"over 14 Million Youtube Subs And 0 Tinder Matches"

[shookwun]

I am curious. Are you not into clubs? You are a good looking guy and I have no doubt that you will do pretty good in clubs. However, you do need to be extrovert like Shook is and make approaches which can be intimidating for some people.

It all comes down screening also.

Get better at picking up on non-verbal ques. Solid eye contact, followed by some sort of bodily gesture

How to open a group of friends, and then slowly take her attention away from the group once her friends approve. This was my biggest challenge at first, knowing how to approach a group then divert the attention to the girl who was most responsive, and interested. this all happens within a matter of seconds. ( a lot of the times men talk to the chick who isn't even interested)

Rebound sets - I will walk across a room, lock eyes with certain women. grab there hand in a playful way, and smile. Then I will see them again the following night, and then open them. At this point, i am no stranger, and we playfully get to know each other.


I am not going to sit her and act like my looks are not the main driving factor, they are. However, there is more style, and art that's involved in properly mass approaching, and executing many numbers, and bodily play through out the night. Yesterday was a good night, but I ended up at a smaller venue, which has it's draw backs. Not only do chicks remember you, but they are very responsive in what the same men that approached them are doing. This worked against me when, the same chick I grabbed a number and make out off, caught me making out with another chick by the bathroom half an hour later.


Game = Looks.

Women always ask me, how do I always know what to say. How are you so smooth? Some even playfully hit because they are being seduced in a manner that they are not used to.

It has nothing to do with game, and bullshit you read online. It's all genetic in my opinion. People with the gift of gab, and those with witty striking replies are nothing short of a product of there EQ/IQ

See so many losers on these PUA forums who scramble on what to say, little do they realise there is no such thing as game. There are mechanics involved to picking up, but it's all natural.. and comes out when you feel comfortable and at ease with yourself. Suddenly everything comes into proportion with how you actually feel, and everything works. When you are able to focus on that person, rather then thinking of what to say.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I am curious. Are you not into clubs? You are a good looking guy and I have no doubt that you will do pretty good in clubs. However, you do need to be extrovert like Shook is and make approaches which can be intimidating for some people.

Cant stand clubs - even in my 20s.

You have to pay to get in. Shite music. Overpriced drinks. Cant hear what people are saying because of the music.

Bars are okay if you find the right place.

 

[pjhair]

Cant stand clubs - even in my 20s.

You have to pay to get in. Shite music. Overpriced drinks. Cant hear what people are saying because of the music.

Bars are okay if you find the right place.

When I frequented clubs, it was just to get laid so didn't care about sh*t music. Also, once you become a regular, you befriend the staff so you don't have to pay to get in. I became friends with bartenders, cover girl and security at 3-4 clubs so I never had to pay. Not only that, they also let your friends in for free as well.

But I hear your problem with clubs.. As I am 36 now, I find myself more drawn to bars and lounges.

 

[pjhair]

How to open a group of friends, and then slowly take her attention away from the group once her friends approve. This was my biggest challenge at first, knowing how to approach a group then divert the attention to the girl who was most responsive, and interested. this all happens within a matter of seconds. ( a lot of the times men talk to the chick who isn't even interested)

A very important point. If a women is not interested within a few seconds of you approaching her, it will be very hard for her to be interested merely because you cracked a few jokes or bought her a few drinks. What I used to do is approach a women, spend a few minutes talking to her, if I didn't get warm or flirtatious feelings from her, immediately move on. Too many fishes in the ocean to waste time on a single girl.

 

[shookwun]

A very important point. If a women is not interested within a few seconds of you approaching her, it will be very hard for her to be interested merely because you cracked a few jokes or bought her a few drinks. What I used to do is approach a women, spend a few minutes talking to her, if I didn't get warm or flirtatious feelings from her, immediately move on. Too many fishes in the ocean to waste time on a single girl.

 

[SmoothSailing]

It has nothing to do with game, and bullshit you read online. It's all genetic in my opinion. People with the gift of gab, and those with witty striking replies are nothing short of a product of there EQ/IQ

Yes it's natural, but it's also something that you naturally can do but in reality you might not do. As you say, you need to be "comfortable and at ease with yourself".


For some people, to do this, is a game. Or at least can be viewed as such. For me personally I always knew I could be funny and interesting, because in certain situations I was. I gained a great deal in learning what some might call "game" , but as you better identified as being "comfortable and at ease with yourself".

