You are right about how vast and dangerous the other side effects of Finasteride is. Infact I found a highly interesting study on such, I will link it below.
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You are right about how vast and dangerous the other side effects of Finasteride is. Infact I found a highly interesting study on such, I will link it below.
If Merck can cover up stuff like this, I'm highly sure they wouldn't hesitate to cover up any other negative results from studies, inflate positive results and thereby downplay the % of users experiencing negative side effects.
1100 law suits!!! And this was only from America!! I mean a law suit is a lot of effort, 95% of people who have issues with a drug wouldn't take the effort to resort to going through a whole law suit. Maybe at best a small percentage will maybe post their negative experiences online or on hair loss forums. So imagine how many other people would actually be experiencing side effects from Finasteride.
People need to know this truth!!!!!
"More than 1,100 Propecia-related lawsuits filed across the U.S. against Merck were consolidated before Judge Cogan in so-called multidistrict litigation (MDL). Merck agreed to settle most of them last year for $4.3 million, to be divided among the plaintiffs. Prior to the settlement, plaintiffs’ lawyers cited internal company communications to allege that in revisions to the drug’s original label, Merck understated the number of men who experienced sexual symptoms in clinical trials, and how long those symptoms lasted. Merck settled before responding to the allegation in court."
So much for all that bullshit about only a "small amount" get side effects on Finasteride lol.
U.S. court let Merck hide secrets about popular drug's risks
Lawsuits claim baldness drug Propecia causes sex problems, depression. The judge sealed evidence – viewed by Reuters – suggesting the maker downplayed risks. A widow wants the truth out.
www.reuters.com
1100 law suits!!! And this was only from America!! I mean a law suit is a lot of effort, 95% of people who have issues with a drug wouldn't take the effort to resort to going through a whole law suit. Maybe at best a small percentage will maybe post their negative experiences online or on hair loss forums. So imagine how many other people would actually be experiencing side effects from Finasteride.
People need to know this truth!!!!!
"More than 1,100 Propecia-related lawsuits filed across the U.S. against Merck were consolidated before Judge Cogan in so-called multidistrict litigation (MDL). Merck agreed to settle most of them last year for $4.3 million, to be divided among the plaintiffs. Prior to the settlement, plaintiffs’ lawyers cited internal company communications to allege that in revisions to the drug’s original label, Merck understated the number of men who experienced sexual symptoms in clinical trials, and how long those symptoms lasted. Merck settled before responding to the allegation in court."
Reuters asks judge to release secret Propecia documents
Reuters asked a U.S. judge on Thursday to unseal documents filed in court regarding potential risks associated with Propecia, Merck & Co's popular baldness drug.
www.reuters.com
So much for all that bullshit about only a "small amount" get side effects on Finasteride lol.
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According to Wikipedia there's 9 million prescriptions of Finasteride in 2017. Probably even 10 million by now.
According to www.drugs.com, about 10% of Finasteride users get side effects (that's before the law suit was won against Merck for downplaying the amount of Finasteride users who experienced side effects).
But let's just work with 10% for calculation purposes.
10% of 10 million people is 1 MILLION people who have side effects on Finasteride. I actually don't even care whether the people who get side effects on Finasteride are a Majority or Minority.
For ONE MILLION people in the USA alone to get side effects on Finasteride is a damn big number!
I genuinely can't believe some people essentially said initially that ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED *law suits* for only ONE drug is a small amount ?????????!! Remember, even if it is a small % of lawsuits, it doesn't mean it's a small number. 1100 is far too many.
Even 5 law suits for one product or drug is a lot. 10 is something to be concerned about. 100 is something definitely wrong. And 1000 is something undeniably wrong.
And btw, this is only 1100 from America. And I don't know for how many years that number hasn't been updated, it's surely much more than that by now.
*Furthermore, 1100 is not the only number of people who had side effects, it's only the number of people who had the time and the financial and legal means to open a LAW SUIT. The majority of Finasteride users who experience side effects don't have the finances or time to open such lawsuits which are also time consuming. 1100 Law suits are also not the only amount that were filed against Merck, but are the amount that were WON against Merck. There's probably tens of thousands more that have been filed in America alone and many of which have not been dealt with as yet. *.
