for the monthly check-up*** and new refill of your conditional-approval prescription.

Source: I am currently on such a conditional-approval medication, and it's sort of a pain in the butt even though I am Japanese-speaking resident with medical school connections and Japanese health insurance coverage with all the supplemental insurance options.

If you want to know whether or not foreigners will be able to get a certain procedure under this conditional approval

Unless you are Jeff Bezos flying into Japan every month on his private jet with his team of specialized medical interpreters to get his regenerative stem-cell hair follicle regeneration treatments, a non-Japanese speaking, foreigner without proper visa status• or Japanese health insurance is not going to get a certain procedure under this conditional approval process.

• Japan does have a special Medical Stay Visa for medical treatments but that requires a "Certificate from a medical institution about the planned medical services and references from a Japanese guarantor" as well as full documentation showing the foreign patient's financial situation (e.g., a bank statements) to completely cover the patient's stay financially---Think $50,000 USD at the very minimum."

Well that definately hurts

 

[Dhldan]

Tsuji supposed to be out 2020. Delay of 1 year.
Sure that makes 2025.

2025 at best till it’s available to the majority of us who aren’t jp citizens.

 

[HairSuit]

Real seti helps me hugely, stops shedding 99% + decent regrowth. If fevi is a bit better, and no sides, it will be a game changer for hairloss community. I believe it might even be a cure for norwoods 1-3.

@yayapapaya, buddy, if I’m not mistaken, I think you are the only one that responded positively to Seti. A bunch of us took it orally at the recommended dose, spent a shot ton of money, and didn’t even maintain. That’s all I was hoping for. I know you are topical, but oral, at the recommended dose, should have worked.

 

[yayapapaya]

@yayapapaya, buddy, if I’m not mistaken, I think you are the only one that responded positively to Seti. A bunch of us took it orally at the recommended dose, spent a shot ton of money, and didn’t even maintain. That’s all I was hoping for. I know you are topical, but oral, at the recommended dose, should have worked.

Not the only 1. There was a thread in here with seti results from 1 guy.