Paul Rudd Vs Stephen Miller: It's The Hair

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I do not like stephen miller because I am an immigrant to US. Even on this forum, I have seen such blatant racism which is so hideous. I had to take a "white" username so that I can separate myself from the racism at this site. Obviously, stephen miller would be popular at HairLossTalk.com. His ideology that immigrants like me (btw i am legal and have a master's degree and a well paying job) are inferior because of the country of our origin is deeply ingrained in the psyche of white americans.
 

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I do not like stephen miller because I am an immigrant to US. Even on this forum, I have seen such blatant racism which is so hideous. I had to take a "white" username so that I can separate myself from the racism at this site. Obviously, stephen miller would be popular at HairLossTalk.com. His ideology that immigrants like me (btw i am legal and have a master's degree and a well paying job) are inferior because of the country of our origin is deeply ingrained in the psyche of white americans.

are you a legal or illegal immigrant..... how did you come here?
 

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Hair guy good, bald guy bad. Dhurr.
 

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You better like immigrants or you’ll go bald? I don’t get it
Actually I believe the other way is true - if you are bald, you become a bitter, full of hate mysanthrop, who just hate everybody. Maybe this is why bad persons are always portraited as bald
 

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I do not like stephen miller because I am an immigrant to US. Even on this forum, I have seen such blatant racism which is so hideous. I had to take a "white" username so that I can separate myself from the racism at this site. Obviously, stephen miller would be popular at HairLossTalk.com. His ideology that immigrants like me (btw i am legal and have a master's degree and a well paying job) are inferior because of the country of our origin is deeply ingrained in the psyche of white americans.
I disagree. It's only. Illegal immigration that pisses off .Americans. We have our own homeless to feed andthst need medical care
 

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I disagree. It's only. Illegal immigration that pisses off .Americans. We have our own homeless to feed andthst need medical care

Implying that a homeless person might receive help under an America that seemingly hates the idea of universal healthcare, it is basic social attitudes that prevent such progress not some illegal immigrant.
 

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That post was not about politics, it was basically saying being a bad person causes hairloss. Right? Because there are no fullheads who harbor hatred in their hearts... ever, right? f***.
 

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Implying that a homeless person might receive help under an America that seemingly hates the idea of universal healthcare, it is basic social attitudes that prevent such progress not some illegal immigrant.

most americans DONT hate the idea of universal healthcare. What we dont like is the idea that a system we all pay into would simply be exploited by illegals coming here to plop out kids they can put on the system. We have no real border control here and it stinks that the only countries we tend to accept massive amount of "refugees(?)" from are not countries we can go to in return, and then these people look to simply vote in the same type of person who they fled..... whoever will promise hand outs of free sh*t. Unless we got immigration tightly under control, more socialized programs will never be possible, but to many people are not willing to compromise. They want one thing but arent willing to give up on another.
 

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Implying that a homeless person might receive help under an America that seemingly hates the idea of universal healthcare, it is basic social attitudes that prevent such progress not some illegal immigrant.
Again I disagree. I worked in a hospital for 36 years . Just walk in and get treated. No one was evre denied treatment .
 

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most americans DONT hate the idea of universal healthcare. What we dont like is the idea that a system we all pay into would simply be exploited by illegals coming here to plop out kids they can put on the system. We have no real border control here and it stinks that the only countries we tend to accept massive amount of "refugees(?)" from are not countries we can go to in return, and then these people look to simply vote in the same type of person who they fled..... whoever will promise hand outs of free sh*t. Unless we got immigration tightly under control, more socialized programs will never be possible, but to many people are not willing to compromise. They want one thing but arent willing to give up on another.

Have news for you mate, you currently all pay into a system which should if your mainstream media is believed cost tax payers less yet under your privatised model the cost to the public purse is a whopping 17.9% of GDP. By comparison universal models employed by the EU-15 costs just on average 9.7%. It's honestly both laughable and sad that yanks will try to defend such a broken system because muh immigrants, socialism, etc.
 

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Have news for you mate, you currently all pay into a system which should if your mainstream media is believed cost tax payers less yet under your privatised model the cost to the public purse is a whopping 17.9% of GDP. By comparison universal models employed by the EU-15 costs just on average 9.7%. It's honestly both laughable and sad that yanks will try to defend such a broken system because muh immigrants, socialism, etc.

you do understand the issues we have here that those countries dont correct?

We still suffer the highest rates of obesity and poor health. So unless we tell fat people, smokers, drinkers, drug users, and all around lazy pieces of sh*t you dont get coverage our hit will be insanely huge if we ever just decided to change instantly.

Our population compared to almost all those countries.... yeah its quite a difference. the entire EU, yes all

Our economy still hasn't fully bounced back.

A lot of those countries are running out of money to supply their healthcare system and with them now taking in the migrants they are its getting worse. Why do you think most European countries pay 50% of their wages into taxes.

You do realize our health care system is one of the reasons we also still have the leading rate of treatments and discoveries through the world? If only our FDA would back off a bit. Look up the UK and their declining health care system with cancer treatments and survival rates compared to ours for the last decade.

We still have a massive problem with people illegally entering our country and abusing our health care. This costs our country billions because they do as the other guy said. They show up in a hospital because they cant be turned away and then disappear. This cost then gets spread to us. How would universal healthcare stop this? Oh unless we stopped illegal immigration, which I said was a great trade but the other half doesnt want. Theyd rather just take their ball and go home.

Illegal immigration is one of MANY points why we cant go socialized health care here. Again read my comments, not against it, but it needs to be met with compromise...... People love comparing us to places like the netherlands where they have.... dunno 17 million people, the US has 350million.... the entire EU 28 right now have about 500 million. So the US alone equals almost the entire EU. All the health care systems in those countries differ slightly so your using an average wont work because the one where people may pay less cross out the ones where people pay more.
Also per capita of spending the US is not THAT much more than a country like sweden. per capita would be a much better comparison than breaking the averages of 15-28 countries and putting it against the one big fat US. While on paper people might have you convinced it will work, Im here and telling you it wont. It would take a LOT of changes other people arent willing to make.

So if we could put in health standards every person needs to meet to be eligible, cut back on immigration, cut back on multi child single parent house holds where a lot of assistance is used, and make sure every person is paying in then it might have a chance. Other than that, I have decent health care and really am not looking to pay more of my check away so other people are taken care of. Would I like to see it happen here, sure, but the asshats in this country dont really deserve it. I am a single male with no kids who makes a good living through hard work.... I am ripe for the tax raping so Im looking out for me.

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Oh and tort reform for malpractice would need a serious overhaul here for it to work. Our malpractice issues are one of the reasons our healthcare is so expensive. I believe I read a few years ago a study about the UK and their firm regulations on how much you can actually sue for malpractice there. We pretty much have no limits if enough hardship can be proven. If our laws got changed for that, then hospitals and doctors (yes here lots of state require doctors to have their own malpractice insurance) then prices might also drop.
 
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Again I disagree. I worked in a hospital for 36 years . Just walk in and get treated. No one was evre denied treatment .

That’s because of EMTALA. It’s primary and preventative care where they are denied care. So instead of treating diabetes at the beginning when it’s nice and cheap we wait until they have renal failure and an MI requiring millions that come right out of the tax payers pocket. Our system is retarded...
 

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Paying $1.2 trillion for defence, that's okay, paying taxes for health care, nooooo
 
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That’s because of EMTALA. It’s primary and preventative care where they are denied care. So instead of treating diabetes at the beginning when it’s nice and cheap we wait until they have renal failure and an MI requiring millions that come right out of the tax payers pocket. Our system is retarded...

is it? thats also a laughable point. Its like our big push on rehabilitation here in the US. Over 50% of ex con go recommit, most do it in under 6 months of release. Let say we waste a ton of money treating an over weight person for their diabetes. Does that mean theyre going to actually follow the orders of the doctor and stop eating garbage, lose the weight and exercise? Or would they more or less give an all amurican selfish response like "well free healthcare yo" and just continue their spiral into death while wasting our money since we over medicate everyone to avoid being sued? Its double edged but at least when the renal failure kicks in we support them for far less time and we didnt support them on their journey there.

