Phoney Incels Who Just Think They Are Ugly

[JohnsonDDG]

1) A couple years ago I was having a great dinner date with this woman, it was at a restaurant and when she came in late I was sitting down, the dinner part of the date lasted two or three hours.

During the date, when things are going well, she randomly exclaimed "you're taller than me right !?!?!"

Obviously the date was going ok, she was frustrated by being single, and she didn't want to have to discard me if I turned out to not be tall enough.

I am 1 or 2 inches taller than her. Not tall enough. First date was 4 or 5 hours (half dinner, half drinks) of laughing and sharing life stories and dreams and there was no second date.

This was a woman who explicitly wrote on her profile that looks and professional/financial success have nothing to do with romantic attraction. I asked her what she meant and she said that intelligence and ethics are what matters most to her, caring about the world around oneself. When I looked her up on facebook recently, her profile pic or maybe her background pic was of a large diamond. I guess she's engaged to a rich man.

2) A friend of mine, she says that she doesn't care if men are tall or short. In fairness she's been with both tall and short men, 5'6, 5'9, 6'1, etc. She says that to her women friends too.

When she was with the 6'1 guy, her female friends would criticize her in the following way "why would you take a tall guy, you don't need him".

lol.

Do you feel your dating failures are all to do with your face and general appearance or do you think its other factors?

 

[shookwun]

Do you feel your dating failures are all to do with your face and general appearance or do you think its other factors?

I genuinely think it might be physical related, and possibly along the lines of afro not wanting to settle for less. Which is understandable, as he's quite educated, and should shoot for the best.

David's best bet is to get good at bar game, depending on the scene there are so much chicks to choose from. Here in Toronto, you are almost guanrateed to get laid on a fri, sat if all else works in your favour.


clubs, not so much. Once you hit 30, it's over. Could still run the whole age subtract three principles, which a lot of people tend to do as they get older. it's as though there prevalent age is always said number subtract whatever they feel is right.

Women are the worst when it comes to this. If they say they are 26, they are usually 2-3 years older then they actually are.

I notice after 25 people start to do this.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Do you feel your dating failures are all to do with your face and general appearance or do you think its other factors?

All of the above.

The first woman was clearly enthusiastic about me based on the fact that she spent several hours with me. In that case I think the failure was appearance (height) related. She was 5'9, she probably wants a man who is 6'3+. The fact that she says that she doesn't care about looks means that it's probably very important to her.

There's no dating failure with the second woman. I don't know if that was miscommunicated. We're friends and always have been. I was also after another woman when we met.

But my most significant failing is a lack of strong masculine features, either height or wide bones or big muscles or a strong jaw. That's the most important thing past age 25. You yourself have an outstanding masculine frame (shoulders, chest, etc) and I bet that you have a sexy voice too. Do you have strong hands and a firm handshake?

 

[JohnsonDDG]

All of the above.

The first woman was clearly enthusiastic about me based on the fact that she spent several hours with me. In that case I think the failure was appearance (height) related. She was 5'9, she probably wants a man who is 6'3+. The fact that she says that she doesn't care about looks means that it's probably very important to her.

There's no dating failure with the second woman. I don't know if that was miscommunicated. We're friends and always have been. I was also after another woman when we met.

But my most significant failing is a lack of strong masculine features, either height or wide bones or big muscles or a strong jaw. That's the most important thing past age 25. You yourself have an outstanding masculine frame (shoulders, chest, etc) and I bet that you have a sexy voice too. Do you have strong hands and a firm handshake?

I meant dating failures in a general sense - as in not having penetrative sex by your 30s.

Its a serious problem and quite shocking that its gone on so long.

I bet if most people knew that you hadn't had sex they would be damn surprised.

I know this line of questioning is overly direct but I think this problem needs to be fixed.

 

[shookwun]

biggest mistake afro man is making is dating exclusively through online, which limits his potential by many thresholds. He realistically should be approaching women in real life if he plans to ever be with someone of substance.


A lot of women don't go to clubs, and bars
A lot of women dont use tinder, POF, bumble and any other online sh*t


A large portion of women are only accessed through social circles, outings and day-to-day-activity.

