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I've heard that the whole hairline can recede slightly, including the middle but usually hair that is receding unevenly is male pattern baldness.
Question about a maturing hairline . .
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So to you it looks like I’m early stages of male pattern baldness?
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I'm not 100% sure, put it this way, it's not going anywhere soon, keep taking pictures of it every 3 months or so and compare the pictures, I've seen loads of guys with similar hairlines to your who have that little dent in their hairline and they aren't going bald. what's your family history of hairloss like?
Mixed bag really. Moms side has great genes. My dad is balding at age 45 between nw3 and nw4 paternal grandfather began to bald at 25 however my dads maternal grandfather had a nw1 thick black hair until he died at 75.
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The fact that neither your dad or maternal grandfather are nw7s means you probably won't get aggressive hair loss and will have a good chance at maintaining your hair with finasteride if you are balding.
I've recently found a paper that describes the process often called hairline maturation.
In short, it's likely a different process, coded by different genes. I'd agree it's still hair loss (I wouldn't call it 'baldness' tho as it doesn't lead to the degrees when one called 'bald').
The authors suggest that it is also tied to androgens but probably only in part as many White women also go through it, so the mature hairline is not even fully 'male-pattern'. In women the process is often much slower though, resulting in only thinning temples, not fully fallen out through the most of the life, and some women reach NW2-like hairlines in old age.
This is probably why some men get stuck with NW2 for decades or for the rest of their lives, or otherwise get NW5-7 without ever getting NW2. Sammo Hung, a non-White, is an example when one is slowly diffuse thinning while still having juvenile hairline.
In short, it's likely a different process, coded by different genes. I'd agree it's still hair loss (I wouldn't call it 'baldness' tho as it doesn't lead to the degrees when one called 'bald').
The authors suggest that it is also tied to androgens but probably only in part as many White women also go through it, so the mature hairline is not even fully 'male-pattern'. In women the process is often much slower though, resulting in only thinning temples, not fully fallen out through the most of the life, and some women reach NW2-like hairlines in old age.
This is probably why some men get stuck with NW2 for decades or for the rest of their lives, or otherwise get NW5-7 without ever getting NW2. Sammo Hung, a non-White, is an example when one is slowly diffuse thinning while still having juvenile hairline.
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Because they want to?
Ok, most men lose some hairline inches in adult life. It is still hairloss
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You're frontal hairline is similar to mine. Looks like diffuse thinning. But I don't think I wll recede too much.
So doctors use the term mature hairline because they want to but the term dosent actually exist lol. Give over. My forelock is also not diffuse thinning I’m not sure where you got that information from.
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I said this before, you have two types of hairlines: juvenile and mature. Most people don't retain their juvenile hairline. So the norm is a mature hairline and most guys reach that stage in their late teens to early twenties when puberty completes. Most people label the juvenile hairline a NW1 and the mature hairline a NW2. Most hair transplants doctors feel that balding is considered beyond a NW2. Some people can maintain a NW1 hairline and go bald in the vertex but that is very uncommon. You really need to go by your family history all the way up to great grandparents on both sides. And your Norwood level is unpredictable throughout your life. I thought if you reach 35 to 40 with a NW2 or less, you would be safe. Wrong!!! @tggill32, at this stage, you would not be considered balding. I chose to go one finasteride with low Norwood because I tested positive for the gene and was slowing losing density. After 16 years on finasteride I still have a low Norwood but density is not the same.
How old are you? If you have retained the same Norwood for 16 years are you sure the loss of density is not age related thinning?