Potentially The Worst Responder To Finasteride... Ever?

[Tao]

If it's excessive. For two reasons, it leads to adrenal fatigue, and DHT levels are increased during sexual activity. Just regular masturbating is not enough to make you go lose hair, but watching p**rn for hours is dangerous.

I did that a lot for the past 2 years and thats when my thing started , seriously

 

[baldingboi]

Can you stop this bs? Of course it f*****g can, how can you still deny this? Tell me that I would be in this same position without taking finasteride within 7 months - no or course I wouldn't you idiot

 

[baldingboi]

Sorry in reference to Pegasus "definitely not due to taking finasteride"

 

[baldingboi]

Finasteride did this to my hair in a year, I know the feeling ‍‍

That sucks man, we are the unbelievably unlucky ones to have this reaction to finasteride it's so unfair

 

[baldingboi]

Hey mate. I’m in a similar situation where I’m diffusing all over, but if I grow it out and keep it dry I get okay coverage - it’s gotten pretty bad pretty quickly though. I reckon I have some idea of the pain you’re going through - it’s bloody tough. Try to be proactive about it. Go to a derm/hair specialist and tell them what’s happening, get some bloods done etc... I’ve found using Nizoral 2% with a tiny drop of tea tree oil and leaving it in there for 10-15 mins before rinsing has helped with the dermatitis and itch. You’ve kind of got to be liberal with it too and if you see hairs all over your hands just know they were destined to come out anyway. No home run, but it’s certainly helped. I do that every second day. In terms of finasteride, I also doubt it’s effectiveness, but I’m also somewhat early in to using it so I’m sticking it out. Schedule more frequent visits to the derm/hair specialist to track where you’re at and discuss your concerns.

There’s no easy solution here and it’s a shitty position to be in. Do the best you can and stick with it.

Thanks for the advice man, I went to a hair specialist once but they just told me what I wanted to hear, nothing that I didn't know it was just a waste of time.
I started minoxidil and microneedling one month ago so hopefully that thickens up/regrows something but anything feels like a longshot at this point but who knows. Knowing my luck I will get another incessant shed from the stuff like I did with finasteride - this hasn't been the case so far however

 

[RockChalk]

Thanks for the advice man, I went to a hair specialist once but they just told me what I wanted to hear, nothing that I didn't know it was just a waste of time.
I started minoxidil and microneedling one month ago so hopefully that thickens up/regrows something but anything feels like a longshot at this point but who knows. Knowing my luck I will get another incessant shed from the stuff like I did with finasteride - this hasn't been the case so far however

I’m in a pretty similar spot. I’m getting another opinion from a hair specialist this week. I really want to be told straight up what I could possibly look forward to, not sold the dream outcome. Maybe try finding someone else to see? I’ve also started microneedling recently. I’m trying to remind myself that shedding doesn’t mean hair lost, but when you continue to lose density and your scalp becomes more visible it’s hard to not get emotional about it. Regardless, I’m sticking this out for the long haul. If I go bald, well I was destined to anyway. Unless I’m advised by a trusted medical professional to alter my treatment, I’m sticking through it. Unfortunately that’s all we have. Stay strong.

 

[Aaron McLaughlin]

Here my hair now, I’m on topical finasteride and ru and 15% minoxidil ‍ Nothing works,

 

[Tao]

Here my hair now, I’m on topical finasteride and ru and 15% minoxidil ‍ Nothing works,

Didn’t you say that Finasteride destroyed your hair, but now you’re back on it?
When I look at the 1 year comparison you uploaded earlier this is an improvement to me.
On the first picture right side you clearly have bald spots and on this one you don’t have..
Am I misjudging?
You shouldn’t expect to grow a persian carpet, man

 

[Aaron McLaughlin]

Didn’t you say that Finasteride destroyed your hair, but now you’re back on it?
When I look at the 1 year comparison you uploaded earlier this is an improvement to me.
On the first picture right side you clearly have bald spots and on this one you don’t have..
Am I misjudging?
You shouldn’t expect to grow a persian carpet, man

Yeah I’m using topical finasteride now, I’m shedding from it but I don’t want to stop either,I have no bald spots just thinned all over, if I grow it out, it probably will still look the same as that

 

[baldingboi]

Yeah I’m using topical finasteride now, I’m shedding from it but I don’t want to stop either,I have no bald spots just thinned all over, if I grow it out, it probably will still look the same as that

tbf man your hairline is still pretty good, you should try dermarolling or oral minoxidil to thicken up

 

[OldnBald]

Can you stop this bs? Of course it f*****g can, how can you still deny this? Tell me that I would be in this same position without taking finasteride within 7 months - no or course I wouldn't you idiot

No, it cannot.

The most, absolute most it can do is if you had a shedding phase from finasteride, but you are not a responder to finasteride because your hair is just so sensitive to loss it wasn't going to work anyway, and it just hastened the process due to that shed with nothing coming back stronger. but finasteride is not going to induce hair loss like dht or even to the much lesser extent testosterone.

 

[baldingboi]

No, it cannot.

The most, absolute most it can do is if you had a shedding phase from finasteride, but you are not a responder to finasteride because your hair is just so sensitive to loss it wasn't going to work anyway, and it just hastened the process due to that shed with nothing coming back stronger. but finasteride is not going to induce hair loss like dht or even to the much lesser extent testosterone.

I'm not saying I wasn't predisposed to go bald and finasteride altered my genes to cause this - I had slight temporal recession so it was apparent it was going to suffer from hairloss but I would say if I hadn't touched the stuff I would be at this stage 5 years down the line maybe longer in the space of 7 months

 

[MKP05]

Finasteride altered your genes in 2 months? You know nothing about male pattern baldness, finasteride, or basic biology. You're going to be 60 years old telling people you're bald because you took finasteride for 2 months 40 years ago. Get help dude, seriously.

Go back and re-read his post. He didn’t say his genes were altered in two months. It’s not the most well constructed sentence and I could be wrong but I think he’s stating that he doesn’t believe he’s genes were altered in two months...only that he would’ve held onto his hair longer than he did had he not gotten on finasteride.

To the OP, first of all you need to take much better pictures of your hair loss if you want anyone to take you seriously. You’re posting dimly lit or blurry photographs which show that you still have plenty of hair - negating some of your more exaggerated claims (ie you lost 60% of your hair). In the future try taking pictures from the same angle and lighting. It’s the only way to show whether you’ve regressed and by how much. I do believe you when you say that your hair is worse than it was prior to treatment and these guys are right that shedding is a common typical initial response. I also believe that some people never recover from this shed. I had a similar experience beginning with sudden temporal recession. I took finasteride for 17 months, my hair diffused into a very distinct Norwood 7 pattern but because it was so thick to begin with it was mostly masked. The shedding did stabilize after 6 months but I never recovered what I’d lost, my density was a fraction of what it once was and I continued to recede at the temples and hairline. Unlike you I stayed on finasteride for another 11 months before switching to dutasteride (which has yet to improve my condition almost 3 months in). But because I’ve stayed on treatments for 20 months i know that I at least did everything I could and no one can accuse me of stopping too early to see any regrowth. Without regrowth your hair will look worse than when you started. This is not a typical response to these medications but one which does happen unfortunately. There’s no way to tell what would’ve happened in your case but some of what you described reminds me of how I felt early on so there is a good chance that you would’ve eventually stabilized but not seen any regrowth. You might’ve been lucky to quit when you did. That being said finasteride certainly may have accelerated your hair loss but as others have said it was likely not the cause. The odds of finasteride halting hair loss are pretty high. I think what most people don’t understand (and I was one of them) is that a non responder will not only not maintain their hair but will typically be in much worse shape much quicker than had they not gotten on the medication due to the fact that they shed but never experienced a regrowth. Hope that helps. Good luck with your current treatments

 

[MKP05]

If you think you can shed hair from using finasteride while being a non-responder then you don't understand how finasteride works. If you're a non-responder it just means that finasteride won't do anything because your hair loss is not caused by dht. If your hair loss is caused by dht then finasteride will either stop it or at least slow it down. I lost a lot more hair in the same amount of time than OP did, and I was not on finasteride. Once male pattern baldness starts it can accelerate quickly. OP noticed his hair thinning so he jumped on finasteride as his hair loss was starting to accelerate. Two months later his hair looks even worse so he blames finasteride. Then he jumps off finasteride, and it continues to get worse.

Ok so someone like myself who lost a lot of ground while on finasteride for 17 months and continues to lose ground 3 months on duta, what do you suggest (short of going on a full tranny route)? My hairline and temples (especially the left) are receding at an untenable pace right now. The sides and back of my hair thinned considerably after starting duta but that seems fo have plateaued for now. Overall my hair is much thinner and finer now than when I started 20 months ago but coverage is still good on top and at the crown. My bloodwork is normal. I was convinced that duta would halt my hair loss or at least slow it down the same way I was convinced that finasteride would. But it hasn’t happened.

 

[baldingboi]

If you think you can shed hair from using finasteride while being a non-responder then you don't understand how finasteride works. If you're a non-responder it just means that finasteride won't do anything because your hair loss is not caused by dht. If your hair loss is caused by dht then finasteride will either stop it or at least slow it down. I lost a lot more hair in the same amount of time than OP did, and I was not on finasteride. Once male pattern baldness starts it can accelerate quickly. OP noticed his hair thinning so he jumped on finasteride as his hair loss was starting to accelerate. Two months later his hair looks even worse so he blames finasteride. Then he jumps off finasteride, and it continues to get worse.

But Pegasus I wasn't noticeably losing hair before I started finasteride and then I started looking to just hold what I have and then I get a 3 month long shed where im losing hundreds of hairs a day which had never happened before and the rest of my hair is now thin and the quality has just gone so there's no way it was natural. I don't understand why you can't grasp this. All I'm saying is that I would have been 100% better off without finasteride in this timeline (who knows about the long term)

 

[Tao]

Hey baldingboi,
have you ever thought about that genetically driven hair loss can always kick in more or less suddenly and let you loose or shed your hair a lot lot lot? You’ve asked in page 1 if this is a hairline of a 22 year old. And I would say yes. I know guys around your age who have Norwood 3 and even worse.
Take your situation as it is and relax.

 

[vinnyg0414]

these are the worst f*****g photos ever. do you have photos from before, like in july, and now? the ones your posting are aids

 

[neddy2016]

I had a similar issue with finasteride. I never experienced the male pattern baldness itch until I took finasteride. My hairloss suddenly sped up too. And I don't think it was a shed either. I wasn't actually noticeably shedding, my hair was just receding.

So I stopped taking finasteride and the itch went away and the hairloss slowed.

So I was convinced to try dutasteride instead and I had the same experience. An itchy receding scalp... So I stopped taking dutasteride, but this time it did not go away. my scalp was left incredibly sensitive. I am more prone to the male pattern baldness itch now. And it's been 2 years since I stopped... I hoped things would go back to normal but they haven't.

 

[baldingboi]

ive taken oral minoxidil 2.5mg a day (1.25 in morning and 1.25 at night) for around a month and my hair has definitely got thicker. however, last night i smoked some weed with my friend and i felt like my heart was going to burst out my chest it was really scary - and then today i have a sore left peck although i done a chest workout yesterday, the left side is considerably more sore than my right. kinda scary so im considering stopping it because its really not worth the long term

 

[YoungGuyEU]

Hello,
Around mid-July I decided to take the plunge and start finasteride. My hair was never noticeably balding and still very thick - there was only slight recession on the temples, however in an attempt to save any further recession from happening I decided to start finasteride.

From literally what it felt like day 1 i started to shed my hair in incredible quantities (something which i had never experienced before). Around 3 weeks in after incessant shedding I started to develop other side effects such as decreased libido, limp erections and painful inflamed scalp.

Anyway I continued because people on these forums always told people to ride out the shed and hope for the regrowth of this shed - but for the 3 months my hair NEVER stopped shedding so I quit around one month and a half ago (also due to the other side effects I was experienced I realised it was unsustainable). I literally lost 60% of my hair due to this 'shed' and it left the rest of my hair so thin. It has also notably obliterated the hair above my temples.

After I stopped finasteride, the shedding slowed down massively and now i only lose 2 hairs in the shower which are thin and lifeless. It feels like my other hair is just a matter of time before it falls out too. I am still hoping for regrowth but I am considerably less optimistic now than I was when I stopped because I have not noticed anything.

I have looked through these forums profusely to see if anyone else has had this ungodly shed AND experienced side effects and it just seems to be one or the other.

I am convinced that finasteride has literally kickstarted my male pattern baldness and I am utterly depressed knowing that it was through my own choice that this has happened. Does anyone have any advice on where to go from here? I am considering starting oral minoxidil but I feel like I can't face the shed that will induce. I just can't get over that a drug to STOP balding has caused this to happen and I know now that it has happened to other people on this forum it's so f*****g unfair.

I feel like Im the only one who experienced 0 shedding when starting finas lol,it just has stopped working after 2 years sadly
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...switch-to-dutas-wait-for-more-norwood.127506/