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Planning On Switching From Generic 1mg finasteride To 1.25 Mg (split Up), Will The Efficacy Be The Same?

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I've been on generic 1 mg finasteride for 4 months and have been doing well but I wanted to switch to 1.25 mg to save money. I've read stories that generic proscar isn't as good as generic propecia, is that true? I really don't want to screw up my hair by trying to save money. Does it have something to do with splitting the pills? Should I get name brand proscar instead just to be safe?
 

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Finasteride has a nearly flat response curve, so your hair count barely cares at all if you go from 0.20 mg to 5.00 mg/day.
 

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Finasteride has a nearly flat response curve, so your hair count barely cares at all if you go from 0.20 mg to 5.00 mg/day.
I'm primarily referring to the claims of people losing hair switching from generic propecia to generic proscar
 

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I'm primarily referring to the claims of people losing hair switching from generic propecia to generic proscar

It could happen if the generic manufacturer is lying about the ingredients. In that situation, you're on your own.
 

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If you live in the US, generic propecia is cheap at Costco, 22.00 for a three month supply. If something is working for you, don't change it. Though splitting proscar probably won't have a negative effect, it could. I've read plenty of accounts of people switching from 1 mg to 1.25 mg and end up regretting it. My own experience with the 'flat dose response', i. e., .25 mg being the same as 5 mg, along with the experiences of many others, is complete bullshit. Don't believe it. That extra .25 mg MIGHT have a negative impact. Do you know that it will or not? No, because there is no way pf predicting that and you don't want to find that out the hard way, especially if you are satisfied with the results you are getting now. If you switch and end up losing a bunch of hair, the money that you saved will be the least of your concerns.
 

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If you live in the US, generic propecia is cheap at Costco, 22.00 for a three month supply. If something is working for you, don't change it. Though splitting proscar probably won't have a negative effect, it could. I've read plenty of accounts of people switching from 1 mg to 1.25 mg and end up regretting it. My own experience with the 'flat dose response', i. e., .25 mg being the same as 5 mg, along with the experiences of many others, is complete bullshit. Don't believe it. That extra .25 mg MIGHT have a negative impact. Do you know that it will or not? No, because there is no way pf predicting that and you don't want to find that out the hard way, especially if you are satisfied with the results you are getting now. If you switch and end up losing a bunch of hair, the money that you saved will be the least of your concerns.

It's been measured in multiple studies.

More are on the way this year.
 

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Flat response is just a proven fact, but a generic can cause a shed if its not made properly but in the us its not really a problem.
 

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Do you actually have any experience with finasteride? I don't see it on your regimen. I do, and I can say for a fact that .25 mg is not at all the same as 1 mg-5 mg. I suffered a huge loss to gain that knowledge. I'm not the only one that has real life experience with the so called 'flat dose response'. I don't quote studies because I know the real world outcome of this drug, which is WAY
more valuable tham the bullshit studies on finasteride.
 

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Do you actually have any experience with finasteride? I don't see it on your regimen. I do, and I can say for a fact that .25 mg is not at all the same as 1 mg-5 mg. I suffered a huge loss to gain that knowledge. I'm not the only one that has real life experience with the so called 'flat dose response'. I don't quote studies because I know the real world outcome of this drug, which is WAY
more valuable tham the bullshit studies on finasteride.


Yeah i micro dose finasteride at .05 mg and it lowers my dht pretty significantly so there's that.
 

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Do you actually have any experience with finasteride? I don't see it on your regimen. I do, and I can say for a fact that .25 mg is not at all the same as 1 mg-5 mg. I suffered a huge loss to gain that knowledge. I'm not the only one that has real life experience with the so called 'flat dose response'. I don't quote studies because I know the real world outcome of this drug, which is WAY
more valuable tham the bullshit studies on finasteride.

I have experience with finasteride, but that's completely irrelevant. What matters is what's measured in people, not your subjective anecdotal observation.
 
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How's your hair?
Too early to tell but had some sensitive nipple around two weeks ago when i went up to .5 so brought it back down to .05. Almost ran nolvadex and litro but the symptoms subsided.
 

