ray peat and reducing pgd2 - experimental ideas that I am reading about

[qerqrqwrqwr]

1) avoiding all nuts/seeds/grains/legumes/avocados, olives and oils of the aforementioned. also avoiding all fish oil and oily fish.
why ? to deplete the body of PUFA, the cause of pgd2. PUFA are the biggest problem we face.
plain white bread with just 3 ingredients may be acceptable as starch. avoid vegetable oils.
white rice is acceptable.

2) limiting flesh meat but eating fatty gelatin rich cuts.
gelatin (glycine/proline/lysine) reduce inflammation that can cause hair loss.
(cysteine, methionine ,tryptohpan) - also converts to serotonin
in flesh and protein powders cause inflammation.


3) if it supports thyroid, use it. if not, avoid it. the goal is to support and maintain the thyroid throughout the day

burn sugar/not fat
more calcium than phosphate (from grains) . calcium is needed for the thyroid
more gelatin than flesh meat, see point 2
no fish oil or PUFA, coconut oil/butter instead
carrot a day to reduce estrogen
white sugar to support thyroid
limit excess iron

These ideas will make more sense once you have read his free online articles, where he gives reasons and logic behind each point

I will experiment and -re update in a few months.


these ideas were originally simplified by Danny Roddy,
pay respect to the original ideas and read their writings, even though at first they are esoteric and will cause cognitive dissonance
they are easy to find on google, especially the articles on pufa and fish oil

sugar- not a problem
dairy - dairy, even pasteurised, not a problem
meat - not a problem. fatty cuts preferred
coffee/chocolate - irrelevant, but the caffeine is good

PUFA - the problem. and correlates with hair loss

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=419742

admittedly I have got some of this wrong, however I wanted to point people in the right direction that they can research themselves

 

[qerqrqwrqwr]

also

parathyroid hormone - consume more calcium than phosphate
serotonin - deplete with a mix of taurine/l -theanine. avoiding flesh / eating organs/gelatin.
estrogen - eat one raw carrot a day, grated. also consume an easy to digest diet
prolactin - lower with salt. also consume more calcium than phosphate
pgd2 - minimise PUFA oils. white rice is okay. french bread with refined white flour is acceptable. the more refined a grain, the easier to digest

eating more sugar to support the thyroid - not burning fat
deplete tryptophan too - avoid flesh, bananas and foods high in it. converts to serotonin. eat organs, not steak

avoiding (cysteine, methionine ,tryptohpan)

consider supplements

vitamin e
coconut oil
niacin
aspirin

pregnenelone/progesterone topically/DHEA


http://180degreehealth.com/reducing-serotonin-levels/

 

[kirk]

There is a guy named Danny Roddy.

He is an ardent practitioner of Ray Peat diet philosophy.

He wrote a book called 'hair like a fox'.

I followed the advice of this book for 1 year.

I lost ground.

Ray Peat can not help male pattern baldness.

 

[Wolf Pack]

There is a guy named Danny Roddy.

He is an ardent practitioner of Ray Peat diet philosophy.

He wrote a book called 'hair like a fox'.

I followed the advice of this book for 1 year.

I lost ground.

Ray Peat can not help male pattern baldness.

I read that as Dr Reddy's. Clearly I know where my mind is. opsblush:

 

[qerqrqwrqwr]

There is a guy named Danny Roddy.

He is an ardent practitioner of Ray Peat diet philosophy.

He wrote a book called 'hair like a fox'.

I followed the advice of this book for 1 year.

I lost ground.

Ray Peat can not help male pattern baldness.

I know. I agree with the book by danny roddy. that low thyroid, estrogen and prolactin and serotonin cause hair loss.

have you done lab tests for

TSH,
prolactin,
PTH,
Vitamin D,

serotonin
estrogen
also DHT ?

if not, I would advise you to do so

also, what was your diet. that's a main part too.

look at the dietary suggestions above, like eating organs, not flesh, more sugar to support the thyroid etc.

the work by them is complex so I will try to simplify it if I can. also look at the re-edited post.