THis is what cracks me up about most you guys, which leads me to leave most of you have ZERO life experience aside from swiping your chetto fingers right on every pixel. I didn't realise this until I moved back to my home city where the population is over eight million. If you seriously think most women use tinder, then you are out to lunch, and discredited moving forward. I was surprised at how little of my social circle, which is compromised of many people actually use it. Homos all use it, I have a few dyke, and gay buddies. Most my incel buddies use it, but the most surprising part is the biggest slayers out of my friends dont use it. however they have used it, and there results were mediocre at best. In person, they absolutely wipe the floor clean!

Please @Afro_Vacancy, listen to me and take what I say to heart. You are wasting your time trying to find a women online. Work your way up the totem, and approach women in real life. It's beyond easy, once you get the hang of it. Day game is real, don't believe the lies.

 

[Susanoo]

trying to meet woman online = cannot approach IRL.

I don't really no any guys that do strictly online, or even tinder-only. Either there good looking and its an app that adds icing to the cake as they aren't in cope status, or it's the opposite... imagine foreveralone guy that has zero social status or friends that they can go out with. Don't have to hit clubs or bars, women there will likely be superficial or into strictly looks anyways. Go to places you enjoy, do your thing, and approach attractive woman when you see here; ; libraries, art center, beach, theatre, target, on your walk/bike to work.

 

[blackg]

They need a purpose (fight racism/sexism/islamophobia/people being mean everywhere), they need rituals (daily Trump-bashing, constant outrage over something someone said), they need explanations and excuses (it's because muh racism and white privilege! I can't find a boyfriend because the patriarchy!)

They need explanations and an observance to a set of beliefs that match their world view, as do you now with your born again Christianity.
You’re both two sides of the same coin and that coin is called "slavery."

You're all slaves to the pupet master.

 

[blackg]

That's world breaker hulk, the strongest form of hulk. So strong that he nearly sank the east coast and destroyed half of Manhattan with a single footstep.

For more details

Nothing will sink Manhattan!

 

[blackg]

I actually had a women at the club verify my height before proceeding any further.

We were talking as the night progressed, and she kept mentioning height and how she likes to date tall guys. Considering she also wears high heels, it kept being brought up. It got to the point where I told her to take my number, and replied 'finally, iv'e been waiting just for that. However, I prefer a guy taking down my number'. We continued talking then out of no where she said I don't believe you are 5'10. I stood up, chin strong enough to balance a hundred bill off of, and stood my ground. 'like I said, dreams come true' She then chuckingly replied, 'you really are a man of words, and know what to say. how?'

As soon as my height was verified, she literally wrapped her hands around my cannon ball delts, and I took her full force and we made out.



This was the first experience I had where height was the deciding factor. I wont lie though, my buddy is 6'3 and when he walks behind me I notice how many chicks are checking him out. While he tells me how many girls I don't notice are checking me out. Being under 5'10 in a club is going to leave you invisible to most women. Theres no shock factor, especially when you are crammed like sardines. Height halos your presence so highly.

I'm starting to believe your stories now.

 

[blackg]

biggest mistake afro man is making is dating exclusively through online, which limits his potential by many thresholds. He realistically should be approaching women in real life if he plans to ever be with someone of substance.


A lot of women don't go to clubs, and bars
A lot of women dont use tinder, POF, bumble and any other online sh*t


A large portion of women are only accessed through social circles, outings and day-to-day-activity.

THis is what cracks me up about most you guys, which leads me to leave most of you have ZERO life experience aside from swiping your chetto fingers right on every pixel. I didn't realise this until I moved back to my home city where the population is over eight million. If you seriously think most women use tinder, then you are out to lunch, and discredited moving forward. I was surprised at how little of my social circle, which is compromised of many people actually use it. Homos all use it, I have a few dyke, and gay buddies. Most my incel buddies use it, but the most surprising part is the biggest slayers out of my friends dont use it. however they have used it, and there results were mediocre at best. In person, they absolutely wipe the floor clean!

Please @Afro_Vacancy, listen to me and take what I say to heart. You are wasting your time trying to find a women online. Work your way up the totem, and approach women in real life. It's beyond easy, once you get the hang of it. Day game is real, don't believe the lies.