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The flat dose in REALITY is not a proven fact. I have my own experience with that bullshit, also, ask gi joey about that. A guy that just posted recently about quartering 1 mg thinking that it was 5 mg and his hair went to sh*t. The only measurement that matters is the effect on your hair. Your serum dht levels may 'prove' the flat dose response but, in the end, it's the impact on your hair that matters. I tapered down, slowly, from .5 mg to .25 mg and suffered years worth of hairloss and rapid minituarization of all my hair
 

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My 'subjective anecdotal experience'? Is that supposed to diminish the reality that I experienced? I can assure you, I am not a unique individual, that is, if it happened to me, it will happen to others. If what you experience runs counter to what the studies show, then the studies are useless.
 

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The flat dose in REALITY is not a proven fact. I have my own experience with that bullshit, also, ask gi joey about that. A guy that just posted recently about quartering 1 mg thinking that it was 5 mg and his hair went to sh*t. The only measurement that matters is the effect on your hair. Your serum dht levels may 'prove' the flat dose response but, in the end, it's the impact on your hair that matters. I tapered down, slowly, from .5 mg to .25 mg and suffered years worth of hairloss and rapid minituarization of all my hair
Im not arguing but many have gone down in dose and had no shedding so again thats just anecdotal evidence. @chappaquiddick should try generic if price is the reason, if a shed happens go back to brand name. Going from 1mg a day to 1.25 a day is not a big deal at all.
 

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i tapered down from 1.25 mg, a dose I was on for over over 15 months, to . 5 mg for six months, with no negative effects. It was only when I went from .5 mg to .25 mg that this happened, basically overnight. These pics were taken two weeks apart and, no joke, that loss happened overnight. This is the REALITY of this drug. I have no idea why people dismiss anecdotal experiences of finasteride, because, that means, if it happens to ONE person, then it will happen to OTHERS. I've gotten more useful info from anecdotal accounts that I've gotten from all the 'studies'. My experience shows, along with many others, that the 'flat dose response', in regards to saving hair, that is our major concern, right? not what the serum dht levels show, right?, starts around .5 mg.
 
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Do you actually have any experience with finasteride? I don't see it on your regimen. I do, and I can say for a fact that .25 mg is not at all the same as 1 mg-5 mg. I suffered a huge loss to gain that knowledge. I'm not the only one that has real life experience with the so called 'flat dose response'. I don't quote studies because I know the real world outcome of this drug, which is WAY
more valuable tham the bullshit studies on finasteride.

i think the guy took propecia for a month but claims expert because he read the same generic studies everyone else has read. I wonder what he thinks about the side effects studies, I bet you he'll claim those are flawed.

Anything under .5mg wont have much of an effect, i too had to lose a decent amount of hair to realize that.
 

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I agree. I've followed a lot of the 'impact' threads and my impression of David_MPN is that his input is near useless in all respects.
 

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i think the guy took propecia for a month but claims expert because he read the same generic studies everyone else has read. I wonder what he thinks about the side effects studies, I bet you he'll claim those are flawed.

Anything under .5mg wont have much of an effect, i too had to lose a decent amount of hair to realize that.

I'm sure you'll have additional excuses should the polichem studies come out.

As for the studies on side effects, they give a range of measurements. Some say sides are severe, others say sides are rare. However there is no range on the dose of response of finasteride, all studies give the same result, no exceptions, the dose response is (nearly) flat.
 

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I'm sure you'll have additional excuses should the polichem studies come out.

As for the studies on side effects, they give a range of measurements. Some say sides are severe, others say sides are rare. However there is no range on the dose of response of finasteride, all studies give the same result, no exceptions, the dose response is (nearly) flat.

The 'studies' show a flat dose response for serum dht levels only. We don't care about that, we care about saving hair. If you said the flat dose response starts at .5 mg, then I would agree with you, but the fact that too many have experimented with doses lower than that, and failed, proves otherwise. Anecdotal or not, it is the real world experience that matters. If only ONE person has an experience that conflicts with the studies then there is a problem, no? How are the studies useful if there is no way of predicting if you will be the outlier? There isn't, so the studies are nearly useless.
 
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