 

[qerqrqwrqwr]

Ray Peat after me: "Ray Peat is a quack." /thread.

don't knock it until you try it. which part did you disagree with ?

my suggestion was simple

lab test for

TSH,
prolactin,
PTH,
Vitamin D,

serotonin
estrogen
also DHT

do that if you can

The methods I mentioned are ways to get some down, or up.

 

[qerqrqwrqwr]

I've made my argument.

I'm not even saying I am right.

this is the alternative board after all.

if you don't like a topic, move on, and find something else

- - - Updated - - -

Ray Peat is advocated by nut jobs on forums like Immortal Hair. This tells everything.

what's wrong with immortalhair ?

what precisely, is peat wrong about ?

what exactly, be specific, are immortalhair wrong about ?

yes, they get a few things wrong, so what.

they have never said DHT doesn't cause hair loss. they just look at other options

 

[qerqrqwrqwr]

There are no other options.

okay.

 

[psyhotria]

Ray Peat after me: "Ray Peat is a quack." /thread.

Ray Peat is a quack!

PUFA - the problem. and correlates with hair loss

No, this is not the case for unadulterated PUFA (EFA). Only rancid, heated (refined) PUFA (EFA), and trans fat is the problem.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Ray Peat after me: "Ray Peat is a quack." /thread.

:laugh:

I never come in this section normally, with good reason.

 

[kirk]

I know. I agree with the book by danny roddy. that low thyroid, estrogen and prolactin and serotonin cause hair loss.

have you done lab tests for

TSH,
prolactin,
PTH,
Vitamin D,

serotonin
estrogen
also DHT ?

if not, I would advise you to do so

also, what was your diet. that's a main part too.

look at the dietary suggestions above, like eating organs, not flesh, more sugar to support the thyroid etc.

the work by them is complex so I will try to simplify it if I can. also look at the re-edited post.

Yes I followed very closely. I did the carrot thing, made bone broth etc...

Even in the best case scenario. If someone designed and followed the perfect diet, it would do absolutely nothing for male pattern baldness.

 

[qerqrqwrqwr]

Yes I followed very closely. I did the carrot thing, made bone broth etc...

Even in the best case scenario. If someone designed and followed the perfect diet, it would do absolutely nothing for male pattern baldness.

I think it depends.

anyway

I will continue my experiments

and will acquire the following

serotonin depleting medication
and tryptohpan depleting medication

 

[alscarmuzza]

Depleting serotonin would give you a case of clinical depression.

 

[kirk]

I think it depends.

anyway

I will continue my experiments

and will acquire the following

serotonin depleting medication
and tryptohpan depleting medication

I applaud your resolve, but you are wasting valuable time.

if you are in fact losing your hair, you will regret not getting on the proper treatments.

Trust logic, science and the evidence of mass experimentation.

 

[Wolf Pack]

This is Ray Peat by the way:

His weird diet theories didn't prevent him from balding.

Move on folks, and stick to science as kirk said.

Lol. That's the way I was heading. Having said that, if he has a transplant, he has full hair. Simple fix and perfect for his age.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

I applaud your resolve, but you are wasting valuable time.

if you are in fact losing your hair, you will regret not getting on the proper treatments.

Trust logic, science and the evidence of mass experimentation.

This, but people just don't get it.

 

[hellouser]

This thread is full of lies.

DIET DOES NOT AFFECT HAIR LOSS OR GROWTH.

 

[alebaba]

This is Ray Peat by the way:

His weird diet theories didn't prevent him from balding.

Move on folks, and stick to science as kirk said.

He started his diet, when he was around 50 , I think. Ive been peating for about 5 months now, I don't shed anymore but no regrowth so far.

This thread is full of lies.

DIET DOES NOT AFFECT HAIR LOSS OR GROWTH.

uhh, yes it does.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Most(if not all) of the guys preaching bogus treatments have full heads of hair. Nobody with significant hair loss would waste their time with this type of nonsense.

 

[psyhotria]

uhh, yes it does.

Of course it does. Diet effects every single thing in one's system. Just read on the gut-brain-skin axis, i.e. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3038963/