hanginginthewire
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February or March really makes no difference, I think we know we will be sitting here on March 31st conjecturing about why no results have been released.
For anybody balding that finasteride has done nothing to help, i suggest you stop reading this thread as by the time it comes out it will be worthless to you if you are nw2 or more at the moment. As replicel said the earliest date in japan is 2019 so add another couple of years for rest of the world. Sorry for being so pessimistic but its the truth. Personally i hope brotzu/fidia surprise us all in the next year.
Pedantic much. Would you agree my point still stands though.They actually said earliest is the end of 2018
Yes they are, for our purposes. Preserved follicles still have to cycle normally and dermal papillas still have to send all the necessary signals for this to happen. You could say they're different in that preserving the follicle doesn't need the original formation we see maintained through telogen but my previous point still stands. Plus, I think forming a follicle has more to do with proper structure of the cells. When Tsuji tried injecting a bunch of dp's and stem cells to grow hair it didn't work, he had to keep them closely together in collagen gel. Replicel isn't doing that, so unless dsc cells have properties I'm not aware of, like 1 of them multiplying into numerous dp's in the skin and recruiting epithelial stem cells, then it seems reasonable to expect replicel not to grow new hairs.Growing new follicles and preserving your already existing hairs are not the same biological task.
Replicel just tweeted this:
Next week looks very exciting.
For Replicel everything is exciting. Future is exciting, data is exciting, February is veeeeery exciting.
this hairloss game is brutal man.
Follica has been very exciting:
"We are very excited about the progress and are pushing forward with our programs. Everything is going very well and management, the board, and the Scientific Advisory Board are all extremely encouraged by our scientific progress and results."—Follica Statement, January 2010
"Things are going really well—it’s really exciting." —Daphne Zohar Follica Co-Founder, June 2010
and Histogen—exciting:
"With the exciting data we have gained over the past year, particularly in hair and cancer applications, Histogen has regained a strong position with investors and potential partners[...]" Eileen Brandt Histogen spokeswoman, November 2010
"We are excited to build on the momentum Histogen has created over the past two years[...]"—Gail K. Naughton CEO, November 2010
...SEVEN YEARS LATER, Replicel is in on the excitement:
"We are now prepared for what is − without question or hyperbole − the single most exciting year in the Company’s history." —Lee Buckler Replicel CEO, 2017 Statement
And Cassiopea (Breezula CB-03-01):
"2015 was an exciting and productive year"—Diana Harbort, Cassiopea CEO 2016 Statement
And Hairclone:
"2017 will be a very exciting one for us here" —Hairclone Tweet, January 2017
I don't know how many more years of this excitement I can take!
Follica has been very exciting:
"We are very excited about the progress and are pushing forward with our programs. Everything is going very well and management, the board, and the Scientific Advisory Board are all extremely encouraged by our scientific progress and results."—Follica Statement, January 2010
"Things are going really well—it’s really exciting." —Daphne Zohar Follica Co-Founder, June 2010
and Histogen—exciting:
"With the exciting data we have gained over the past year, particularly in hair and cancer applications, Histogen has regained a strong position with investors and potential partners[...]" Eileen Brandt Histogen spokeswoman, November 2010
"We are excited to build on the momentum Histogen has created over the past two years[...]"—Gail K. Naughton CEO, November 2010
...SEVEN YEARS LATER, Replicel is in on the excitement:
"We are now prepared for what is − without question or hyperbole − the single most exciting year in the Company’s history." —Lee Buckler Replicel CEO, 2017 Statement
And Cassiopea (Breezula CB-03-01):
"2015 was an exciting and productive year"—Diana Harbort, Cassiopea CEO 2016 Statement
And Hairclone:
"2017 will be a very exciting one for us here" —Hairclone Tweet, January 2017
I don't know how many more years of this excitement I can take!
I feel liberated nowWell now that @MM87 has trolled and brought to light failure after failure occurring for the last 10 years, it's safe to say I've lost all hope lmfao
Well now that @MM87 has trolled and brought to light failure after failure occurring for the last 10 years, it's safe to say I've lost all hope lmfao
Indeed! You are so right. But what can we do about it?And reminders like that are exactly what we need. We're still doing the exact same thing as before but expecting different results. We can't possibly claim we mind balding when we've done absolutely nothing differently to bring about change.
As today's treatments in development start to crumble we just look for new ones to latch onto, reset the countdown and that's it. Rinse and repeat. Exactly what baldies have been doing since forever. Getting by on illusions until they die -- bald.
Choose:But what can we do about it?
You stepped on my feetChoose:
1)Start a f*****g movement to raise awareness of the problem (there are plenty of ridiculous ones and TBH ours will not look as ridiculous as nofapsters). If it gets popular, it will show the demand.
2)Get rich and fund your own treatment. (Like Sammumed dude did)
3)Make a f*****g kickstarter to fund a treatment (Somebody will probably take your money and run away and it is always risky, it may not even work).
4)Waiting game (Wait for Brotzu, Histogen, Follica, etc., etc.. until your youth is over or you die)
5)Cry in a corner or pretend that you don't give a f*** about balding.
Yes they are, for our purposes. Preserved follicles still have to cycle normally and dermal papillas still have to send all the necessary signals for this to happen. You could say they're different in that preserving the follicle doesn't need the original formation we see maintained through telogen but my previous point still stands. Plus, I think forming a follicle has more to do with proper structure of the cells. When Tsuji tried injecting a bunch of dp's and stem cells to grow hair it didn't work, he had to keep them closely together in collagen gel. Replicel isn't doing that, so unless dsc cells have properties I'm not aware of, like 1 of them multiplying into numerous dp's in the skin and recruiting epithelial stem cells, then it seems reasonable to expect replicel not to grow new hairs.
Small increases maybe :/ but how small?I've been saying the same things you just said for some time, but there is the issue that both Aderans and Intercytex did report stabilization of hair loss and small increases in hair counts.
And I never saw the study by Tsuji where he injected dp's and stem cells so I cant speak to his results. Can you please provide a link to that study (dp + stem cells injections) by Tsuji?