I think the biggest problem with most of the self-help in this area is the idea that you should pretend to be someone you are not in the hopes that you become this person. That will never happen. You can pretend all day that you are a handsome, intelligent, confident, funny guy but it will produce little results if you are not, everyone knows the act.

The focus, instead, in my opinion, should be on accepting and becoming comfortable with who you really are. Maybe you aren't funny, not very intelligent, average looking with little financial success. This is who you are, people will identify you as such quite quickly. You are better to own it than to pretend you are something else.

For years, seeking help, I read things along the lines of "pretend to be confident and true confidence will come". And yet it never did. I never truly became happy with myself until after I accepted I wasn't a confident person, and never would be. I will always be shy, I will never be the "life of the party". But now I am ok with that, I am ok with myself. Kind of ironically (maybe not haha) this has given me confidence.


When I get rejected I think "well she doesn't like who I truly am". Instead of "well she doesn't like who I have pretended to be". The former encourages looking for someone new, the latter encourages further changing myself from who I truly am.


Anyways I'm drunk

 

[shookwun]

Yes it's natural, but it's also something that you naturally can do but in reality you might not do. As you say, you need to be "comfortable and at ease with yourself".


For some people, to do this, is a game. Or at least can be viewed as such. For me personally I always knew I could be funny and interesting, because in certain situations I was. I gained a great deal in learning what some might call "game" , but as you better identified as being "comfortable and at ease with yourself".

I think the biggest problem with most of the self-help in this area is the idea that you should pretend to be someone you are not in the hopes that you become this person. That will never happen. You can pretend all day that you are a handsome, intelligent, confident, funny guy but it will produce little results if you are not, everyone knows the act.

The focus, instead, in my opinion, should be on accepting and becoming comfortable with who you really are. Maybe you aren't funny, not very intelligent, average looking with little financial success. This is who you are, people will identify you as such quite quickly. You are better to own it than to pretend you are something else.

For years, seeking help, I read things along the lines of "pretend to be confident and true confidence will come". And yet it never did. I never truly became happy with myself until after I accepted I wasn't a confident person, and never would be. I will always be shy, I will never be the "life of the party". But now I am ok with that, I am ok with myself. Kind of ironically (maybe not haha) this has given me confidence.


When I get rejected I think "well she doesn't like who I truly am". Instead of "well she doesn't like who I have pretended to be". The former encourages looking for someone new, the latter encourages further changing myself from who I truly am.


Anyways I'm drunk

 

[JeanLucBB]

Shook honestly deserved a shoutout on the thread of most intelligent posters here even if he doesn't immediately come to mind.

 

[Saurabhaj]

Going to the club as an ugly male is like going to a restaurant without money. If you don't smell bad and wear decent clothes the restaurant owner might give you some scraps if he feels sorry for you, and in the club it's possible to stick your dick inside wasted "scraps" once in a blue moon.

If you're Chad on the other hand going to the club is like going to a restaurant where you know the owner so you get free meals and the best seating.

Chads can impress a girl even on the road,office,railway station,airport,shopping mall,Sports stadium,any where you think of.


Such Chads might be having girl friend already..
If he is having girl friend..wtf will he visit any club?

If some chad is single,is he really a chad?

Don't say dating culture of countries are different.
Everyone tries to have stable gf or wife..

"Chad paradox."

 

[JohnsonDDG]

The impact forum is filled with bald (ing) cuck faces or people scared of losing their privilege. The middle ground seems rare.



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Savage.

I guess I'm the one scared of losing privilege!

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Keep saving for your transplant and you'll age well and be free from all this.

I'm still going to try living bald when I finally hit norwood 4.

If I decide I look awful or if it impacts my life I will get a hair transplant.

I'm reluctant to spend over five thousand dollars on a hair transplant when I know I will need to get another in 5 years time as well.

If you remember I do look decent bald so I may be one of the rare cases who live a good life without hair (if I'm wrong I can just get a hair transplant).

 

[pjhair]

When I was younger like 19 I'd drive around the club first with my friends so people can see the car, us and music on while they queue outside. Then we'd park up, session hard and fast at the flat and get a cab in/walk in. Those were the good old days of carefree youth. I took my hair and everything for granted then, feels surreal but that's what being young is about. Cheap expensive looking clothes and gel

Amen to that. College years were by far the best time of my life. Care free attitude, thick NW1, long and gelled back hair, women approaching you. The only thing to worry about was location of the next party. Heaven.