From a guy with a lot of experience having girls approach me in bars and clubs, I can concur with what you are saying.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

biggest mistake afro man is making is dating exclusively through online, which limits his potential by many thresholds. He realistically should be approaching women in real life if he plans to ever be with someone of substance.


A lot of women don't go to clubs, and bars
A lot of women dont use tinder, POF, bumble and any other online sh*t


A large portion of women are only accessed through social circles, outings and day-to-day-activity.

THis is what cracks me up about most you guys, which leads me to leave most of you have ZERO life experience aside from swiping your chetto fingers right on every pixel. I didn't realise this until I moved back to my home city where the population is over eight million. If you seriously think most women use tinder, then you are out to lunch, and discredited moving forward. I was surprised at how little of my social circle, which is compromised of many people actually use it. Homos all use it, I have a few dyke, and gay buddies. Most my incel buddies use it, but the most surprising part is the biggest slayers out of my friends dont use it. however they have used it, and there results were mediocre at best. In person, they absolutely wipe the floor clean!

Please @Afro_Vacancy, listen to me and take what I say to heart. You are wasting your time trying to find a women online. Work your way up the totem, and approach women in real life. It's beyond easy, once you get the hang of it. Day game is real, don't believe the lies.

It's hard to build a social circle when you have a difficult career in a male-dominated field, where you move every few years, etc. And in all due respect the online dating thing works for a lot of people. My best friend met his current wife on OkCupid many years ago. The couple I hung out with last week met on OkCupid. And so on.

Meeting women in real life doesn't necessarily work great. Here's a list:

- I've done dozens of meet ups. I made one (one!) female acquaintance, she's like 10-15 years older than me. We're good friends but I'm not going to date a barren 46 year old.
We met at a movie meet up, afterwards we went out to discuss the movie. One guy was bloviating about this and that, what she apparently liked about me was that I said "what do you guys think?" to spread the conversation.
I go to meet ups and it's almost always women aged 45+.

- I was recently picked up on the plane by a 55 year old Jewish woman. LOL.

- I take cooking classes for fun, I've been to dozens, I'm a sociable guy there. One time a lesbian couple wanted to fix me up with their single hetero female friend. Isn't that nice? They asked if it was ok that she had a 25 year-old son. Are you noticing a pattern?

- At my current work there is one single guy woman in my age range, one ! I think that I make her skin crawl however. All of the women in relationships are fine with me lol. In fairness that woman seems to hate most people and keeps to herself. It's too bad, she has nice lips and she's into Super Smash Brothers.

- I did ask a woman out from one of my dance classes, she's the only woman I met there who is single and younger than 50. It's not even an official date, I just asked her if she wanted to go out for mulled wine. She didn't respond for two weeks. She then says sorry (unprompted) but she was out of town (she actually was). She asks me if we can go out next weekend, but I tell her that I'll be out of town, and we can try in mid-February when I'm back.

- I did have some nice conversations with one of the women from the yoga studio. It turns out that she's married. Of course she is -- she is very attractive. There are few desirable women left past age 25. After talking to her I got a bit annoyed, I think that her husband is rich or something. She has a part-time job working at the desk at the yoga studio, and she spends a lot of time taking care of 5 cats and getting the highest score in her server in candy crush saga. She likes to knit, she makes really nice sweaters actually. She's hot though. I'll send you her instagram pics if you're curious, I'm curious how a man of experience like yourself might evaluate her.

But I'll try and ask out that lady with the great hands from the hairdresser if I get her next time.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

trying to meet woman online = cannot approach IRL.

I don't really no any guys that do strictly online, or even tinder-only. Either there good looking and its an app that adds icing to the cake as they aren't in cope status, or it's the opposite... imagine foreveralone guy that has zero social status or friends that they can go out with. Don't have to hit clubs or bars, women there will likely be superficial or into strictly looks anyways. Go to places you enjoy, do your thing, and approach attractive woman when you see here; ; libraries, art center, beach, theatre, target, on your walk/bike to work.

I'm like 90% online.

Nearly everyone I meet is from online.

I broke this norm by sleeping with 2 people from work in the last 6 months and it was a mistake because it created drama.

I never meet people in bars because when I'm out I'm just having a good time with mates.

 

[barfacan]

Try rock climbing. Lots of babes are into rock climbing.

 

[blackg]

But I'll try and ask out that lady with the great hands from the hairdresser if I get her next time.

Speaking of the hairdresser.. when are you due for another trim? Before you head to Australia?

 

[blackg]

Try rock climbing. Lots of babes are into rock climbing.

Plus you get to look skywards. Towards their asses as they come down.

 

[blackg]

Sure, when I look at my life, the lives of other Christians I know and the West in general, the first word that comes to my mind is "slavery".

A well-rounded and up to date religion has rules which have been proven to work for hundreds of thousands of years. Those rules are not random, the Ten Commandments are not random, they're very much in accordance with human nature and you break them at your peril, the backlash is always coming, whether it's immediate or ten years later.

As I've said, religion has to be updated, because the environment is always shifting, so Christians were smart and have done away with the "homosexuality is a crime" bits of the Bible for example. Muslims just won't do that and that's why roughly 100% of Muslims in the West believe that homosexuality should be made illegal (again).

Modern Christianity grants you a lot of freedom but also a lot of responsibilities. They always go hand in hand if you want to be a good person (which is not relative) and to live a balanced life. The leftist ideology (or neomarxism) is not only riddled with contradictory sets of belief but many of its concepts simply go against human nature.

To the radical leftists, it's all about how reality should be because the real world scares them. They're afraid of responsibilities, of hard-work, of values, of the notions of good and evil, of competition, so their solution is to group together as a huge "loser cartel" to tell other people that it's mean to compete against each other, that capitalism is unfair, that everything is relative (so they're not losers after all), that there are no hierarchies of values and competence.

Not all worldviews are created equal, and this is the distinction you will not make in your post above. There are rules in life that are partially dictated by our biology and you can't just ignore them and build up your own system of values or try to upset those fundamental rules of life without facing some harsh consequences. So at the end of the day, yes, I am a slave to my biology, I am a slave of the social order, I am a slave to those rules I have to follow if I want my life to become better or at least not turn into hell (which to me certainly is a real place).

I've been there before and there's no way I'm every going back.

Well said, mate.

 

[shookwun]

trying to meet woman online = cannot approach IRL.

I don't really no any guys that do strictly online, or even tinder-only. Either there good looking and its an app that adds icing to the cake as they aren't in cope status, or it's the opposite... imagine foreveralone guy that has zero social status or friends that they can go out with. Don't have to hit clubs or bars, women there will likely be superficial or into strictly looks anyways. Go to places you enjoy, do your thing, and approach attractive woman when you see here; ; libraries, art center, beach, theatre, target, on your walk/bike to work.

yup.

I feel sorry for a lot of decent looking fellas on here who don't even understand there true potential.

I'm like 90% online.

Nearly everyone I meet is from online.

I broke this norm by sleeping with 2 people from work in the last 6 months and it was a mistake because it created drama.

I never meet people in bars because when I'm out I'm just having a good time with mates.

LOL at this cope. 'ye bro, I just go out to clubs, and bars to have a good time hanging around and watching other men, and women meet up.I dont go to hook up with chicks.



I really feel like some of you are out on touch and in denial. I have a lot of friends who fall into this sub category, they tend to go out and walk around. Come back to there mates table, but never get what they actually want.

I suppose next people will say they dont go to house parties, and clubs to potentially meet hot chicks also.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

yup.

I feel sorry for a lot of decent looking fellas on here who don't even understand there true potential.



LOL at this cope. 'ye bro, I just go out to clubs, and bars to have a good time hanging around and watching other men, and women meet up.I dont go to hook up with chicks.



I really feel like some of you are out on touch and in denial. I have a lot of friends who fall into this sub category, they tend to go out and walk around. Come back to there mates table, but never get what they actually want.

I suppose next people will say they dont go to house parties, and clubs to potentially meet hot chicks also.

I go to clubs to drink overpriced liquor and practice sign language.

 

[shookwun]

I go to clubs to drink overpriced liquor and practice sign language.

Max 1-2 drinks purchase while inside.

 

[SteveTabernack]

Max 1-2 drinks purchase while inside.

This. I bring a flask also.

Will ruin your wallet otherwise.