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RE: my 16 year old son is losing his hair.

CCS

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Q:
I am new here to your forum and was reading some of your posts, and I need some help with my son's hair loss. I have done nothing but natural alternatives, because of my son's age. I truly believe that the accutane he was prescribed by my *** of a doctor started this mess. Regardless he now dealing with male pattern baldness @16 probably a nor#2 and homopathic , herbal solutions, have not ceased the hair loss. I would be interested to know after reading my posts what you think? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I highly doubt the accutane caused the hair loss. I'd have to look on http://www.altbaldspot.com to find out what other ways hair loss can start, but usually if a non-DHT factor causes it, it will be patchy or random or over the whole head. The pattern of losing hair in the temples and hair line and/or the vertex is a strong indicator of male pattern baldness. It can easily start at age 16. Mine was earlier than that. It is genetic.

As for treatments, propecia is OK if he has fully developed physically. I don't know if propecia would prevent development, but it would probably post pone it to maybe age 21 or 25 instead of 17 or 18.

As for topicals, most "herbal remedies" are scams that use saw palmetto or borage seed oil or other nice smelling stuff like joboba which do nothing. Some contain just enough minoxidil so they can claim they are FDA approved.

Without propecia, he will have to use a combination of topicals to slow his hair loss down until he is 18.

1) Have him wash his hair with 1% nizoral shampoo 3 times a week and leave it in for 5 minutes before rinsing. It only takes a 1/2 tea spoon, so you can make it last.
2) Have him apply 2mL of Tromin to the whole future male pattern baldness area every other day, and 2mL of Folligen diluted 50% with water on the off days, after the shower. It will dry in 10 minutes. A minoxidil droper is good for this.
3) Order Revivogen. The free fatty acids can inhibit 5ar to some extent, like propecia would, but only in the scalp. Just get the vials, not the shampoo or conditioner. I'm trying to get the fatty acids cheaper, and will post when I think I have the ideal solution. There are no systemic effects.
4) Minoxidil is optional, and is $19 for 3 months at walmart. It will give him more hair, but it is messy and must be used consistently and is not a miracle at all. It will not slow his baldness, so I don't think it is necessary to bother.
5) 5% spironolactone cream at http://www.minoxidil.com will block the androgen receptors in his scalp to some effect so DHT can't bind as well to them. There are no systemic effects, but it reacts with minoxidil and will stink if applied right after the minoxidil. It needs to be applied twice a day, and is white and messy. Another option is Eucapil at http://www.eucapil.com, but it is expensive and can't be used unless the scalp is very dry and he can't get it wet for 4 hours after applying it. It lasts all day, but is probably still weak compared to propecia, since few people on here talk about it.

If you look on these boards, many people will put down any of these treatments. But most of them are people who just use these treatments by themself. You need to combine them to be effective enough. I doubt he will be able to apply spironolactone cream to his whole scalp. Spreading stuff evenly will be a challenge.
 

Apoc

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Accutane can cause hairloss and it can be quite serious. Especialy if the kid was prescribed dosages higher than 20mg/day.
 

westcovinajoe

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Collegechemistrystudent,

I have kept quiet about my opinions of your posts for some time, but to post as though you are an authority, especially with a username that sends some message of alleged knowledge you should really be more careful.

A quick search on the net will tell you that accutane can in fact cause hairloss.

Many of your posts seem to be made only to increase your post count as you do not respond to replies. As of this post you have posted 1,719 times since July 2 of this year!

That is an average of 33.05 times a day!

If you are going to act as an authority figure here, please be correct.

Joe.
 

CCS

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westcovina:

i know your post count is not hight, but you should still try to be correct before saying such stuff when my post almost right above yours proves you wrong.

I highly doubt the accutane caused the hair loss. I'd have to look on http://www.altbaldspot.com to find out what other ways hair loss can start, but usually if a non-DHT factor causes it, it will be patchy or random or over the whole head.

i think i was very clear that that was just my opinion and that I would have to do research elsewhere to see how else besides male pattern baldness his hair loss could have started.

The reason I don't respond to most replies is I don't browse every thread often. Most of them don't interest me. Yes, people do hunt me down and ask for my input, and there is nothing i can do about that. And i do post my responses if i took the time to write them, because if i don't i know i will get asked them again 50 times.

now can anyone here tell us what kind of hair loss accutane causes? Does it look just like male pattern baldness?
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
westcovina:

i know your post count is not hight, but you should still try to be correct before saying such stuff when my post almost right above yours proves you wrong.