 

[Endmymisery]

@shookwun got any tips on sealing the deal with a chick from the club? Every time i go I make out, but I can never seal the deal to get them to have sex with me

 

[shookwun]

Good point. Also just waiting to see which ones are looking at you as you walk around / dance floor is also a good indicator even before opening. Some girls will look intensely at you, play with their hair while staring, position themselves closer, grind, smile, grab you etc. They want you to say hi first though and chase so they feel wanted and get more fun out of you exploring them in every way.

Once I remember I didn't interact with one girl as I wanted to chill with my mates and also she was a 6 and not really striking. Eventually she came up and said I was wondering if I know you. Or the time a girl a girl sat next time in a club as I felt a bit drunk, she asked me what's the time.

A girl opening is not as nice but makes no difference ultimately.

Type of guys doing well in clubs / bar have to have an attractive sharp look, full hair and sort of have a slightly 'street vibe' without being an idiotic or dangerous person to them.

That vibe mainly comes through the face, a bad boy attractive look but someone who isn't that deep down. Complemented by clothes, muscle.

That's why you'll never see a bald/beta guy do well here, in fact rarely see guys without good hair in a club.

Bar scene works well too as you get older. There'll be older and younger girls who are sessioning before a night out and easier to talk.

You said you got to know all the staff inside and it all helps create a nice environment for gaming and gets you in free.

When I was younger like 19 I'd drive around the club first with my friends so people can see the car, us and music on while they queue outside. Then we'd park up, session hard and fast at the flat and get a cab in/walk in. Those were the good old days of carefree youth. I took my hair and everything for granted then, feels surreal but that's what being young is about. Cheap expensive looking clothes and gel

Damn, I am doing this now at 26.

At 19, it was all about house parties and getting tanked. I was to insecure for the club scene, and was never confident in my abilities outside of random make outs. Could never hold down a relationship because I was always hiding behind a hat, and a comb over. Didn't realise how much of life I was missing out on until recently. But Like anything, we learn to play with the cards we were dealt, and have fun in a situational manner. Which would include avoiding water activities, having hair spray near by... and always making sure the comb forward was presentable. Stressful, but manageable

This is so relative to how I feel now. Pre drinking at the house, driving down with the mates and then preing outside of the club in an area with free parking. Muzzing to some Hip hop, club music and chugging down the final beers. Hitting the club, having our normal drink ritual before we go game during the night. Laughing at eachother get rejected, and taking wins as we go.


but like you say, it all comes with experience. After a while you get really good at guaging which girls to open by the way they position themselves, and look at you. it gets to the point where you become so confident in your abilities, that you approach knowing you will have her if you want.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Damn, I am doing this now at 26.

At 19, it was all about house parties and getting tanked. I was to insecure for the club scene, and was never confident in my abilities outside of random make outs. Could never hold down a relationship because I was always hiding behind a hat, and a comb over. Didn't realise how much of life I was missing out on until recently. But Like anything, we learn to play with the cards we were dealt, and have fun in a situational manner. Which would include avoiding water activities, having hair spray near by... and always making sure the comb forward was presentable. Stressful, but manageable

This is so relative to how I feel now. Pre drinking at the house, driving down with the mates and then preing outside of the club in an area with free parking. Muzzing to some Hip hop, club music and chugging down the final beers. Hitting the club, having our normal drink ritual before we go game during the night. Laughing at eachother get rejected, and taking wins as we go.


but like you say, it all comes with experience. After a while you get really good at guaging which girls to open by the way they position themselves, and look at you. it gets to the point where you become so confident in your abilities, that you approach knowing you will have her if you want.

Clubs are sh*t unless you're a hot girl or on ecstasy, in my opinion. So happy I've now reached an age where most of my mates agree with this.

I went the opposite direction than you. 18 - 23 it was all about clubs, now it's mostly bars, pubs, and people's houses. My preference is almost always someone's house. Although almost all my game is focused around tinder, a night out for me is mostly about the laugh and the buzz.

 

[Susanoo]

Just to comment on the thread title, if anyone thinks Fousey is serious then I am here to diagnose you with autism.

