Opinions on having a son knowing he will be bald?

[Guest]

Of course I'm going to have kids, but not for a few more years. Let's say that I have a kid in 5-7 years, he won't start balding till he's at least 18. Hair cloning will most definitely be here in 25 years, and so will better pills and topicals. Existing stuff like finasteride and dutasteride and minoxidil are great if started early enough, but the best is yet to come. Not having a kid because you're afraid they might go through the same thing you are/did is a bit ridiculous, in my opinion.

And also you won't know whether you're even going to have any sons. You may have all girls.

 

[Aplunk1]

Hair cloning will most definitely be here in 25 years, and so will better pills and topicals.

Let's hope...

 

[Guest]

Hair cloning will most definitely be here in 25 years, and so will better pills and topicals.

Let's hope...

Even the stuff we have now is pretty good, Aplunk.

dutasteride is a great drug and there is no doubt in my mind that if hair cloning isn't here in 25 years(which I would bet a TON of money on it being here by then), other good drugs and topicals will be(anti-fibrotic topicals like docj077 has discussed).

There are a lot of people on here who refuse to even give finasteride or dutasteride a chance because of ridiculous stuff that they've heard, a lot of it propagated by natural competitors like Avacor and Procede. That's why they advertise "no sexual sides" in their commercials.

If someone hasn't given finasteride or dutasteride a try and they have the money to, they won't get much sympathy from me if they whine about their hair loss. Obviously if they get awful sides from it then they should stop, because hair isn't worth those, at least to me, but some people on here won't even give it a try and then they whine about losing hair while they're only on minoxidil and nizoral. Fincar is $80 a year from reputable online pharmacies. I feel like most people on here can afford $80 a year. That's how much minoxidil costs per year , at least, and finasteride is much more valuable than minoxidil in terms of long-term results.

 

[roki]

there is always the chance that your son will come out ugly it happens you know
so what will you do then ?

 

[UK1]

I certainly wont be letting male pattern baldness ruin my future family plans.. maybe if I was blind or had down syndrome.. but not hairloss.. I have had an unbelievable life despite begining to bald in my mid 20's, things still aren't too bad but even if thdey were I'd have had a good run for my money. Only a small percentage of us would say that we wished we'd never been born because of hairloss.. :?

 

[s.a.f]

Unfortunatly its mainly the idiots and wasters that are breeding. You need a licence to own a TV but anybody with no brains/job can reproduce. The fact is that the earths population will be in real trouble in 30/40 yrs time. (rant over)

you're getting very close to the mark, saf.

a licence to have a child might sound a bit too orwellian at the moment but big brother is already with us (on the telly, anyway).

we cannot go on breeding at this rate. when will these idiots realise.

sooner or later, a curb on breeding is inevitable.

I work with a guy in his early 20's and he's already got 4 kids. He has no education and spends most of his wages on dope, he gets free housing from the council and lots of child benifits (as did his parents). Oh and he's also just split up with his girlfriend (the mother). People say the kids are like feral children, no doubt thet'll all grow up to follow his example.

Jayman, are'nt you the least bit worried about what taking hormone suppresing drugs could do to you? The longterm effects of dutasteride/finasteride are still not completly known. Anything could start to happen to us users in 10yrs time. Yes the meds are helping people but you seem to view them as the answer to all our problems. What effects could they be having on our prostates?

 

[Skaff]

This is one of the most fucked up threads ever created...you guys are f*****g pathetic

 

[Guest]

Jayman, are'nt you the least bit worried about what taking hormone suppresing drugs could do to you? The longterm effects of dutasteride/finasteride are still not completly known. Anything could start to happen to us users in 10yrs time. Yes the meds are helping people but you seem to view them as the answer to all our problems. What effects could they be having on our prostates?

Lowering the risk of prostate cancer, for one. Ask Bryan and he will tell you why. I don't think anything bad will happen at all.

They aren't the answer to all of our problems but they are pretty damned close, especially dutasteride for maintenance.

I'm not concerned about health effects and stand by my comments that someone with access to the meds and money to buy them needs to put up or shut up.

 

[Aplunk1]

Word.

Finasteride and Dutasteride certainly lower the risk of prostate cancer. How can that be bad?

I don't see any indications which lead us to believe finasteride/dutasteride will be harmful 5, 10, 20, 50 years later.

 

[sphlanx2006]

Although I feel sorry that I will probably pass male pattern baldness to my son, I would never consider not having a child just because of this. As jayman said I am preety damn sure there will be much better solutions to male pattern baldness in 25 years, and i dont even know if my son will be bothered by his hair loss. I know a lot of people that are not.

To me there are much more serious worries about having child, as it could come out with down syndrom or autism. It could become a drug addict if not raised correctly. What if it develops cancer at childhood? I have seen this happen and its bad. REALLY bad.

I would certainly kick my father ***, if he did not do me

 

[s.a.f]

I read a post on another forum that said dutasteride/finasteride users who do get prostate cancer often miss the warning signs because of the meds effects and then dont respond to treatment well. Anyone else heard about this?

Ha ha yet again another topic goes way off track!

 

[recboi]

you guys are so ill. you dont want to have kids just coz they could get male pattern baldness? lol. really, go see a doctor.

agree

In this day an age where everyone (including the women) are so shallow, and there are plenty of guys that don't lose their hair, would you want to have a son that's going to never get chicks? I started losing my hair at 16. I never had a freaking chance.

 

[Cassin]

you guys are so ill. you dont want to have kids just coz they could get male pattern baldness? lol. really, go see a doctor.

agree

In this day an age where everyone (including the women) are so shallow, and there are plenty of guys that don't lose their hair, would you want to have a son that's going to never get chicks? I started losing my hair at 16. I never had a freaking chance.

