Ru58841 - Poll: Why Haven't You Tried Ru58841

What does prevent you from trying RU58841?


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AnxiousAndy

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PSA: Propylene Glycol is toxic to the inner ear. Gonna be fun in a few decades when the people now blowing sick vape clouds start going deaf in middle age.



Lots of people claimed at least maintenance with RU... off the top of my head: @IdealForehead, @el_duterino, maybe @hemingway_the_mercenary? It (and similar drugs) are without question making my regrowth more effective. Not that they're safe, but they do work.
Ideal forehead is also on a cocktail of other medications so he is not a good example. I've not heard of much success with it, but if you think its helping you then more power to you man.
 

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el_duterino

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We have 15 years of success stories on RU and CB but people only focus on the last few months of posts

Anyway the number of users is like a million less than finasteride so in Practice even if every user would have great results and post it here it still would be a drop of water on the ocean of finasteride dutasteride minoxidil stories
 

hemingway_the_mercenary

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PSA: Propylene Glycol is toxic to the inner ear. Gonna be fun in a few decades when the people now blowing sick vape clouds start going deaf in middle age.



Lots of people claimed at least maintenance with RU... off the top of my head: @IdealForehead, @el_duterino, maybe @hemingway_the_mercenary? It (and similar drugs) are without question making my regrowth more effective. Not that they're safe, but they do work.

Hell no. Most people don’t get maintaine with RU it’s a very weak compound that will only work on the most mild forms of hairloss

It did nothing for me
 

Nostro100

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Can't really be used as proof RU was working for him as he was also on minoxidil and finasteride, he even dropped RU and continued to see improvement. Looks like the work of minoxidil and finasteride to me.

well, For some reason I already knew that you were going to say that but irishman himself says that it's RU and not finasteride that was doing the work

19 months finasteride 1.25 generic, 3 years minoxidil, ru on and off (im getting some soon and ill remain more consistent on ru)


Have I gained hair on finasteride. . No. Im almost 2 years finasteride im disappointed. But im at baseline I guess im thankful for that..
 

Nostro100

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We have 15 years of success stories on RU and CB but people only focus on the last few months of posts

Anyway the number of users is like a million less than finasteride so in Practice even if every user would have great results and post it here it still would be a drop of water on the ocean of finasteride dutasteride minoxidil stories

You are right. From a direct proportionality analysis, we should have a lot less success reports for RU when compared to Finasteride.
Only when/if (Ru/CB) get released to the public will we know the true % of side effects and effectiveness to the general population.

I won't say it would be more or less (sides/effectiveness) when compared to finasteride, only an unbiased large scale study could tell.

  • The clear pattern with all hairloss drugs is that people who see results with it tend to defend it to a possible option to other people and ignore other people's failures
  • and people who see zero results tend to "attack" it as a waste of time of drug that may even give side effects and ignore other people's success
It's human nature to be biased by it's own personal experiences, right? it's wrong but not evil to the core
 

AnxiousAndy

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well, For some reason I already knew that you were going to say that but irishman himself says that it's RU and not finasteride that was doing the work

No he didn't?
 

el_duterino

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Hell no. Most people don’t get maintaine with RU it’s a very weak compound that will only work on the most mild forms of hairloss

It did nothing for me
you said the same thigh about finasteride but we know that 90 percent of guys are getting positive results from it
So basically about the same that we can expect for RU or CB the difference being that it will be more effective for the hairline
 
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hemingway_the_mercenary

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you said the same thigh about finasteride but we know that 90 percent of guys are getting positive results from it
So basically about the same that we can expect for RU or CB the difference being that it will be more effective for the hairline

Actually I’ve said numerous times that finasteride was a 100x more effective than ru for me. Ru is garbage
 

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el_duterino

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For the past 2 weeks Ive only been using ru and finasteride

Apparently you never used RU alone
Used both and still got no results??

Then RU is garbage.. Based on you opinion of using both for 2 weeks?
 

hemingway_the_mercenary

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Apparently you never used RU alone
Used both and still got no results??

Then RU is garbage.. Based on you opinion of using both for 2 weeks?

