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mvpsoft

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I'm using things that are proven. It makes sense to use the proven things first, then if they don't work, try the unproven ones. The opposite approach is foolish. I'm using 5% minoxidil (proven), 2% Nizoral (proven), dutasteride (FDA trials showed it worked to combat hair loss, but Phase 3 trials were never completed for marketing reasons), copper peptides (proven), and the Lasercomb (proven to thicken hair, suspected but not yet proven to regrow hair). All of these have far more proof behind them than Procerin or any other oral supplement containing saw palmetto.

Once I got off Procerin and got onto proven things, my hair started to regrow. In six months I have regrown a significant amount of hair. I'm a good responder, yet in a year on Procerin I regrew nothing.

Where do you get your statistics of 100,000 vs 100? Please provide a link or a reference. If you don't, then I know that you are talking out of your ***.

Of course things come to light after clinical trials are conducted sometimes. Vioxx did what it was supposed to do, and that's what the clinical trials proved. Unfortunately, it also did some other things. The other things that it did didn't invalidate the results of the trial.

Oral saw palmetto doesn't work. We know that for sure. The main ingredient in Procerin is saw palmetto. Therefore Procerin doesn't work, not only for me, but for everyone. You could get as good a result using a placebo. The fact that some people think it works is no more evidence that it does than the fact that the placebo effect is real and well-known. Some people think the earth is flat too and that people have never been on the moon, that it was all a Hollywood stunt.

Experimental doesn't mean stupid, nor does it grant a license to scam.
 

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You're right. FDA approval doesn't mean its the only product that works. But the simple fact is Procerin has absolutely NO clinical data ........ Period. All they have is a bunch of anonymous user "feedback" that they are claiming is legit. You should never base a hair loss products effectiveness on anonymous opinions. That is a very very poor way to make a decision.

You should analyze the ingredients first, for their tested effectiveness on hair loss or its causes, and I can already tell you that its ingredients have no data backing them in any capacity as a hair loss treatment.

And by the way. Part of Procerin's marketing campaign is to create a bunch of fake websites with "product reviews" on them and put Procerin at the top. They're blatantly lying to people by doing this. Totally deceptive. The ads are all over google. Fake sites like consumer-reviews.net ... all a bunch of pseduo websites putting fake testimonials and fake product reviews ... with Procerin as most recommended.

Please don't be tricked by these guys. Read our articles. Follow what they say. They say to analyze the data yourself. They don't even say to listen to us. Listen to the science, and when you realize Procerin has none, aside from the very weak "saw palmetto" argument (yawn), you'll realize the treatment isn't worth the money.

Show me the data procerin.

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I registered just to reply to this thread. I have been taking Procerin for 11 weeks now and so far it's working pretty well. I have terminal hairs sprouting in scalp area that hasn't seen any sight of hairs for over 10 years. So I dunno what to say to people who claim it's a scam because that hasn't been my experience thus far.
 

oni

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I registered just to reply to this thread. I have been taking Procerin for 11 weeks now and so far it's working pretty well. I have terminal hairs sprouting in scalp area that hasn't seen any sight of hairs for over 10 years. So I dunno what to say to people who claim it's a scam because that hasn't been my experience thus far.

I bet you did, please show us the pics before and after!
 

Doppleganger

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oni said:
I registered just to reply to this thread. I have been taking Procerin for 11 weeks now and so far it's working pretty well. I have terminal hairs sprouting in scalp area that hasn't seen any sight of hairs for over 10 years. So I dunno what to say to people who claim it's a scam because that hasn't been my experience thus far.

I bet you did, please show us the pics before and after!

Hmm. Look my friend. Had I heard about the Procerin 'scam' before I bought it I definately wouldn't have done so. You have to take seriously what a lot of people are saying about it. It's working well so far for me. Should I come on here and lie and agree that it's a scam just because that seems to be the thing to do?

I am a Norwood 6 (so yes very bald on top) and I was slick before I started using this product. Now I can see terminal hairs coming through all over the scalp. It may turn out that's all I will grow with this product. I will certainly post pics if I get decent results after a few months. But at the end of the day it matters very little if anyone on this forum believes me or not. I just responded to a thread to which I had an opinion on.
 

oni

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I did not say scam you did lol! :lol: and just show us the pics now then lol!
 

Doppleganger

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oni said:
I did not say scam you did lol! :lol: and just show us the pics now then lol!

Yeah I know mate, you didn't. But I never said you did though right? However, a lot of people are calling it a 'scam'. But I intend to carry on taking it for the time being. After all, it's my own money I'm wasting right?

As for pics I've only been taking the stuff for 12 weeks now and I don't have a high definition/megapixel digital camera that will pick up what regrowth I have thus far. If the hair growth can be picked up on the shitty camera on my mobile I will certainly post before and after pics, as the hair growth will have to be quite extensive to be noticeable on that contraption.

Please understand though. If my regrowth continues and I do post pics, it will be for my benefit and to demonstrate that for some people Procerin may be worth considering. I have zero interest in whether you, or anyone else for that matter, believe me or not. I don't know you from Adam mate and your opinion carries very little weight in my world. As it is the same for mine in yours no doubt. As it should be my friend.

BTW, if you stay near Edinburgh drop me a PM and I'd be more than willing to show you my regrowth.
 
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