Sorry either system is going to be "retarded" unless we can legitimately look at someone and go "you need to lose weight, stop smoking, exercise, cut back on junk food, etc etc or you get NO health care" it just wont work. But the other half of our "retarded" system says thats discriminatory. This country doesnt deserve it yet.

Paying $1.2 trillion for defence, that's okay, paying taxes for health care, nooooo

scary russia, china and north korea..... yet dont spend money on defense? also you understand how many people our military supplies health care for right? very good health care.

but I ask, if you had, as an American the choice to receive universal healthcare but we close our borders up would YOU take that trade?
 
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you do understand the issues we have here that those countries dont correct?

We still suffer the highest rates of obesity and poor health. So unless we tell fat people, smokers, drinkers, drug users, and all around lazy pieces of sh*t you dont get coverage our hit will be insanely huge if we ever just decided to change instantly.

Our population compared to almost all those countries.... yeah its quite a difference. the entire EU, yes all

Our economy still hasn't fully bounced back.

A lot of those countries are running out of money to supply their healthcare system and with them now taking in the migrants they are its getting worse. Why do you think most European countries pay 50% of their wages into taxes.

You do realize our health care system is one of the reasons we also still have the leading rate of treatments and discoveries through the world? If only our FDA would back off a bit. Look up the UK and their declining health care system with cancer treatments and survival rates compared to ours for the last decade.

We still have a massive problem with people illegally entering our country and abusing our health care. This costs our country billions because they do as the other guy said. They show up in a hospital because they cant be turned away and then disappear. This cost then gets spread to us. How would universal healthcare stop this? Oh unless we stopped illegal immigration, which I said was a great trade but the other half doesnt want. Theyd rather just take their ball and go home.

Illegal immigration is one of MANY points why we cant go socialized health care here. Again read my comments, not against it, but it needs to be met with compromise...... People love comparing us to places like the netherlands where they have.... dunno 17 million people, the US has 350million.... the entire EU 28 right now have about 500 million. So the US alone equals almost the entire EU. All the health care systems in those countries differ slightly so your using and average wont work because the one where people may pay less cross out the ones where people pay more.
Also per capita of spending the US is not THAT much more than a country like sweden. per capita would be a much better comparison than breaking the averages of 15-28 countries and putting it against the one big fat US. While on paper people might have you convinced it will work, Im here and telling you it wont. It would take a LOT of changes other people arent willing to make.

So if we could put in health standards every person needs to meet to be eligible, cut back on immigration, cut back on multi child single parent house holds where a lot of assistance is used, and make sure every person is paying in then it might have a chance. Other than that, I have decent health care and really am not looking to pay more of my check away so other people are taken care of. Would I like to see it happen here, sure, but the asshats in this country dont really deserve it. I am a single male with no kids who makes a good living through hard work.... I am ripe for the tax raping so Im looking out for me.

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Oh and tort reform for malpractice would need a serious overhaul here for it to work. Our malpractice issues are one of the reasons our healthcare is so expensive. I believe I read a few years ago a study about the UK and their firm regulations on how much you can actually sue for malpractice there. We pretty much have no limits if enough hardship can be proven. If our laws got changed for that, then hospitals and doctors (yes here lots of state require doctors to have their own malpractice insurance) then prices might also drop.

Sorry not buying any of this, just your run of the mill standard looney right wing propaganda. The idea that the US is somehow unique is such a load of bollocks, of course they could implement a universal model like every other normal country in the world. The NHS has been functioning perfectly fine for the past 70 years providing quality care, yes it is being attacked by the Tories campaign of austerity but it nonetheless is significantly more efficient and cost effective to have universal healthcare than the absolute failure of the US model.
 
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