I decided to start a new thread because this reply to Beast's thread has turned into a monster. I also want there to be my own personal thread to document my experience with what I'm about to try.
Look, I'd have to say based on personal experience that masturbation does most likely affect D.H.T. levels in ones body. What I'm about to say is completely anecdotal, but I have been watching the condition of my hair since I was nineteen or twenty like a hawk.
I tested out this theory a few months ago to see if there's any validity to it. I'd have to say there is. Firstly, I want to establish that I have a very high sex drive, I can masturbate up to three or four times a day if I like. I usually limit it to once or twice a day every two to three days, but frankly I'd like to go until I "can't go no more".
Secondly, I have a lot of body hair coming in and I will most likely be covered in hair at some point. I can say that after one of my marathon masturbation sessions that I can literally see the area where my hair comes out dilating after I masturbate (it noticeably swells and becomes flush). It will remain that way for a day or two. Also, when I masturbate too frequently I notice I experience rapid periods of vellus hair changing to terminal hair quicker than when I don't masturbate. I do not experience this anywhere as quickly when I do not masturbate for extended periods of time.
I want to go into hair count after showering when I am masturbating on a regular basis, on an excessive basis, and when I am not for more than two weeks.
I counted my hairs before I stopped masturbating for three weeks. I was masturbating once or twice every two or three days and I was losing about twenty five to thirty five hairs a day in the shower. When I masturbated upwards of three to four times a day every day or every other day (I know it sounds insane, but I wanted to see how sensitive to D.H.T. I am) as I am currently doing, I am experiencing a much more significant shed of up to thirty five to forty five hairs a day (in the shower).
When I stopped masturbating for three weeks here's what I experienced: by day three I felt like I needed to bone a random woman and I was extremely agitated and aggressive, overly so. I also had an intense sensation of well being the entire time from about day four onward. My body hair (more specifically the area around the hair follicle) was not flush or inflamed like it appeared to be (which is normally indicative of new hair growth) after masturbating on a regular basis. The shed count went down to ten to fifteen! It was like this consistently from about week two onward and the number of hairs shed had very little variation from that two week mark.
Look, there are studies you can even check out online that say testosterone levels (and by extension, D.H.T.) spike like crazy for a few hours after ejaculation. There are some reputable doctors and minor studies being done that are beginning to show that masturbation may be linked to contributing to hair loss (just like how they think weight lifting is now having an affect on hair loss even though before that notion was completely dismissed). I firmly believe that some people are just extremely genetically susceptible to androgenic alopecia than others. I even feel my hair tingle on my scalp after ejaculation, this is not in my head either. My body hair rim (where my hair is advancing into new territory on my body) tingles as well after ejaculation. I experience a sense of deep depression after orgasm as well for absolutely no reason.
I think my hormones go completely out of whack for a few hours after I masturbate and that my testosterone and D.H.T. levels must sky rocket. I had a testosterone test done and it was on the higher end of the normal range (700, I forget what the unit of measurement is, but I know the normal range is like 300-800). I highly suspect it goes out of control after a series of excessive masturbation. I can say after that three week or so mark I reduced my habit to once a week on the same day and I maintained the same level of shedding (ten to fifteen) as I did as when I had completely stopped. There has to be hormonal balancing issues at work here as well.
I can say too that, like clockwork, I am prone to developing a breakout when I masturbate on a regular basis as opposed to when I don't masturbate for more than a week. When I don't masturbate for more than a week my skin looks much healthier and it is completely free of blemishes.
I am going to attempt to refrain from sexual activity for three months to see if not masturbating yields any results. I will post pictures as well in the end (if I can make it that long). Pray I don't get into a fight or impregnate anybody because I get insanely aggressive when I don't have any release.
I have to say that I'm not expecting much or anything at all, but if my hair stops shedding like it is now (because I'm back to three times a day) then I can say at least for myself refraining from sexual activity does work to a degree.
I also want to add that I am a proponent of the idea that healthy (aerobic) exercise and eating can help stave off M.P.B. however slightly. Again, this is completely anecdotal, but when I eat healthy, organic, foods and very little red meat I notice that I shed way less than I normally do. It may just be me thinking it has an effect, but I'm convinced this has a part to play. You have to think, with all the plastics and their estrogenizing effects, with all of the hormones pumped into livestock, that these chemicals, organic and nonorganic, are contributing to the uptake in hair loss around the world!
A final thought: You know, some people's bodies are just simply more vulnerable to hormonal changes than others. I have an extremely fast metabolism which probably contributes to the break down of testosterone into D.H.T., I can gain significant muscle mass in a freakishly short amount time (stopped working out years ago out of fear of too early onset hair loss), I have body hair coming in where no body hair should be allowed to exist on a human being, my face is extremely masculine; all of these factors strongly point to my being too genetically responsive to hormones. I think there's something to be said about masturbation having a significant effect on hair loss in people like me whose bodies are overly sensitive to hormones.
I'll be extremely busy with school guys this semester so I won't have to think too much about sex. I do have good will power as well. I'll try to keep up with this thread on a month to month basis describing everything to do with abstaining from masturbation from the hair loss end to the psychological and other physiological effects it has on me. I'll try to do so with pictures as well. I am currently a Norwood 2 with possible very, very early thinning in back (hard to really tell because I've always had fine hair). You can find pictures of my hair in two previous posts that I made in the general forums.
On a side note I decided that I won't go on finasteride until I can say I am definitively thinning in back or if my hair line recedes quicker than I anticipate in the next few months. The stories with shedding and losing more hair than one starts with are really saying to me that I should wait until I experience diffusion in my crown or hair line.
I have to say, I really wish that despite that I know I'm a pretty good looking guy that I wish I weren't so vain. It's really a result of my insecurity and at often times very poor self esteem. I am for the most part one of those A-type personalities and I wish I didn't care like other A-types that just shave their heads and go on with their lives.
It sucks, but more and more I don't think I'm minding the fact that I'll eventually be bald because most men do at some point in their lives. I'm finally doing constructive things in my life and trying to get ahead by going back to school and really, I feel as long as I do what I can to try and slow the progression, that when the day comes and I'm losing the fight that I won't really care too much. I'd want my hair just like anyone else would, but I'm realizing there's more to life than hair and having youthful looks. Besides, as far as looks go, clothing does make the man! Look at Billy Zane! However, what really counts in life is drive and charisma, no matter how you look. Charisma alone can get someone really far in life!
Wish me luck. I'll need your support guys!
Look, I'd have to say based on personal experience that masturbation does most likely affect D.H.T. levels in ones body. What I'm about to say is completely anecdotal, but I have been watching the condition of my hair since I was nineteen or twenty like a hawk.
I tested out this theory a few months ago to see if there's any validity to it. I'd have to say there is. Firstly, I want to establish that I have a very high sex drive, I can masturbate up to three or four times a day if I like. I usually limit it to once or twice a day every two to three days, but frankly I'd like to go until I "can't go no more".
Secondly, I have a lot of body hair coming in and I will most likely be covered in hair at some point. I can say that after one of my marathon masturbation sessions that I can literally see the area where my hair comes out dilating after I masturbate (it noticeably swells and becomes flush). It will remain that way for a day or two. Also, when I masturbate too frequently I notice I experience rapid periods of vellus hair changing to terminal hair quicker than when I don't masturbate. I do not experience this anywhere as quickly when I do not masturbate for extended periods of time.
I want to go into hair count after showering when I am masturbating on a regular basis, on an excessive basis, and when I am not for more than two weeks.
I counted my hairs before I stopped masturbating for three weeks. I was masturbating once or twice every two or three days and I was losing about twenty five to thirty five hairs a day in the shower. When I masturbated upwards of three to four times a day every day or every other day (I know it sounds insane, but I wanted to see how sensitive to D.H.T. I am) as I am currently doing, I am experiencing a much more significant shed of up to thirty five to forty five hairs a day (in the shower).
When I stopped masturbating for three weeks here's what I experienced: by day three I felt like I needed to bone a random woman and I was extremely agitated and aggressive, overly so. I also had an intense sensation of well being the entire time from about day four onward. My body hair (more specifically the area around the hair follicle) was not flush or inflamed like it appeared to be (which is normally indicative of new hair growth) after masturbating on a regular basis. The shed count went down to ten to fifteen! It was like this consistently from about week two onward and the number of hairs shed had very little variation from that two week mark.
Look, there are studies you can even check out online that say testosterone levels (and by extension, D.H.T.) spike like crazy for a few hours after ejaculation. There are some reputable doctors and minor studies being done that are beginning to show that masturbation may be linked to contributing to hair loss (just like how they think weight lifting is now having an affect on hair loss even though before that notion was completely dismissed). I firmly believe that some people are just extremely genetically susceptible to androgenic alopecia than others. I even feel my hair tingle on my scalp after ejaculation, this is not in my head either. My body hair rim (where my hair is advancing into new territory on my body) tingles as well after ejaculation. I experience a sense of deep depression after orgasm as well for absolutely no reason.
I think my hormones go completely out of whack for a few hours after I masturbate and that my testosterone and D.H.T. levels must sky rocket. I had a testosterone test done and it was on the higher end of the normal range (700, I forget what the unit of measurement is, but I know the normal range is like 300-800). I highly suspect it goes out of control after a series of excessive masturbation. I can say after that three week or so mark I reduced my habit to once a week on the same day and I maintained the same level of shedding (ten to fifteen) as I did as when I had completely stopped. There has to be hormonal balancing issues at work here as well.
I can say too that, like clockwork, I am prone to developing a breakout when I masturbate on a regular basis as opposed to when I don't masturbate for more than a week. When I don't masturbate for more than a week my skin looks much healthier and it is completely free of blemishes.
I am going to attempt to refrain from sexual activity for three months to see if not masturbating yields any results. I will post pictures as well in the end (if I can make it that long). Pray I don't get into a fight or impregnate anybody because I get insanely aggressive when I don't have any release.
I have to say that I'm not expecting much or anything at all, but if my hair stops shedding like it is now (because I'm back to three times a day) then I can say at least for myself refraining from sexual activity does work to a degree.
I also want to add that I am a proponent of the idea that healthy (aerobic) exercise and eating can help stave off M.P.B. however slightly. Again, this is completely anecdotal, but when I eat healthy, organic, foods and very little red meat I notice that I shed way less than I normally do. It may just be me thinking it has an effect, but I'm convinced this has a part to play. You have to think, with all the plastics and their estrogenizing effects, with all of the hormones pumped into livestock, that these chemicals, organic and nonorganic, are contributing to the uptake in hair loss around the world!
A final thought: You know, some people's bodies are just simply more vulnerable to hormonal changes than others. I have an extremely fast metabolism which probably contributes to the break down of testosterone into D.H.T., I can gain significant muscle mass in a freakishly short amount time (stopped working out years ago out of fear of too early onset hair loss), I have body hair coming in where no body hair should be allowed to exist on a human being, my face is extremely masculine; all of these factors strongly point to my being too genetically responsive to hormones. I think there's something to be said about masturbation having a significant effect on hair loss in people like me whose bodies are overly sensitive to hormones.
I'll be extremely busy with school guys this semester so I won't have to think too much about sex. I do have good will power as well. I'll try to keep up with this thread on a month to month basis describing everything to do with abstaining from masturbation from the hair loss end to the psychological and other physiological effects it has on me. I'll try to do so with pictures as well. I am currently a Norwood 2 with possible very, very early thinning in back (hard to really tell because I've always had fine hair). You can find pictures of my hair in two previous posts that I made in the general forums.
On a side note I decided that I won't go on finasteride until I can say I am definitively thinning in back or if my hair line recedes quicker than I anticipate in the next few months. The stories with shedding and losing more hair than one starts with are really saying to me that I should wait until I experience diffusion in my crown or hair line.
I have to say, I really wish that despite that I know I'm a pretty good looking guy that I wish I weren't so vain. It's really a result of my insecurity and at often times very poor self esteem. I am for the most part one of those A-type personalities and I wish I didn't care like other A-types that just shave their heads and go on with their lives.
It sucks, but more and more I don't think I'm minding the fact that I'll eventually be bald because most men do at some point in their lives. I'm finally doing constructive things in my life and trying to get ahead by going back to school and really, I feel as long as I do what I can to try and slow the progression, that when the day comes and I'm losing the fight that I won't really care too much. I'd want my hair just like anyone else would, but I'm realizing there's more to life than hair and having youthful looks. Besides, as far as looks go, clothing does make the man! Look at Billy Zane! However, what really counts in life is drive and charisma, no matter how you look. Charisma alone can get someone really far in life!
Wish me luck. I'll need your support guys!
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