Propecia and Drug Testing

daves1014

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Hi, I'm a longtime lurker but first time poster. I apologize if this is a silly question but I am scheduled to have a drug test next week as part of my pre-employment physical for a new job that has been offered to me. I believe it will be a urine test. I've been using propecia for over a year and like many of you, have been obtaining it without a prescription from overseas. I was just wondering if there's any chance of propecia causing a problem on the drug test which may affect my employment status. I know the aim of employment drug tests are to really detect for illegal substances such as weed, cocaine, narcotics etc. But does anyone know if propecia could raise any red flags on the test, especially if they find out I have been using it without a prescription? And if it could be problematic, does anyone know how long you'd need to go off of propecia in order to be undetected on a urine drug test? I'm really pscyhed about this new job and I don't want to do anything that could jeapordize the job offer. Thanks!
 

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Propecia either gives a false positive or a false negative for steroid use. Either way, althetes can't use it because the olympics would have no way of knowing if they are on steroids. Sounds like BS, since researchers can test for finasteride levels, but maybe the olympics is too cheap to do those tests?

Ask the technician, not your employer, if they test for steroids. If so, tell the drug test technician, not your employer, that you are on finasteride. I doubt they will request proof. Also, ask the technician if you have any privacy rights to keep your employer from knowing about the finasteride. I think you do, so they can't report that. Unless you are going to be a police officer, military person, or customs inspector, or athlete, I don't think the steroids will be an issue.

If they do want proof, and are testing for steroids, show the tech the bottle if necessary. If the job pays enough, why not get a prescription? I highly doubt the testing lab will report you to the Feds, or even your employer. If you want to be an FBI agent, you probably should just get a prescription, and then you don't have to fill it. You can just get more overseas, if you trust the online companies to actually be getting it from Dr Reddy's or Cipla.
 

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As long as you provide a prescription for finasteride, it shouldn't effect your chances for a job.....that is if finasteride even shows up as anything illegal. Go to Medicalwellnesscenter.com....they will send you a prescription for finasteride for about 50 bucks....you just need to fill out a simple questionaire. I've been wondering the same thing myself. I'm currently working for a large company from my home and am rather sick of it. I've been thinking of seeking employment elsewhere and am sure any job I apply for will require a drug test. I know that site mentioned above is legit as far as the prescriptions are concerned.. I know someone who has used it. They will send you the prescription or give you the option to fill it online with their affiliated pharmacy. Or you can just ask your doctor to write one...I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a problem if you tell him you've been taking it anyway and getting it online.....he may feel it's his duty.

Also, btw, I had a urine test about 6 months ago....I flunked it for THC, but was taking prednisone (a steroid) for a sinus condition and that is what caused the false positive....that's what they told me anyway and all I had to do was show them the prescription and they passed me.
 

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if a steroid gives a false THC positive, maybe finasteride could too, since it is a steroid.

Beaner, could someone get a http://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com prescription filled at a walgreens if they wanted Avodart?

I'd like to buy just one strip of Avodart, just to test it. $50 for the script, then $30 for the Avodart. That is pricey.
 
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CCS,

if the wellnesscenter approves you for a script, theyll call it in at the US pharmacy of your choice. i know people who have used it. you do have to keep paying a renewal fee every 6 months or year to get more refills but most derms want to see you again anyway periodically and that costs money as well so i think it evens out.

the nice thing about going to an in-person derm though, if you have medical insurance, is that you can have him look at your situation, and if you develop a relationship with him you may not have to go back as often and can request refills from him over the phone.
 

daves1014

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Thanks for the feedback. The job I'm getting is an administrative position for a medical facility. So in this case, since the drug test is being performed at the facility, the technician would be part of my employer. I figure it's very unlikely that the propecia/finasteride would cause any problems on the test anyways. But just in case, I took your advice and went ahead and applied for a prescription from the medicalwellnesscenter.com website. I figure it's worth it, at least for the peace of mind, if nothing else. But just out of curiousity, does anyone know how long someone would have to stop taking propecia for it to be undetectable on a urine test? Thanks
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
if a steroid gives a false THC positive, maybe finasteride could too, since it is a steroid.