I mean a law suit is a lot of effort and hassle, I'd say easily more realistically 99.9% of people who have issues with a drug wouldn't take the effort to resort to going through a whole law suit. Maybe at best a small percentage will maybe post their negative experiences online or on hair loss forums. So imagine how many other people would actually be experiencing side effects from Finasteride.
Assuming 99.9% of people don't file law suits and don't have the time and effort to follow through with them.
Then only 0.1% files lawsuits, which sounds more realistic.
If 0.1% = 1100 law suits:
And 0.1% x 1000 = 100% of Finasteride users experiencing side effects.
Then, 1100 x 1000 = 1.1 MILLION Finasteride users (Approximately) in Total in America alone have side effects on Finasteride.
Which is a damn lot of people and this figure more or less matches the figure I mentioned in the beginning of the message (Whereby I said with 10 Million Finasteride prescriptions in USA, and with 10% experiencing side effects = 1 Million Finasteride users experiencing Side Effects)
According to www.drugs.com, about 10% of Finasteride users get side effects (that's before the law suit was won against Merck for downplaying the amount of Finasteride users who experienced side effects).
But let's just work with 10% for calculation purposes.
10% of 10 million people is 1 MILLION people who have side effects on Finasteride. I actually don't even care whether the people who get side effects on Finasteride are a Majority or Minority.
For ONE MILLION people in the USA alone to get side effects on Finasteride is a damn big number!
I genuinely can't believe some people essentially said initially that ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED *law suits* for only ONE drug is a small amount ?????????!! Remember, even if it is a small % of lawsuits, it doesn't mean it's a small number. 1100 is far too many.
Even 5 law suits for one product or drug is a lot. 10 is something to be concerned about. 100 is something definitely wrong. And 1000 is something undeniably wrong.
And btw, this is only 1100 from America. And I don't know for how many years that number hasn't been updated, it's surely much more than that by now.
*Furthermore, 1100 is not the only number of people who had side effects, it's only the number of people who had the time and the financial and legal means to open a LAW SUIT. The majority of Finasteride users who experience side effects don't have the finances or time to open such lawsuits which are also time consuming. 1100 Law suits are also not the only amount that were filed against Merck, but are the amount that were WON against Merck. There's probably tens of thousands more that have been filed in America alone and many of which have not been dealt with as yet. *.
I mean a law suit is a lot of effort and hassle, I'd say easily more realistically 99.9% of people who have issues with a drug wouldn't take the effort to resort to going through a whole law suit. Maybe at best a small percentage will maybe post their negative experiences online or on hair loss forums. So imagine how many other people would actually be experiencing side effects from Finasteride.
Assuming 99.9% of people don't file law suits and don't have the time and effort to follow through with them.
Then only 0.1% files lawsuits, which sounds more realistic.
If 0.1% = 1100 law suits:
And 0.1% x 1000 = 100% of Finasteride users experiencing side effects.
Then, 1100 x 1000 = 1.1 MILLION Finasteride users (Approximately) in Total in America alone have side effects on Finasteride.
Which is a damn lot of people and this figure more or less matches the figure I mentioned in the beginning of the message (Whereby I said with 10 Million Finasteride prescriptions in USA, and with 10% experiencing side effects = 1 Million Finasteride users experiencing Side Effects)
Finasteride reduces DHT in the body systemically. Blocking DHT systemically causes loads of problems.
Using Finasteride is like a woman blocking most of her estrogen and increasing test a bit too. Obviously blocking the gender specific sex hormone is going to have some sort of ramifications. To what degree is going to be individual though, and it doesn't even surprise me that some men report suffering genital shrinkage after blocking more than 70% of their DHT for a long time (and also increasing Estrogen ). I wouldn't be surprised that there's a load of other mental and physical side effects as well.
Using Finasteride is like a woman blocking most of her estrogen and increasing test a bit too. Obviously blocking the gender specific sex hormone is going to have some sort of ramifications. To what degree is going to be individual though, and it doesn't even surprise me that some men report suffering genital shrinkage after blocking more than 70% of their DHT for a long time (and also increasing Estrogen ). I wouldn't be surprised that there's a load of other mental and physical side effects as well.