You are so biased it’s ridiculous. I was off finasteride for around 3 weeks. During the last week I used Ru of those and my hairloss was only accelerating so I added finasteride like 2 weeks later

I’ve used legit treatments like topical Bicalutamide which were amazing for hairloss and I know what that feels like. I’ve also used strong DHTs which make you shed and felt the protection from them. RU gives me nothing

Stop schilling it all over the place, aside from you there’s almost no one claiming results from this stuff. Thousands of pics of people regrowing with finasteride yet not a single one when usingRU alone
 

el_duterino

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That's because no one starts with RU/CB- the regrowth you may get on finasteride and minoxidil, is happening at first when guys are young and the loss recent

RU and CB aren't even available to sale or advertised by companies so yeah its a bit early

People switch to other drugs once they fail on finasteride like yourself at which stage regrowth is a very far away dream as the opportunity has been lost

Anyway this argument is pointless - the only new hairloss drug on the short term horizon is CB and it will be out soon at which point young guys will be using it as a first step into treating male pattern baldness and we will have more Good success stories to replace finasteride and dutasteride which will die out due to side effects and poor long term maintenance of hairlines

Just a matter of time
 
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Nostro100

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No he didn't?

19 months finasteride 1.25 generic, 3 years minoxidil, ru on and off (im getting some soon and ill remain more consistent on ru)


Have I gained hair on finasteride. . No. Im almost 2 years finasteride im disappointed. But im at baseline I guess im thankful for that..


That's from irishman89. Show me the part where Irishman89 said he has more success with finasteride...
Unlike you, I "red" this article... you clearly didnt.. you only "red" the title and assumed his results were derived from finasteride.
 

hemingway_the_mercenary

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That's because no one starts with RU/CB- the regrowth you may get on finasteride and minoxidil, is happening at first when guys are young and the loss recent

RU and CB aren't even available to sale or advertised by companies so yeah its a bit early

People switch to other drugs once they fail on finasteride like yourself at which stage regrowth is a very far away dream as the opportunity has been lost

Anyway this argument is pointless - the only new hairloss drug on the short term horizon is CB and it will be out soon at which point young guys will be using it as a first step into treating male pattern baldness and we will have more Good success stories to replace finasteride and dutasteride which will die out due to side effects and poor long term maintenance of hairlines

Just a matter of time

Delusion delusions and more delusions

When I set this account I put my age as 40 because I never intended this to be serious but I’m 20, have more of my hair, and all my hairloss is recent and diffuse thinning.

Way more people on this forum tried ru at some point than finasteride I would guess but at the very least a significant amount have tried ru thanks to people like you and almost all have found that it does basically nothing. How is it possible to get regrowth on finasteride when it inhibits only like 40% scalp dht but not on topical ru at 50mg which is claimed to be a strong androgen receptor blocker. Just lol

The fact that 1mg oral finasteride is stronger than 50 mg topical ru should say all to anyone who is seriously wondering if ru is legit. It’s a joke of a drug and the more time people waste on it the less time will be spent on productive treatments.
 

ryan r

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Would this be good to add next to dutasteride? or wouldn't it have any extra benefits. Not sure if minoxidil is doing anything for me as a topical. Hairline is getting worse now since late 2016. Since I switched from finasteride to dutasteride in july 2017, hairline is going quicker, after a shedding phase that lasted a couple of months.
 

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Would this be good to add next to dutasteride? or wouldn't it have any extra benefits. Not sure if minoxidil is doing anything for me as a topical. Hairline is getting worse now since late 2016. Since I switched from finasteride to dutasteride in july 2017, hairline is going quicker, after a shedding phase that lasted a couple of months.

So you've been on dutasteride for a year and saw no improvement? Did you make any changes in your regimen along the way?
 

Nostro100

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I think he is just one more person proving that DHT is a side effect of the major "things" that cause hairloss (non the less, dht contributes to hairloss).
The enzymatic conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone is oxygen dependent. In low-oxygen environments, the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone is favored; whereas in high-oxygen environments, more testosterone is converted to estradiol.
The theory is that out scalp is under tension. After puberty, androgens will degrade the fatty tissue that cushions the hair follicule. This is the start of a low-oxygen environment and therefore, the start of an DHT rich environment.

Here are more details about why I think this. (20min reading) https://journals.lww.com/plasrecons..._Male_Pattern_Baldness_with_Botulinum.79.aspx
 
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