Beaner, could someone get a http://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com prescription filled at a walgreens if they wanted Avodart?

I'd like to buy just one strip of Avodart, just to test it. $50 for the script, then $30 for the Avodart. That is pricey.

yes..you can get that script filled at the pharmacy of your choice....they will send it to you via mail....express mail as well, if you so desire. (the prescription, that is) you would need to fill it for a month I would assume, so whatever you'd pay at your local pharm.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
if a steroid gives a false THC positive, maybe finasteride could too, since it is a steroid.

Beaner, could someone get a http://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com prescription filled at a walgreens if they wanted Avodart?

I'd like to buy just one strip of Avodart, just to test it. $50 for the script, then $30 for the Avodart. That is pricey.

College..I think I misread....yes..you can get a script for Advodart as well.

BTW to anyone interested...the pharm that Medicalwellnesscenter uses (community drug) offers generic finasteride capsules at 1.0 and 1.25mg doses...I found that completely odd.....not sure who is putting out generic finasteride capsules but if anyone wants to check it out.
 

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daves1014 said:
Thanks for the feedback. for the peace of mind, if nothing else. But just out of curiousity, does anyone know how long someone would have to stop taking propecia for it to be undetectable on a urine test? Thanks

I cannot say with certainty, but considering the half-life of finasteride, I would imagine it couldn't be long. Don't take that as fact though....ask the science guys here......actually, I have no idea...that just sounded good.
 
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collegechemistrystudent said:
.not sure who is putting out generic finasteride capsules but if anyone wants to check it out.

Cipla has been putting Finpecia out for years and that's my guess of what it is.

My generic proscar from a US pharmacy is made by Cipla, and I'm guessing that it's the same as Fincar. Well my bottle says distributed through TEVA pharmaceuticals, an Israeli company, but they get their products from Cipla. So i'm guessing that I'm basically taking fincar right now and that that script site you posted is selling finpecia.

As I've said before, the difference between my Cipla products and the Cipla from any website is that I know my Cipla is real.
 

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JayMan said:
beaner said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
.not sure who is putting out generic finasteride capsules but if anyone wants to check it out.

Cipla has been putting Finpecia out for years and that's my guess of what it is.

My generic proscar from a US pharmacy is made by Cipla, and I'm guessing that it's the same as Fincar. Well my bottle says distributed through TEVA pharmaceuticals, an Israeli company, but they get their products from Cipla. So i'm guessing that I'm basically taking fincar right now and that that script site you posted is selling finpecia.

As I've said before, the difference between my Cipla products and the Cipla from any website is that I know my Cipla is real.

It's not Cipla product...it's dispensed from Community Drug...and should be a legitimate USA approved product as this is completely based in the States and is an FDA approved pharmacy...this is why I found it odd...it is definitely not Indian generics. I just haven't had the motivation to email them to find out.
 
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beaner said:
JayMan said:
beaner said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
.not sure who is putting out generic finasteride capsules but if anyone wants to check it out.

Cipla has been putting Finpecia out for years and that's my guess of what it is.

My generic proscar from a US pharmacy is made by Cipla, and I'm guessing that it's the same as Fincar. Well my bottle says distributed through TEVA pharmaceuticals, an Israeli company, but they get their products from Cipla. So i'm guessing that I'm basically taking fincar right now and that that script site you posted is selling finpecia.

As I've said before, the difference between my Cipla products and the Cipla from any website is that I know my Cipla is real.

It's not Cipla product...it's dispensed from Community Drug...and should be a legitimate USA approved product as this is completely based in the States and is an FDA approved pharmacy...this is why I found it odd...it is definitely not Indian generics. I just haven't had the motivation to email them to find out.

Beaner that is really weird because I thought that Propecia was a separate patent from Proscar, and patents for drugs last usually 10 years. Now the patent for Proscar just expired and that is why you see generic proscars being sold in the US, but I was under the impression that Propecia's patent didn't expire until December of 2007. So I have no idea how an American pharmacy is selling a generic of it.

Edit: Nope I was wrong.

Got this from a link regarding the FDA:

"in addition to approving simvastatin, the FDA approved three other generics this week:

* Finasteride tablets, 1 mg (Propecia), for the treatment of mild to moderate male pattern hair loss in men between 18 and 41 years of age.
* Finasteride tablets, 5 mg, (Proscar), for the treatment of benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH) in men with an enlarged prostate to improve symptoms by reducing the size of the prostate."

Well let me say that I hope this generic 1 mg finasteride reaches US pharmacies soon, and that it's affordable.
 

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JayMan said:
beaner said:
JayMan said:
beaner said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
.not sure who is putting out generic finasteride capsules but if anyone wants to check it out.

Cipla has been putting Finpecia out for years and that's my guess of what it is.

My generic proscar from a US pharmacy is made by Cipla, and I'm guessing that it's the same as Fincar. Well my bottle says distributed through TEVA pharmaceuticals, an Israeli company, but they get their products from Cipla. So i'm guessing that I'm basically taking fincar right now and that that script site you posted is selling finpecia.

As I've said before, the difference between my Cipla products and the Cipla from any website is that I know my Cipla is real.

It's not Cipla product...it's dispensed from Community Drug...and should be a legitimate USA approved product as this is completely based in the States and is an FDA approved pharmacy...this is why I found it odd...it is definitely not Indian generics. I just haven't had the motivation to email them to find out.

Beaner that is really weird because I thought that Propecia was a separate patent from Proscar, and patents for drugs last usually 10 years. Now the patent for Proscar just expired and that is why you see generic proscars being sold in the US, but I was under the impression that Propecia's patent didn't expire until December of 2007. So I have no idea how an American pharmacy is selling a generic of it.

That is why I found it odd....I will email them right now to see what the product is, but they refer to them as 1 and 1.25 mg capsules which would be completely new....all others are regular film coated pills.
 
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beaner i edited my post above at the same time you were responding. it is apparently now legal for companies to make generic versions of propecia as well as proscar. my guess is the reason they are not selling them yet is that there isn't the same level of demand for generic propecia as there is for proscar...
 

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JayMan said:
beaner i edited my post above at the same time you were responding. it is apparently now legal for companies to make generic versions of propecia as well as proscar. my guess is the reason they are not selling them yet is that there isn't the same level of demand for generic propecia as there is for proscar...

lol...well, i edited mine a bit too at the same time apparently...although. I'm glad you found that info...cool.
 

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Hi i'm from israel and TEVA is a big compeny here. infact they are the biggest generic compeny in the WORLD. Are you saying they are making generic finasteride now? I'd love to see that, i'd trust them much more then cipla, and also they would be making it the same way propecia is being made,.
 

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what do you think the odds are that Cipla is not competant to make dutasteride through a different synthesis method than GSKs?
 
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Hi i'm from israel and TEVA is a big compeny here. infact they are the biggest generic compeny in the WORLD. Are you saying they are making generic finasteride now? I'd love to see that, i'd trust them much more then cipla, and also they would be making it the same way propecia is being made,.

TEVA gets their finasteride from Cipla, and I get it from TEVA through a US pharmacy.
 
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HARM1 said:
Hi i'm from israel and TEVA is a big compeny here. infact they are the biggest generic compeny in the WORLD. Are you saying they are making generic finasteride now? I'd love to see that, i'd trust them much more then cipla, and also they would be making it the same way propecia is being made,.

TEVA gets their finasteride from Cipla, and I get it from TEVA through a US pharmacy. It's 100% real.
 

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JayMan said:
HARM1 said:
Hi i'm from israel and TEVA is a big compeny here. infact they are the biggest generic compeny in the WORLD. Are you saying they are making generic finasteride now? I'd love to see that, i'd trust them much more then cipla, and also they would be making it the same way propecia is being made,.

TEVA gets their finasteride from Cipla, and I get it from TEVA through a US pharmacy. It's 100% real.

That does not sound right. TEVA is a frug compeny, they make their own drugs, why would they buy them and then sell them while they can make it themselves?
 
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