ANDREW_J_I
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1/8th of what? a 5mg proscar tab?
propecia libido question
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No give it time. Not everyone notices instant effects. The way it works means the effects will increase over time. That is my own experience and that of others I have read.
Read this thread for more info.
http://www.regrowth.com/hair_loss_forum ... =6&t=17874
The guys there say the same. It takes time. Don't look to increase the dose yet either and keep your carbs up as I said before.
Read this thread for more info.
http://www.regrowth.com/hair_loss_forum ... =6&t=17874
The guys there say the same. It takes time. Don't look to increase the dose yet either and keep your carbs up as I said before.
Well i was into the same situation as yours a while ago. Was not getting hard like before. Sex was not as fun as before too.
I did some search and found something interesting about Libidus (spelling ?) This is not a scam, you have to try it.
Found it at this website, where people discuss of their experience about serveral sex enhancer.
Here is the site
http://www.healthboards.com, then go to the sex enhancer submenu.
There is a post about Libidus. Read it.
They claim to be all natural. NO need of prescription. TRY IT.
You dont need to take 2 pills as they recommend. I took one pill, and that was ennough. Even now i am having sex with my wife without using it. This thing is a definite complement to those that has Propecia sides.
Thanks me later.
Bought it without telling to my wife. She noticed that i was harder than before. Again she asked me yesterday if i had diminish the size of the propecia pills because she says that my dick was has hard has before.
I did some search and found something interesting about Libidus (spelling ?) This is not a scam, you have to try it.
Found it at this website, where people discuss of their experience about serveral sex enhancer.
Here is the site
http://www.healthboards.com, then go to the sex enhancer submenu.
There is a post about Libidus. Read it.
They claim to be all natural. NO need of prescription. TRY IT.
You dont need to take 2 pills as they recommend. I took one pill, and that was ennough. Even now i am having sex with my wife without using it. This thing is a definite complement to those that has Propecia sides.
Thanks me later.
Bought it without telling to my wife. She noticed that i was harder than before. Again she asked me yesterday if i had diminish the size of the propecia pills because she says that my dick was has hard has before.
mr_sparkle
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by carbs you mean...pasta/bread/rice etc yeah?
I mean....y'know my libido is stronger. But I was expecting Casaber to allow me to keep a rock hard on all night and go several times. At the moment I'm no different to before I took it really. I'm getting decent hard ons but they're not lasting as long as i'd like really
Maybe taking L-Arginine alongside is cancelling it out or something. I dunno. Or it's too early to tell
But yeah I've only been on it four days, two doses so i guess no need to panic yet.
I mean....y'know my libido is stronger. But I was expecting Casaber to allow me to keep a rock hard on all night and go several times. At the moment I'm no different to before I took it really. I'm getting decent hard ons but they're not lasting as long as i'd like really
Maybe taking L-Arginine alongside is cancelling it out or something. I dunno. Or it's too early to tell
But yeah I've only been on it four days, two doses so i guess no need to panic yet.
mr_sparkle said:
You gotta be patient man!
You've only been on for three days. Sure that sounds like a long time but many drugs (steroids, propecia etc) take time. The guys in that post I linked above and myself are all saying the same thing - namely it takes a week or two before you notice the effects really come on and by the sounds of it you're already beginning to notice the first instance of libido increasing which is GOOD NEWS. In fact you're probably ahead of many by noticing effects in 3 days - the guys in the thread linked (all 3 of em) commented it takes time.
Please remember this ain't a line of coke which will make you super horny within minutes.
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well yeah....f*****g hell this stuff is rather good. The last few days my morning woods have been rather massive...and with my girlfriend last night...I was hornyer than I've been for SO long.
I'm still not getting full massive hard ons to last that long but the casaber should fix that. But it MAY be the fact I've quit propecia. I'll hit propecia again soon at 0.5mg a day maybe.
I'm also getting a lot more jizz when I come. Even if I jack off daily I spaff a huge amount. It's brilliant :lol:
I'm still not getting full massive hard ons to last that long but the casaber should fix that. But it MAY be the fact I've quit propecia. I'll hit propecia again soon at 0.5mg a day maybe.
