rate the hair density of this 60 year old man

[Catagen]

I don't think a juvenile hairline looks weird in older guys at all

Look at this

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Why do juvenile hairlines look so good and mature ones so bad. What is the reasoning behind this?

 

[Catagen]

What is the evolutionary reason low hairlines look so good. Why does the human subconscious love it and why does it hate high ones?

 

[justinbieberscombover]

What is the evolutionary reason low hairlines look so good. Why does the human subconscious love it and why does it hate high ones?

It's rather how it frames the whole face, makes it look more proportionate and harmonious.

 

[Will Be an Egg in 5 years]

What is the evolutionary reason low hairlines look so good. Why does the human subconscious love it and why does it hate high ones?

I don't think is evolutionary, it's just the way it is. I think maybe it's contrast between the hair and skin. The higher the hairline, more empty spaces on the face. I don't know

Even a mature hairline can destroy your looks

 

[BurningCoals]

Baldness is generally a problem for whites including Semites and perhaps some from British India but is not a feature of life in Bolivia or Guatemala or Siberia or among the Inuit or among black Africans. So most of us on here are white with some Asian folks mostly. So while the experimental meds guys go looking for solutions, guess what? Nobody else needs them. Baldness is hard-wired in whites just like manes in lions or antlers in deer so why all of the whining from the bald guys who refuse HRT? I just tune them out and every post that reads "Exciting new drug makes it to stage three will seek approval in 2032. What a waste of time! Your beards are your version of scalp hair so either go the HRT route or shut up.... Not talking to you but those guys are ....

Eh, I've seen plenty of balding Africans. A friend of mine for example is half Congolese/Thai, and he seems to be losing his hair. His dad and basically all the men from the Congolese side that I've seen were bald. I've seens quite a few balding Asians as well. It seems to be most common among Europeans and Middle-Easterners, but people are acting like it's some exclusive white man's disease, while I see a lot of non-Europeans whom are also balding.

 

[BetaBoy]

Yeah it's unbeliavable. My father had a similar hairline but maybe was a NW1. This dude is a straight NW0 nine years old hairline.

He may well have a nw1 to some peoples eyes but the guy most definitely has MPΒ with significant thinning. The most impressive specimens are only found in the top 1% of the 1%, those who have no expression of ΑGΑ genes in the scalp. I'm talking getting to 80+ without any discernible change in hair count/density/pattern since puberty, there are only a very small pool of people who fit that criteria, Ronald Reagan being the only example I personally know of.

 

[BetaBoy]

And my father at 83, Marine Corps Son of a .....

What zero recession and juvenile density that would rival a castrati?

 

[BurningCoals]

People are mixing genes. That won't work to disprove the thesis. People in Guatemala who marry whites then may bald, of course. I posted something that I found about baldness originating all around the Mediterranean Sea and then it cascades outwards so the closer to Europe, Levant and North Africa, the more baldness found. I had many Central American clients since I speak Spanish and some of them had perfect child-like hairlines. They were really short though so there's always something to confront us in life....

Amerindians and some other people whom have been isolated from the outside world for most of history don't really seem to develop male pattern baldness, I was more just critisizing the notion that it's only found in Europeans.

 

[Catagen]

He may well have a nw1 to some peoples eyes but the guy most definitely has MPΒ with significant thinning. The most impressive specimens are only found in the top 1% of the 1%, those who have no expression of ΑGΑ genes in the scalp. I'm talking getting to 80+ without any discernible change in hair count/density/pattern since puberty, there are only a very small pool of people who fit that criteria, Ronald Reagan being the only example I personally know of.

Indeed the hairline is there but hair in general doesn't look like it did when he was young. People will say for plenty of balding guys they have full heads of hair but the reality is they lost over 50% of density.

Baldness is hard-wired in whites just like manes in lions or antlers in deer so why all of the whining from the bald guys who refuse HRT? I just tune them out and every post that reads "Exciting new drug makes it to stage three will seek approval in 2032. What a waste of time! Your beards are your version of scalp hair so either go the HRT route or shut up....

Clearly there is a bunch of whites, over a half of them who make it to 40s with a NW2/3 which is beyond ideal, I dont think baldness would bother any white guy if almost every white man was NW5 by 25, which is not the case of course.

HRT literally makes your brain female. It messes so much with your cells so much its unreal and not understood.
Quite simply put plenty of men can enjoy NW1 hair without being hormonally women, but rather the opposite, so why wouldnt it be possible for a balding male.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Europeans just fucked up the world while colonializing with their shitty balding gene F

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Indeed the hairline is there but hair in general doesn't look like it did when he was young. People will say for plenty of balding guys they have full heads of hair but the reality is they lost over 50% of density.

Clearly there is a bunch of whites, over a half of them who make it to 40s with a NW2/3 which is beyond ideal, I dont think baldness would bother any white guy if almost every white man was NW5 by 25, which is not the case of course.