Bull Sh-t.

I started thinning at 15 or 16, I did more than ok. I have never had a problem, not then, not now. And it was noticeable thinning even at 16 or so.

I see countless people with every degree of loss possible with good looking women every day.

Don't blame your lack of success with women on hair loss. If you approach women timidly with lack of confidence because of hair loss, thats your fault. You don't have a chance because you defeat yourself.

And what do you mean "In this day and age"? Did shallowness suddenly appear recently?

Also there is something your all missing, what makes you think your kid will care if he goes bald? Just because you have an issue you assume he will? I have several friends that are balding and I am the only one who gives a sh-t.

 

[recboi]

you guys are so ill. you dont want to have kids just coz they could get male pattern baldness? lol. really, go see a doctor.

agree

In this day an age where everyone (including the women) are so shallow, and there are plenty of guys that don't lose their hair, would you want to have a son that's going to never get chicks? I started losing my hair at 16. I never had a freaking chance.

Bull Sh-t.

I started thinning at 15 or 16, I did more than ok. I have never had a problem, not then, not now. And it was noticeable thinning even at 16 or so.

I see countless people with every degree of loss possible with good looking women every day.

Don't blame your lack of success with women on hair loss. If you approach women timidly with lack of confidence because of hair loss, thats your fault. You don't have a chance because you defeat yourself.

And what do you mean "In this day and age"? Did shallowness suddenly appear recently?

Also there is something your all missing, what makes you think your kid will care if he goes bald? Just because you have an issue you assume he will? I have several friends that are balding and I am the only one who gives a sh-t.

It didn't always be that women would wait around, pass up opportunities to get the "perfect guy". Having hairloss means your not perfect, and many, many women will bypass you because you aren't perfect. Sure, many of them will end up being cat herders, but still, maybe it' sjust my metro area, but there's always someone better looking and richer than you, that's why I and virtually everyone I know cannot date around here (women our age)...

 

[recboi]

you guys are so ill. you dont want to have kids just coz they could get male pattern baldness? lol. really, go see a doctor.

agree

In this day an age where everyone (including the women) are so shallow, and there are plenty of guys that don't lose their hair, would you want to have a son that's going to never get chicks? I started losing my hair at 16. I never had a freaking chance.

Bull Sh-t.

I started thinning at 15 or 16, I did more than ok. I have never had a problem, not then, not now. And it was noticeable thinning even at 16 or so.

I see countless people with every degree of loss possible with good looking women every day.

Don't blame your lack of success with women on hair loss. If you approach women timidly with lack of confidence because of hair loss, thats your fault. You don't have a chance because you defeat yourself.

And what do you mean "In this day and age"? Did shallowness suddenly appear recently?

Also there is something your all missing, what makes you think your kid will care if he goes bald? Just because you have an issue you assume he will? I have several friends that are balding and I am the only one who gives a sh-t.

Ever think that your friends just aren't telling you? I've never told a single person in the real world about my hairloss issues. Only online. I would deny to the death in person that I've ever had hair transplant, and I have a coupon for a free rogaine that I'm too embarrassed to use.

 

[Cassin]

We have all openly discussed countless personal issues and hair loss happens to be one of them, a minor one at that. Why would someone deny hair loss?

Here is what one of my friends told me a month ago...

He got out of the shower and he looked in the mirror and noticed his hair was real thin and in bad shape. (I had noticed awhile ago but I always look for those things.. ) he asked his wife for confirmation and they both agreed he was losing his hair noticeably.......

So later that morning at work I get an email from him...

It was basically something like "Hey whats that stuff you use for your hair?"

I replied with just the basic finasteride and rogaine and he said that was too much trouble. He said when it got worse he would just shave it.

There you go, he went from realization to acceptance to moving past it in about 2 hours.

Not everyone cares. Knowing him I am sure he was much more concerned about setting his fantasy football roster for the weekend and never gave it a second though.

And if your not using a free coupon........thats just dumb. You should mail it to someone on this forum for free so they can benefit. Give it to some college kid. Jayman is in college if I remember right, you should PM him if your going to waste it.

 

[Guest]

recboi. how old are you?

 

[sphlanx2006]

Not everyone cares. Knowing him I am sure he was much more concerned about setting his fantasy football roster for the weekend and never gave it a second though.

That is really important. There are things in your life that "good-looks" wont get you, and that is having simple but nice things to enjoy alone or with company.

And by the way, looks dont count as much as personality. If you are fun you got more chances to score, than a good looking yet boring guy.

On-topic, I will say again that is stupid not to have kids because of male pattern baldness. If i have a kid that is physically and mentally healthy, i wont give a sh*t if he go bald at 17 like me. I know that someone who has this two, has a great chance to have a happy life.

 

[Cassin]

I need to say one more thing...

I know you guys mean well who are against having kids because of this. You don't want to pass on your pain to your children and thats a truly noble thought at this stage in your life.

But you will get past this and so will your children. If male pattern baldness is the worst thing that happens to your kids then they have led a truly gifted life.

You should really think no more on this. Right now you just really need to worry about your own life.

 

[Guest]

you guys are so ill. you dont want to have kids just coz they could get male pattern baldness? lol. really, go see a doctor.

agree

In this day an age where everyone (including the women) are so shallow, and there are plenty of guys that don't lose their hair, would you want to have a son that's going to never get chicks? I started losing my hair at 16. I never had a freaking chance.

Plenty? Like 80% of men have male pattern baldness by the time they die. 40% have it by age 35.

And christ there are medications that work. finasteride and dutasteride work. Maybe too late for some people on here but by the time your kids start to bald, 20 years from now, there WILL be treatments out that stop hair loss permanently.