I'm also getting a lot more jizz when I come. Even if I jack off daily I spaff a huge amount. It's brilliant :lol:
danish82 said:
huh? Which study is that? I can't see how a DA would impact DHT to be honest. A better explanation is looking at something like cocaine which increases sex drive a lot but through its effects on dopamine. Cabaser does the same via its function as a dopamine agonist and by reducing prolactin.
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and in all patients but one treated by BRC. In addition, a significant increase of serum testosterone (from 3.7 +/- 0.3 to 5.3 +/- 0.2 microg/l) and dihydrotestosterone (from 0.4 +/- 0.1 to 1.1 +/- 0.1 nmol/l) was recorded. At the beginning of treatment, mild side-effects were recorded in two patients after CAB and mild-to-moderate side-effects in five patients after BRC administration. The treatment with CAB normalized PRL levels, improving gonadal and sexual function and fertility in males with prolactinoma, earlier than did BRC treatment, providing good tolerability and excellent patient compliance to medical treatment.
correct me if im wrong..?
correct me if im wrong..?
No I just flicked through before.
I still don't think this has anything to do with the increase in libido seen. I have taken many high dose testosterone cycles as well as dianabol etc and these would increase test/DHT a lot more than what that study says and yet while you feel hornier on test no way near as much as this.
I think it is its normalising function on hormonal levels that the study shows. Dopamine agonists have been advanced in bodybuilding as means to normalise metabolism when dieting/low bodyfat. Use of them in such a situation would result in higher test as well as growth hormone, thyroid production etc.
In this situation the drug would be correcting a metabolic fault similar to how vitamin C preventing scurvy doesn't mean that once you go beyond the minimum needed you are going to get much extra effect. This is a very complex subject. Anyone interested in knowing more should go to bodyrecomposition.com and buy the book bromocriptine (a similar but weaker drug) which explains how dopamine agonists work to increase sex drive, optimise hormonal function etc. The article below highlights some of the factors though:
http://www.qfac.com/articles/bromo_add.html
I still don't think this has anything to do with the increase in libido seen. I have taken many high dose testosterone cycles as well as dianabol etc and these would increase test/DHT a lot more than what that study says and yet while you feel hornier on test no way near as much as this.
I think it is its normalising function on hormonal levels that the study shows. Dopamine agonists have been advanced in bodybuilding as means to normalise metabolism when dieting/low bodyfat. Use of them in such a situation would result in higher test as well as growth hormone, thyroid production etc.
In this situation the drug would be correcting a metabolic fault similar to how vitamin C preventing scurvy doesn't mean that once you go beyond the minimum needed you are going to get much extra effect. This is a very complex subject. Anyone interested in knowing more should go to bodyrecomposition.com and buy the book bromocriptine (a similar but weaker drug) which explains how dopamine agonists work to increase sex drive, optimise hormonal function etc. The article below highlights some of the factors though:
http://www.qfac.com/articles/bromo_add.html
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Yes yes, but thats not my point. Im horribel at english.
But im using propecia to lower my DHT, but it sadly also raises my prolactin levels, so I get low libido. But then comes cabergoline and saves my prolactiv levels, but raises my DHT levels x 3 times. Aint I just back to scratch then?..
But im using propecia to lower my DHT, but it sadly also raises my prolactin levels, so I get low libido. But then comes cabergoline and saves my prolactiv levels, but raises my DHT levels x 3 times. Aint I just back to scratch then?..
I think you are overanalysing here really. Like I said dopamine agonists at most will normalise hormonal function so that if you are not producing enough DHT or whatever hormone they will act to improve function. However, that isn't the same as saying that they will elevate DHT above normal levels. In the presence of a DHT lowering drug like propecia I would imagine this normalising effect would be more than cancelled out. Speaking based on my research I have never heard of people complaining about hairloss from Cabergoline. In any case if you are really concerned the simple step would be just to increase your propecia dose to further lower DHT. As I said I don't think cabergoline's effect on libido is mediated tthrough DHT but prolactin and dopamine.
