Re: Permanent Propecia Side Effects
bubka said:
huh, science tells us that men who use finasteride at early ages have a less change of developing prostate cancer by 25%, so your suggestions holds as much water as me saying that you will grow yellow and black striped hair from bee pollen
bzzzzzzt
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditio ... ncer.drug/
http://www.swog.org/members/download/bu ... cle171.pdf
notice how i use scientific studies in my facts, you could learn a lot instead of being a wishful male pattern baldness sufferer
Hi, posting for the first time here... English's not my native language, so I might be expressing myself in a weird way sometimes. I think my english's good enough to be understood though.
The proof that bubka is being a fanatic and not a scientist that uses critical thinking is that he only mentions ONE line of the article he just submitted ! How convenient ! :whistle:
Let me quote some other lines of this very same article showing what science REALLY says about finasteride !
But there's some bad news: The same study seems to show that if a man taking finasteride does get the disease, the drug appears to increase his chance of getting a more aggressive form.
Why wasn't this mentioned in your post supposedly full of scientific factual reports ? :whistle:
I think the "funniest" line of all the article is the following :whistle:
Mortality in both groups was the same: Five in each group died of prostate cancer.
So even though less people from the finasteride-users group get cancer, the amount of deaths due to prostate cancer in both groups (finasteride users and non finasteride users) is the same in the end ! :innocent: :whistle:
And that's why researchers who worked on the study conclude that taking finasteride isn't a sure way to help preventing cancer :whistle:
But researchers were not convinced that men should take the drug to prevent the disease
The reason of this is an
assumption (even scientists don't have a reply to everything, even scientists can sometimes only make guesses) :whistle:
The reason for that disparity was not clear.
Dr. John Wasson, director of the Center for Aging at Dartmouth Medical School in Hanover, New Hampshire, and who served on the study's safety monitoring committee, said the tumor findings raised a number of questions: "What really is finasteride doing here? Is it a promoter of mean types of cancer, or a suppresser of meaningless types?"
Regarding finasteride use for hair growth, here's a scientist speaking :whistle:
For young men using the drug to promote hair growth, "I certainly wouldn't want to be taking a drug that potentially promotes cancer of the mean types," Dartmouth's Wasson said. "First, do no harm, that's the bottom line with any drug or treatment ... if you're a young guy, you should really be concerned about finasteride."
He predicted the study results would lead the Food and Drug Administration to take a fresh look at the safety data on the drug, which is made by Merck and requires a prescription. No one from the agency was immediately available to comment, and a call to the drug maker was not immediately returned.
Whoooo, safety data made by those who sell the pill ? This certainly means that the statistics they provide are minimal ones, and not average or maximal ones. There's no scientific proof to that, only economical logic behind.
So, bubka, is it me going senile or are you providing links that you haven't even read, or do you have selective memory that allows you to pick only the info that is compatible with your opinions ? :whistle: What kind of scientist would do that ? :freak: