Safest Antiandrogen For Your Dick - Bicalutamide

[StevenGerrard]

I worry that i screwed my T:E ratio with Duta,

have you experienced any sides while on Duta? if so, which?

 

[Ikarus]

Absolutely, i didn't mean by my statement that straight men or anyone should care what others think of them. It's just that when it comes to attraction, i am happy with the outcomes lol. I am currently living in Morocco, a country in North Africa, just below Spain. Medications here, especially for cancer tumors or life threatening conditions, are very expensive. Avodart costs the equivalent of $55 and Casodex is $80, so i would be spending $135 every month, it's quite difficult for a college student . I contacted a hair specialist near where im living, and she was very reluctant at first because i am already using avodart which very few people in this country are actually using it for BPH, but she agreed to atleast discuss it with me in her office. I could opt for generic Bica which is way cheaper (same price as avodart or slightly less), i just need to confirm it's genuine Bica and all is well.

I come off harsh sometimes, I apologise about that. Nevertheless, what if you ordered the medications internationally?

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

have you experienced any sides while on Duta? if so, which?

Yes !! In my first 2~3 weeks of taking dutasteride (everyday), the first side effects was loss of my body hair. I knew then that my DHT is dying and was relieved. After 2 months, i kept losin body hair, and alot from my pubic area, then i had the first sleep paralysis in my life. I never EVER want to relive those 2 weeks. I had sleep paralysis spaced out in those weeks (it was end of April). Such horrible experience that i hope nobody gets with these drugs (i dont know if avodart was responsible, but i am positive cause nothing in my life has changed, and i always try to keep stess at bay, but who knows. I'm just glad it hasn't happened since). Ofcourse, my stubborn *** continued with avodart and thankfully i haven't gotten any experience like that after. The next side effect was thinning and loss of facial hair, not quite as my body hair but i do monitor myself for any changes and my beard growth definitely slowed down and the hairs became blonder. I would say the only concerning side effects that i got recently were short term memory loss, kinda watery semen and softer erections. If i experience any more side effects, or i start lagging behind in my studies or sexual life, then i will quit avodart. Hair is important, but the feeling of living is way more.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

I come off harsh sometimes, I apologise about that. Nevertheless, what if you ordered the medications internationally?

Where did you come off as harsh ?? Actually, i read this whole thread and some people were ridiculing you and calling you names, but i didn't see what you did wrong. You were only sharing your opinion on Bica and tried having adult like conversations with others who said Bica caused this and caused that. One thing that i may disagree with you on is estrogen isn't all healthy and does have its ups and downs. Sure estrogen helps hair growth and various other things, but as men we need to keep it at a healthy range and that range is far lower than female range. Its imbalance can cause acne, ED, low energy and depression and various other awful things. I do know for a fact that Bica will cause me estrogen dominance, but i'll give it a try in the near future hoping for non permanent side effects lol.

 

[Ikarus]

Where did you come off as harsh ?? Actually, i read this whole thread and some people were ridiculing you and calling you names, but i didn't see what you did wrong. You were only sharing your opinion on Bica and tried having adult like conversations with others who said Bica caused this and caused that. One thing that i may disagree with you on is estrogen isn't all healthy and does have its ups and downs. Sure estrogen helps hair growth and various other things, but as men we need to keep it at a healthy range and that range is far lower than female range. Its imbalance can cause acne, ED, low energy and depression and various other awful things. I do know for a fact that Bica will cause me estrogen dominance, but i'll give it a try in the near future hoping for non permanent side effects lol.

Estradiol can't be used on it's own, unless it's used at a sufficient dose to lead to testosterone suppression. If it's used with an anti-androgen (e.g. spironolactone, cyproterone, flutamide, bicalutamide), then you won't have a hormonal imbalance. ADT along with estradiol leads to acne-free and smooth skin, and won't lead to those other effects mentioned once you have found a regimen suitable for your body.

On bicalutamide, you will somewhat have estradiol dominance, but that won't lead to hormonal imbalances. You will just be using ADT, without the typical effects of ADT.

Estradiol doesn't have many downs if used correctly, and has to be paired with an anti-androgen.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

Estradiol can't be used on it's own, unless it's used at a sufficient dose to lead to testosterone suppression. If it's used with an anti-androgen (e.g. spironolactone, cyproterone, flutamide, bicalutamide), then you won't have a hormonal imbalance. ADT along with estradiol leads to acne-free and smooth skin, and won't lead to those other effects mentioned once you have found a regimen suitable for your body.

On bicalutamide, you will somewhat have estradiol dominance, but that won't lead to hormonal imbalances. You will just be using ADT, without the typical effects of ADT.

Estradiol doesn't have many downs if used correctly, and has to be paired with an anti-androgen.

Can i expect a reduction of acne on Bica ?? I am dealing with persistant pimples and i know about isotretinoin, but if Bica could help then it's 2 birds with one stone. Also , is neoteny a guaranted side effect ?? I read somewhere that AA like Bica could reverse some puberty effects, if they meant smooth skin then i'm down.

 

[Ikarus]

Can i expect a reduction of acne on Bica ?? I am dealing with persistant pimples and i know about isotretinoin, but if Bica could help then it's 2 birds with one stone. Also , is neoteny a guaranted side effect ?? I read somewhere that AA like Bica could reverse some puberty effects, if they meant smooth skin then i'm down.

On bicalutamide, your sebum production will reduce significantly when a sufficient dose is used to lead to the maximum of ADT. Neoteny won’t be significant, you will mainly get smooth skin and poreless skin.

 

[INT]

Estradiol can't be used on it's own, unless it's used at a sufficient dose to lead to testosterone suppression. If it's used with an anti-androgen (e.g. spironolactone, cyproterone, flutamide, bicalutamide), then you won't have a hormonal imbalance. ADT along with estradiol leads to acne-free and smooth skin, and won't lead to those other effects mentioned once you have found a regimen suitable for your body.

On bicalutamide, you will somewhat have estradiol dominance, but that won't lead to hormonal imbalances. You will just be using ADT, without the typical effects of ADT.

Estradiol doesn't have many downs if used correctly, and has to be paired with an anti-androgen.

Unless you want to maintain your other male traits

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

On bicalutamide, your sebum production will reduce significantly when a sufficient dose is used to lead to the maximum of ADT. Neoteny won’t be significant, you will mainly get smooth skin and poreless skin.

That sufficient dose is 50mg i suppose ?? I read studies using 150mg Bica monotherapy, but there is no way i'll ever use that dose even if it produces stronger effectiveness.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

Unless you want to maintain your other male traits

Right. No man will take estrogen hoping to preserve his male traits. Sadly for some, estrogen with AAs is the only way to preserve and/or regrow lost hair.

 

[Ikarus]

That sufficient dose is 50mg i suppose ?? I read studies using 150mg Bica monotherapy, but there is no way i'll ever use that dose even if it produces stronger effectiveness.

Sufficient dose usually is 50mg for acne and hair loss.

Right. No man will take estrogen hoping to preserve his male traits. Sadly for some, estrogen with AAs is the only way to preserve and/or regrow lost hair.

Even myself, it’s risky because I will experience the most significant facial feminisation due to my age. But it’s alright for now; if the facial feminisation becomes to the point that I look ‘passable’, then I’ll cut it out. I’ll end up opting for Lupron or an orchiectomy instead.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

Sufficient dose usually is 50mg for acne and hair loss.


Even myself, it’s risky because I will experience the most significant facial feminisation due to my age. But it’s alright for now; if the facial feminisation becomes to the point that I look ‘passable’, then I’ll cut it out. I’ll end up opting for Lupron or an orchiectomy instead.

Woah, will you really opt for injections and/or orchiectomy just to save your hair ?? I am sorry for this question but i'm just curious, are you a transgender ??

 

[Capone]

Woah, will you really opt for injections and/or orchiectomy just to save your hair ?? I am sorry for this question but i'm just curious, are you a transgender ??

There’s a lot in the closet using hair loss as an excuse to transition.

 

[StevenGerrard]

There’s a lot in the closet using hair loss as an excuse to transition.

I honestly don't think that is the case. They (estrogen crew) seem to be after the super clear skin and thick/full Norwood 0-1.

hell.. if it wasn't for the high risk of developing gyno I would cycle on/off estrogens myself

 

[Zenya]

I honestly don't think that is the case. They (estrogen crew) seem to be after the super clear skin and thick/full Norwood 0-1.

hell.. if it wasn't for the high risk of developing gyno I would cycle on/off estrogens myself

That sounds very tempting, that's why I'm also thinking about starting estrogen in a couple of months too. Am I worried about the high probability of developing gyno? A little yes, although I wouldn't mind a little gyno if that's the price. But only a little if I can control it. I'll see.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

There’s a lot in the closet using hair loss as an excuse to transition.

Why would you need an "excuse" to transition ?? It's either you are a transgender and you dealt with dysphoria for god knows how long, or you are what you were born as. I don't think hairloss will drive someone to transition if they weren't trans to begin with.

 

[baba_yaga]

I honestly don't think that is the case. They (estrogen crew) seem to be after the super clear skin and thick/full Norwood 0-1.

hell.. if it wasn't for the high risk of developing gyno I would cycle on/off estrogens myself

Well, you can always have a breast reduction surgery. With all of its downsides, it can still get you a somewhat normal looking chest. Meanwhile, NW5/7 with hair transplant will never get you anywhere close to a normal looking full head of hair.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

That sounds very tempting, that's why I'm also thinking about starting estrogen in a couple of months too. Am I worried about the high probability of developing gyno? A little yes, although I wouldn't mind a little gyno if that's the price. But only a little if I can control it. I'll see.

Yes those side effects are very tempting, but everyone reacts differently. In my honest opinion, if you want clear skin, opt for isotretinoin (it has way more success rate at achieving clear skin anyway). If you want to help your hairloss, AAs are your friends. Don't go the extreme route even if you are fine with gyno. It's not as easy for you as it will be for your body and endocrine system. Bica has a high rate for gyno as it is, so you can begin with Bica and leave estrogen as the very last resort if AAs aren't halting your hairloss and hair is that much important to you.

 

[baba_yaga]

Yes those side effects are very tempting, but everyone reacts differently. In my honest opinion, if you want clear skin, opt for isotretinoin (it has way more success rate at achieving clear skin anyway). If you want to help your hairloss, AAs are your friends. Don't go the extreme route even if you are fine with gyno. It's not as easy for you as it will be for your body and endocrine system. Bica has a high rate for gyno as it is, so you can begin with Bica and leave estrogen as the very last resort if AAs aren't halting your hairloss and hair is that much important to you.

Bica and finasteride/duta will most likely (~95%), at the right doses, stop his hair loss for good.

 

[Ikarus]

Woah, will you really opt for injections and/or orchiectomy just to save your hair ?? I am sorry for this question but i'm just curious, are you a transgender ??

I have an immense dislike for testosterone; its negative effects are significant, and can spark other issues medically due to genetics. I'm not transgender.

There’s a lot in the closet using hair loss as an excuse to transition.

That's not the case. Most of us don't suffer with gender dysphoria, which is the medical condition needed to transition. If you don't have gender dysphoria, and you are using anti-androgens and estradiol, you technically aren't transitioning. You are repairing the damage of androgens through hormonal therapy.

That sounds very tempting, that's why I'm also thinking about starting estrogen in a couple of months too. Am I worried about the high probability of developing gyno? A little yes, although I wouldn't mind a little gyno if that's the price. But only a little if I can control it. I'll see.

It depends on the person and dose, and it depends on your age. You have to be strategic with doses, and find what's right for your body.