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joeylloyd said:That is awesome news dude. Try it with a little Cialis and watch out - by the end your dick will drop off with the combo of huge libido increase and constant hard on
haha see I'm getting huge hard ons in the morning. Not quite so long lasting at night but may need to give it time.
I fear if I took cialis I'd never be able to get flaccid again and it may be too much to take! But I may give it a a go..
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I'm gonna get some Cialis. I had a bit of trouble keeping it up and although I was extremely tired AND had spent the previous few dats continually jacking off thanks to the Casaber making me so horny....it made me so horny that I guess I wacked off too much, losing some libido. Cialis will be good for emergencies!
Don't overdo the stuff though - you sound like you are at risk of injuring yourself you're that horny. How is the actual sensations of sex and stuff like that? Different or do you just want sex more often now?
Also, have you noticed any effects on your body in terms of leaning out, better vascularity and improved glycogen storage?
Also, have you noticed any effects on your body in terms of leaning out, better vascularity and improved glycogen storage?
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I thought I was horny ...
but last night I really wasn't. In all fairness I was f*****g tired (did a total of 10 hours driving the day before) but that kind of reason would work without libido enhancers....surely Casaber should overcome things such as tiredness? Luckily my gf understood especially as she's been exhausted the last week so had no problem.
I was kinda horny....but basically couldn't keep it up and after a while couldn't get it up at all. Cialis would be useful here. A few days ago I was REALLY horny just in terms of massive morning wood and just much more...energetic with her!
I haven't actually had full sex since starting Casaber so I wouldn't know. When i masturbate there's definately a difference - much more jizz. Don't think the sensation is different except more semen.
Er I have no idea about the last bit. I've put on a little weight mainly cos I've been eating lots of cookies and dodgy petrol station sandwiches!
but last night I really wasn't. In all fairness I was f*****g tired (did a total of 10 hours driving the day before) but that kind of reason would work without libido enhancers....surely Casaber should overcome things such as tiredness? Luckily my gf understood especially as she's been exhausted the last week so had no problem.
I was kinda horny....but basically couldn't keep it up and after a while couldn't get it up at all. Cialis would be useful here. A few days ago I was REALLY horny just in terms of massive morning wood and just much more...energetic with her!
I haven't actually had full sex since starting Casaber so I wouldn't know. When i masturbate there's definately a difference - much more jizz. Don't think the sensation is different except more semen.
Er I have no idea about the last bit. I've put on a little weight mainly cos I've been eating lots of cookies and dodgy petrol station sandwiches!
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I really dunno if Casaber is doing anything! There's been a couple of days I have been horny as f*** and some days where I've been so...unaroused. This drug is wierd. Very wierd. Any increase in libido may just be because of quitting finasteride.
What exactly am I meant to be feeling cos I'm not feeling that horny all the time... I was expecting constant hard ons and being like The Todd from Scrubs / Glenn Quagmire from Family Guy style!
What exactly am I meant to be feeling cos I'm not feeling that horny all the time... I was expecting constant hard ons and being like The Todd from Scrubs / Glenn Quagmire from Family Guy style!
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Concerning the quoted study, does anyone know what normal serum dht levels are? The people in the study all had their own problems which may have had them to have lower than normal DHT levels:
"All the patients suffered from libido impairment, ten from reduced sexual potency, and six had infertility. In five patients provocative bilateral galactorrhea was found"
Joeylloyd: Why is it important to keep dietary carbs up? One of the reasons, I am going to take the med is to help get cut up. I don't usually respond well to carbs and keep a low glycemic diet to lose fat.
"All the patients suffered from libido impairment, ten from reduced sexual potency, and six had infertility. In five patients provocative bilateral galactorrhea was found"
Joeylloyd: Why is it important to keep dietary carbs up? One of the reasons, I am going to take the med is to help get cut up. I don't usually respond well to carbs and keep a low glycemic diet to lose fat.