HRT literally makes your brain female. It messes so much with your cells so much its unreal and not understood.
Quite simply put plenty of men can enjoy NW1 hair without being hormonally women, but rather the opposite, so why wouldnt it be possible for a balding male.

Its about your androgen sensitivity within the AR in your pilosebaceous gland. Thats it. The best way you can deal with it, without altering your hormonal profile is deactivating androgen signaling in scalp tissue and allowing E do its thing. E is much better than T for peripheral tissues like skin tissue. Now we gotta figure out how to elevate E locally without f*****g up our endocrine system. And thats just NOT POSSIBLE.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Eh. They aren't worth it. The more they bald and fail to reproduce they quicker they are eradicated from the gene pool....

I hope so! Bald people, or people with balding gene should legally not reproduce. We need a law for that! _Hands down_ lol

 

[Will Be an Egg in 5 years]

I hope so! Bald people, or people with balding gene should legally not reproduce. We need a law for that! _Hands down_ lol

Well, that LITERALLY would be the only cure/solution for hairloss.

Avoiding balding people and women with bald genes reprodution.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Well, that LITERALLY would be the only cure/solution for hairloss.

Avoiding balding people and women with bald genes reprodution.

Yeah true, tho that wouldn't be kinda politically and socially OK, but yeah, the real deal. Literally, within 2-3 generations, balding gene is eleminated. Lol. But that means, literally 80% of men's gens and 60% of woman's will vanish, but hey, lets prefere the PERFECT genes out there lol.

 

[Haironnu]

I wish I had my grandfather hair genetics. man was Norwood 2 at his 80s

 

[Wolf Pack]

He has the face of an old man and the hair and hairstyle of a little kid lol. His hair is great but he needs a more age appropriate haircut imo

Yep, definitely. TBH I think only a few men look good enough at that age (in terms of looking attractive to a wider female group) and looks, style and full hair go an even longer way then. This is becase the package is rarer in middle age whereas in your 20s and 30s there are enough good looking guys, the top 20% usually but depends where one lives. In middle age, probably 5% of guys look good. I've occasionally seen some women in their 20s and 30s like an older man but usually he has a bit of Clooney/Pitt/Grillo about him. Natural slightly masculine yet handsome face, great body and hairstyle, overall style (beard/clothes) etc. Ageing signs don't matter then as much.

The guy linked in the OP is not really attractive and old looking but worse than that he has a weird hairstyle to finish him off. It looks creepy and someone with no fashion sense. Guess despite being a prominent coach, he's still stuck in the 1970s.

The only way you can make a fringe work are on full heads with a low/medium hairline and fade the sides. If the hairline is recessed and hair is coming from the top of the scalp with thick sides it looks sh*t, grandpa combover or homemade. I have slight wavy hair so the fringe works well but I would never do it despite being young enough to pull it off with the fade. Reason being the hair may look like a wig due to my overall thickness and also it's masculine to show the hairline and face at any age past 16 lol. For guys in their 40s and above, the hairline really can carry them. The style for older guys just needs to be relatively youthful without it being overdone, subtle fade, side parting or slick back will do just fine, even some nice discreet highlights.

That image is just another reminder to me to always live my life to the full and by that I don't mean just dating around but literally doing anything. Whether travelling, setting up a family, creating great memories with friends, it seems more rewarding with youth on your side. Sad but true. Who knows what lies ahead at retirement age but being fulfilled earlier in life makes you appreciate the phases of life rather than always be looking back, at least for me.

Also even if you crop him up to his hair and forehead, you can still tell it's the hair of an older guy. Not sure how but when you've see enough transplants you can roughly tell the age of the guy. Even when you remove skin ageing or greys you can still almost always tell, I think the hair "quality" or "shine" whatever changes with age especially post 50. Exceptions are a few that I've seen but usually it's people who started with tremendous hair to begin with so the decrease isn't as noticeable. Small problem

 

[Will Be an Egg in 5 years]

Here you can see just a little less density and combing the fringe to the sides fix it.

 

[Capone]

Same as Mick Jagger and all those other aging rockstars who look like relics. I'm sorry @Matt3535 it might look great to y'all because you value hair so much but the average person will mistake it for a wig lol

Skin is really important, that glass skin is where it’s at. 7 steps lol

 

[Will Be an Egg in 5 years]

Skin is really important, that glass skin is where it’s at. 7 steps lol

Yeah but it's impossible to have smooth/young skin forever without surgery, no matter how many products or how much care you take. Even if you genetically have a natural good/young skin (my case and my father-brothers case) it will age eventually someday. I don't know a single person past the age of 60-65 with naturally soft/smooth skin.

 

[Capone]

Yeah but it's impossible to have smooth/young skin forever without surgery, no matter how many products or how much care you take. Even if you genetically have a natural good/young skin (my case and my father-brothers case) it will age eventually someday. I don't know a single person past the age of 60-65 with naturally soft/smooth skin.

Yes but I’ve seen old age men with no crows feet etc.. forehead lines age people so much along with those nasolabial lines.