Yes he's bald and I'm not saying he's a slayer but that statement is meant to be funny not serious. Just a statement to use in order to be relatable so that when the average person stumbles upon his IG, they see it and think "haha funny guy" and possibly scroll through his posts and maybe give him follow. Also gives the impression that he isn't full of himself. But just a statement to market towards the audience/crowd he is after.

I also agree that game is largely based upon looks but as I've said before, most people in society are too clueless when it comes to socializing with woman. Truth is for the majority of people they're not getting laid either way, good looking or not. I know tons of guys that are 7 and 8/10 and have had minimal lays or managed to get 1 GF who they proceeded to cling to, until the girl couldn't deal with the beta male behavior anymore and left.

You don't have to be socially adept, just decent, but so many are in the bottom percentile. Once you realize the playing field and understand that its at SUCH a low level, man it's hard for me to even fathom. Anyways, one of my good friends is easily 9/10, any chick would have him. Same guy has still only slept with chicks we all know from college or a social circle. That feel when Chad doesn't understand he can just walk up to any chick and win her over. Gotta get out of your own way.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Just to comment on the thread title, if anyone thinks Fousey is serious then I am here to diagnose you with autism.

Yes he's bald and I'm not saying he's a slayer but that statement is meant to be funny not serious. Just a statement to use in order to be relatable so that when the average person stumbles upon his IG, they see it and think "haha funny guy" and possibly scroll through his posts and maybe give him follow. Also gives the impression that he isn't full of himself. But just a statement to market towards the audience/crowd he is after.

I also agree that game is largely based upon looks but as I've said before, most people in society are too clueless when it comes to socializing with woman. Truth is for the majority of people they're not getting laid either way, good looking or not. I know tons of guys that are 7 and 8/10 and have had minimal lays or managed to get 1 GF who they proceeded to cling to, until the girl couldn't deal with the beta male behavior anymore and left.

You don't have to be socially adept, just decent, but so many are in the bottom percentile. Once you realize the playing field and understand that its at SUCH a low level, man it's hard for me to even fathom. Anyways, one of my good friends is easily 9/10, any chick would have him. Same guy has still only slept with chicks we all know from college or a social circle. That feel when Chad doesn't understand he can just walk up to any chick and win her over. Gotta get out of your own way.

Accurate/10.

 

[doubleindemnity]

Just to comment on the thread title, if anyone thinks Fousey is serious then I am here to diagnose you with autism.

Yes he's bald and I'm not saying he's a slayer but that statement is meant to be funny not serious. Just a statement to use in order to be relatable so that when the average person stumbles upon his IG, they see it and think "haha funny guy" and possibly scroll through his posts and maybe give him follow. Also gives the impression that he isn't full of himself. But just a statement to market towards the audience/crowd he is after.

I also agree that game is largely based upon looks but as I've said before, most people in society are too clueless when it comes to socializing with woman. Truth is for the majority of people they're not getting laid either way, good looking or not. I know tons of guys that are 7 and 8/10 and have had minimal lays or managed to get 1 GF who they proceeded to cling to, until the girl couldn't deal with the beta male behavior anymore and left.

You don't have to be socially adept, just decent, but so many are in the bottom percentile. Once you realize the playing field and understand that its at SUCH a low level, man it's hard for me to even fathom. Anyways, one of my good friends is easily 9/10, any chick would have him. Same guy has still only slept with chicks we all know from college or a social circle. That feel when Chad doesn't understand he can just walk up to any chick and win her over. Gotta get out of your own way.

Fousey was being facetious. But it's only a relevant joke because it's based on the truth. Game does not work for a NW6 and never will. Game is a tool to convert a person who finds you attractive into whatever kind of relationship you would want with them. Since nobody will find a NW6 attractive, game does not apply for them. So yes, the bar is very low, but a NW6 is a deal breaker. The bar really is low and I'm not disagreeing with you; most men who are doing average in dating are nothing special. But they're usually NW1 or NW2. A NW6 with maximized game will still fail for the reason that I described above.

So my old post - that is getting so many dislikes - still stands. I only feel that way because it's the experience that I've had. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't had that yet if you're a NW2 or NW3 or NW4. There's a special transition that you go through in the eyes of society when you are considered bald. NW3 or NW4 can still pass as somebody who has a bad head of hair, but when you cross NW5, you're considered bald and that's when you see the truth.