I highly doubt the accutane caused the hair loss. I'd have to look on http://www.altbaldspot.com to find out what other ways hair loss can start, but usually if a non-DHT factor causes it, it will be patchy or random or over the whole head.

i think i was very clear that that was just my opinion and that I would have to do research elsewhere to see how else besides male pattern baldness his hair loss could have started.

The reason I don't respond to most replies is I don't browse every thread often. Most of them don't interest me. Yes, people do hunt me down and ask for my input, and there is nothing i can do about that. And i do post my responses if i took the time to write them, because if i don't i know i will get asked them again 50 times.

now can anyone here tell us what kind of hair loss accutane causes? Does it look just like male pattern baldness?
it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks like male pattern baldness
 

Apoc

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Accutane can cause hairloss in women and in men not just people with male pattern baldness. If you have male pattern baldness then you will be losing hair much much faster. I took accutane and lost half of my hairline hair in 1 month which never grew back.
 

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bubka said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
westcovina:

i know your post count is not hight, but you should still try to be correct before saying such stuff when my post almost right above yours proves you wrong.

I highly doubt the accutane caused the hair loss. I'd have to look on http://www.altbaldspot.com to find out what other ways hair loss can start, but usually if a non-DHT factor causes it, it will be patchy or random or over the whole head.

i think i was very clear that that was just my opinion and that I would have to do research elsewhere to see how else besides male pattern baldness his hair loss could have started.

The reason I don't respond to most replies is I don't browse every thread often. Most of them don't interest me. Yes, people do hunt me down and ask for my input, and there is nothing i can do about that. And i do post my responses if i took the time to write them, because if i don't i know i will get asked them again 50 times.

now can anyone here tell us what kind of hair loss accutane causes? Does it look just like male pattern baldness?
it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks like male pattern baldness
"it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks "
BASED ON WHAT DO YOU SAY THAT ?! it reduces sebum glands size I think, how can that nake male pattern baldness HAPPEN FASTER?
 

bubka

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HARM1 said:
bubka said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
westcovina:

i know your post count is not hight, but you should still try to be correct before saying such stuff when my post almost right above yours proves you wrong.

I highly doubt the accutane caused the hair loss. I'd have to look on http://www.altbaldspot.com to find out what other ways hair loss can start, but usually if a non-DHT factor causes it, it will be patchy or random or over the whole head.

i think i was very clear that that was just my opinion and that I would have to do research elsewhere to see how else besides male pattern baldness his hair loss could have started.

The reason I don't respond to most replies is I don't browse every thread often. Most of them don't interest me. Yes, people do hunt me down and ask for my input, and there is nothing i can do about that. And i do post my responses if i took the time to write them, because if i don't i know i will get asked them again 50 times.

now can anyone here tell us what kind of hair loss accutane causes? Does it look just like male pattern baldness?
it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks like male pattern baldness
"it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks "
BASED ON WHAT DO YOU SAY THAT ?! it reduces sebum glands size I think, how can that nake male pattern baldness HAPPEN FASTER?
I am getting this from consumer advocate Spencer David Kobren, it's in his book (not that i have read it) and he mentions this frequently on his radio show as many people ask about it
 

HARM1

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bubka said:
HARM1 said:
bubka said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
westcovina:

i know your post count is not hight, but you should still try to be correct before saying such stuff when my post almost right above yours proves you wrong.

I highly doubt the accutane caused the hair loss. I'd have to look on http://www.altbaldspot.com to find out what other ways hair loss can start, but usually if a non-DHT factor causes it, it will be patchy or random or over the whole head.

i think i was very clear that that was just my opinion and that I would have to do research elsewhere to see how else besides male pattern baldness his hair loss could have started.

The reason I don't respond to most replies is I don't browse every thread often. Most of them don't interest me. Yes, people do hunt me down and ask for my input, and there is nothing i can do about that. And i do post my responses if i took the time to write them, because if i don't i know i will get asked them again 50 times.

now can anyone here tell us what kind of hair loss accutane causes? Does it look just like male pattern baldness?
it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks like male pattern baldness
"it can accelerate the onset of genetic male pattern baldness, yes, it looks "
BASED ON WHAT DO YOU SAY THAT ?! it reduces sebum glands size I think, how can that nake male pattern baldness HAPPEN FASTER?
I am getting this from consumer advocate Spencer David Kobren, it's in his book (not that i have read it) and he mentions this frequently on his radio show as many people ask about it

Well, there's no scince cehind such a claim. If that were true i'd be making millions from a law suit....
 

bubka

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has there been any science though... i mean besides many people reporting male pattern baldness and fmp soon after starting that drug?
 

HARM1

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bubka said:
has there been any science though... i mean besides many people reporting male pattern baldness and fmp soon after starting that drug?

Well, no, that's what i'm saying....
 
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