If you want to invest in Biosil, it supposedly has studies showing it increases collagen production and helps thicken your hair and improve slows aging of the skin. I was taking it and not sure how much it helped but I took it when I was not using minoxidil foam. I am going to use it again just in case minoxidil may have some effect on collagen. My skin did look pretty good on it. If you use good skin exfoliators like beta hydroxy acid or alpha hydroxy acid, they help increase collage production. Lets put it this way, its easier to get rid of wrinkles, but hard to regrow lost hair. If minoxidil can thicken up things and regrow some hair, I think it maybe worth the subtle side effects that I am sure nobody notices but YOURSELF. As I told you before, you would be surprised how much salt in foods plays a role in how much water you retain and affects the bloating. Its so hard to avoid it if you eat out because most places use alot of salt.robotsex said:On the issue of collagen inhibition due to Minoxidil:
http://www.baldingblog.com/2008/07/17/minoxidil-and-collagen-levels/
Interesting, but even that Doctor says it's unlikely.
Maybe it's in my head, no pun intended
You are close to a NW3V but I think you are not quite there yet. Your vertex is still not bad but your temples are receded to almost a NW3. Your lucky that you have thick hair because you can style it to look pretty much almost like a NW1. I honestly think some of the alcohol in the foam cosmetically shrinks the hair shaft somewhat so it looks thinner. However the actually hairs are still there but just thinner looking so it seems like your thinning more. If the hair shafts are dehydrated somewhat they look thinner. I am taking Biosil again as well. Keep using the minoxidil because I stopped using it because it seemed to cause my hair to look worse but it does help. You won't know how much it helped until you stop it. I did that and now I regret it but I am back using it so maybe I can recover some thickness again. I did a food diary on my iphone and my sodium intake is almost double what the recommended requirements daily for my body weight. Everything is loaded with sodium. I would have to just each fruits and vegetables and make my own meats just to stay low with the sodium.robotsex said:
Petchsky, are you saying he is a NW1 with +1. If that is the case I am a NW0 in your eyes. He is definitely not going to get a NW1 rating from CCS.Petchsky said:
. I have responded VERY well to minoxidil/finasteride tho, I'm probably at a nw2 from a nw3v. The thinning in the back isnt even noticeable anymore. But im getting sexual sides from the finasteride and will be getting on proxiphen and nano conditioner when it arrives. I'll let you know how it goes!
I totally feel the same way as you. I still have a bloated face too. I am wondering if anyone got bloating from one type of minoxidil and did not with another yet still had good results with their hair. If anyone knows let me and robotsex know. I wonder if you get less bloating with the liquid since some say it does absorb as much as the foam. The other choice is 2% minoxidil twice daily but its less effective. Or try hairchi foam like this guy did who got bloating from minoxidil and claims his hair did well with hairchi with no side effects.robotsex said:
My regimen is called OVERKILL. In the am, I shampoo with Nano or Revivogen shampoo. Use Nano conditioner. Use the foam. PM, I use Proxiphen, Promox, Revivogen, and back using Viral Mane. Take Propecia once per day. Use LLLT 2-3 times per week. I did what you did in the past. I went to foam once per day then saw bloating and went to no foam. Big mistake. However, if you don't want to use minoxidil then don't. I would keep trying different minoxidils until you find one that you like. Try Lee's. Or go to 2% percent. Just experiment. If you don't want to mess with it, then try Hairchi. I am. What can I say, I am sucker for hair loss products.robotsex said:
Very good question. I honestly wonder if my hair would be the same even without using all those treatments. I honestly do not know for sure but I think now (I hate to admit this) maybe twice a day minoxidil was helping me more than I ever realized. I used to just use Revivogen and the Lasercomb and my hair looked great. Used all these treatments and my hair looks worse than my baseline. So if anything maybe they have slowed things down or as Bryan likes to say "offset" my thinning but they have not helped me get back to baseline or go above baseline. So don't just use minoxidil once per day.robotsex said:
