Hairloss23
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Because all evidence from studies suggests otherwise, because there is nothing he is using that is known to cause dependency.
Prostaglandin Protocol General Discussion [swisstemples]
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Because all evidence from studies suggests otherwise, because there is nothing he is using that is known to cause dependency.
Which studies would these be exactly?
He is blocking PGD2 which has a study that shows it destroys hair follicles, what makes you think that once you stop blocking PGD2 that it wont continue attack the follicles again?
Likewise PGE2 is being used a growth stimulant here, why would any new hair continue growing once the stimulant has been removed? One of the speculated pathways that minoxidil works via is PGE2.
The protocol is a treatment, not a cure as it does not permanently fix the underlying causes.
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It is a major failing of both finasteride and minoxidil that once you stop taking them, you end up exactly where you would have been without ever taking them in the first place. IMO this is evidence that they don't actually solve the problem, if they did you would end up where you were prior to taking the drug.
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Given that he uses dutasteride, why do people believe that his regrowth is due to lithium chloride, etc?
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Given that he uses dutasteride, why do people believe that his regrowth is due to lithium chloride, etc?
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You don't end up where you would have been had you never taken it with finasteride.
If you read his blog he explains that he started with finasteride and then went on to dutasteride, he maintained but did not regain his temples and he is a non-res ponder to minoxidil. He did get regrowth with his protocol however as others have pointed out his start point is not where he makes out so it's maybe not as impressive as it seems at first but kudos for getting the regrowth that he did. It does seem that he hit a limit but I've got no problem if I am proved wrong if/when he posts pictures showing dense regrowth.
Folliman
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http://www.sciencecompany.com/Lithium-Chloride-100g-P6357.aspx
The label says it could be fatal if it's absorbed through the skin. Why is swisstemples using this? is he testing his luck or does he know something we don't?
I'm not against his regime, I was just researching because I wanted to try, but the label sounds scary.
The label says it could be fatal if it's absorbed through the skin. Why is swisstemples using this? is he testing his luck or does he know something we don't?
I'm not against his regime, I was just researching because I wanted to try, but the label sounds scary.
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Too busy enjoying life with his new follicles!
I.D WALKER
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God let's hope you didn't just answer your own ?.
To busy not updating cause his protocol is a fail.
westonci
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Does anyone know how I can get setipiprant. Is groups buys a monthly thing?
I.D WALKER
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I don't really know my friend.
I think rather it is more like " a no better new treatment still unavailable thing". :-(
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Try your luck over at the Dedicated Seti thread. G-Luck.
I think rather it is more like " a no better new treatment still unavailable thing". :-(
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Try your luck over at the Dedicated Seti thread. G-Luck.
Norwood One
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Maybe he stumbled upon a secret formulation in his lab and single handedly cured hair loss so he doesn't need to come back?
I don't know man. He was a smart guy for sure.
I don't know man. He was a smart guy for sure.
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Unfortunately his brain rotted away after 1 month of Finasteride and he is now a vegetable.
I.D WALKER
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Poor Swiss, he swiftly went from Swiss cheese to Swiss chard in a New York minute.
If this keeps up his Swiss watch will be thoroughly cleaned by the next sun down,
Zurich time of course.
Drugs & Swiss' sweet heart.
If this keeps up his Swiss watch will be thoroughly cleaned by the next sun down,
Zurich time of course.
Drugs & Swiss' sweet heart.
Norwood One
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Lol Dench, your sarcasm is not as obvious as it seems. I'm sure some newbie will read this and assume it's true.
Reminds me of https://youtu.be/k8TwRmX6zs4?t=118
I didn't know that about estradiol slowing down hair growth. Thanks man. I have the same issue, even on .25mg getting gyno.
I used to take zinc before, and it did help with gyno and also made hair better first couple days after taking it. And then losses effect on hair, from my point of view.
I tried to cycle zinc after that. Do you cycle it? Like take every other day or similar.
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I was exactly the same as you, 0.25mg of finasteride every 3 days caused me irreversible gyno. Crazy... I used to take Zinc pills as well for a long time but I didn't notice much difference in hair when I stopped (Didn't take zinc picolinate and b6 together though)
Sucks man. pgd2 blockers are our only solution. CB is too expensive. We need Samumed now and something better than seti. Is it helping you?
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Too early to say really as I realised that the vehicle I was using for seti (stemoxydine, the cheap garner one) was becoming unstable after a few days, waiting on eth/PG in post. I am taking oral seti as well as a stop gap until I can sort out the vehicle, but it's not doing anything other than reducing my itch, topical is the way to go for efficacy.
I do think castor oil is having a positive effect as since I started using it topically with DMSO my hair has improved in density and overall appearance. But yeah too early to say how it's working as a whole yet.
I do think castor oil is having a positive effect as since I started using it topically with DMSO my hair has improved in density and overall appearance. But yeah too early to say how it's working as a whole yet.