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You need to find a derm who knows about hair loss, specifically of the alopecia areata variety, and get a scalp biopsy done. Only way to know for sure.
Treatments for this type of thing are unfortunately hard on the body. But JAK inhibitors can work wonders
Treatments for this type of thing are unfortunately hard on the body. But JAK inhibitors can work wonders
Due to your extreme Vitamin D deficiency that you told me about. I did alil Google search. You should definitely check out these other diseases that could be the cause of your extreme Vitamin D defiency even though you take 10 000 IU's a day in tablet form. It's obvious your body has a problem absorbing Vitamin D because you are clearly giving it enough.
You need to do a lot more research on the various issues mentioned in the screenshot I attached.
You need to do a lot more research on the various issues mentioned in the screenshot I attached.
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No, it isn't. Not getting morning woods everyday is pretty common specially after your teen years or early 20's. I don't take finasteride nor have any healthy issue. My diet is good. Still, I don't have frequent morning woods for about 5 or 6 years. Actually, I don't remmeber if I even have morning woods at all. Still can get it up whenever I want.
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Diffuse Alopecia AREATA it's also a issue that isn't disclosed at all, and I don't know why. Search for this.
It also looks like a severe case of DUPA. Your asian hair type may also exacerbates it and show more scalp. I have DUPA but my hairtype helps hiding it.
It also looks like a severe case of DUPA. Your asian hair type may also exacerbates it and show more scalp. I have DUPA but my hairtype helps hiding it.
Are you on finasteride or were you ever in it?
Regardless, nocturnal penile tumescence AKA morning wood happen if there is a normal blood flow to the penis. You don’t have erectile dysfunction and I never said you did. You can stimulate yourself to get an erection but you have poor blood flow. There’s definitely an underlying health problem or you’re taking finasteride.
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No.
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I cant have an erection without direct stimulation. I still have undesired or random erections. Just not as soon as I wake up.
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I dunno man, I rarely wake up with morning woods after I turned 21 or so. Once or twice a week sometimes. Most morning woods don't happen while you're awake so the only way to know for sure would be doing an erection self-test if you're that anxious. And I stopped having undesired erections after I finished puberty. I wouldn't put too much thought into this stuff if I were you.
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Exactly. Nocturnal erections are called like that for a reason. They happen more in the deep sleep or REM phase than in the late stages of sleep. I haven't waken up too early in ages, maybe that's a reason too. By the time I wake up the noctural erections are long gone.
I do understand that some people here like NickyA and Will be an Egg in 5 years feel like morning woods aren't always an issue. But I do believe there's a lot of truth in what Jeju is saying too. Sure it won't be a golden rule for everyone, because nothing really is standard for everyone but I do believe that in a good amount of people, lack of morning woods is a sign of poor blood flow to the penis and that is an issue and indication as to why some people do have erectile dysfunction. I would agree that for those who don't react positively to Finasteride, it would only make their sexual function much worse.
Fair points on both sides.
Fair points on both sides.
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Hate to break it to you man, but it’s over. I’ve seen newborn babies with more hair than that. The absolute best case scenario for you is to keep what you still have left. Sadly, when it’s that diffused you’re not going to be a good candidate for a hair transplant and anti androgens are your only hope. If your goal is to avoid those medications via a hair transplant, you would be throwing your money down the drain as they go hand in hand with each other. The synergy of the two is what determines your overall result; without the support of an AA you will be kneecapping yourself.
You may feel differently, but personally, (given this starting point), I’m not sure it would be worth the money and time commitment involved. That being said, the only person who can tell you what your hair is worth is you.
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Don't listen to people like this. Their just unhappy with their own lives. Your hairline is probably wayyyy better than this guy's. You just have lots of diffuse thinning on the top.
Also, this guy is a troll. His username says it too, "Here for the lulz". His just here for banter. Probably some bald guy who is miserable and hates life coz he lost his hair so now he is hating on others battling hairloss and telling them there's no hope.
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Blowing smoke up peoples asses doesn’t do them any favors. If you don’t tell him how it is, he’ll delay treatment even longer and he, like most around here, will be left wishing they had acted sooner.