Saw Palmetto, Dangerous?

[Reasons]

I've been on a 5% minoxidil, 2x a week nizoral, and 160 mg Saw Palmetto 2x a day routine for 9 months now. I'm getting satisfactory results and would like to keep this routine up. The only thing is I'm wondering, since there is no data supporting its efficacy, if saw palmetto is really necessary. I've only been adding it because my local grocery store, Pathmark, always has this stuff real cheap (often buy 1 get one free).

Obviously if it's not hurting than I might as well leave it since it isn't burning a hole in my wallet. However, has anyone ever had NEGATIVE results with saw palmetto? Now that I'm happy with how things are going, should I shy away from such a nonproven remedy? Or would it be better to not rock the boat and stick with the routine, saw palmetto included?

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Stick with it. Are you using the extract or the berries? The extract has all the good stuff in a higher concentration, but a little more expensive. I've never had any bad side effects. It helped my hair and my face really cleared up bigtime. That goes to show that acne is more than likely DHT related. My sex drive even climbed up a bit. I did notice that my ejaculate was at a higher volume and a bit watered down. Maybe the stuff increases semen or something.

 

[acfava]

yea i agree. i stopped it for a few weeks after i had been on it for a few yrs and i shed massively, hair was all over my keyboard. i think as long as you arent seeing any sexual side effects, which i heard it can cause for some people, keep using it.

 

[Reasons]

thanks, i think i'll stay with it then. what i'm using is Pathmark's 'Natural Saw Palmetto' which is saw palmetto extract (berry) 160 mg per tablet with active sterols 136 - 152mg (85% - 95%) . I take two tablets a day and it costs me about 4 bucks a month, i usually stock up when they have their 2 for $8 sale.

as far as my nine month results, i don't have pictures. but what i can say is nine months ago i freaked because i had a bald spot clearly visible on the crown of my head. after ordering 5% minoxidil i got some toppik and used that for the 'nights out'. i had noticed it thining a while but during college i knew that i wouldn't be able to stick to any kind of regimine and convinced myself that i should just let nature take its course, blah, blah, blah. well, it started to bother me and i'm out of college so i figured that i could stay consistent with minoxidil, and have. i added nizoral cause that's apretty simple thing to do. then when i found saw palmetto so cheap i thought, why the hell not?

anyway, the toppik is now collecting dust as my crown has complete coverage when dry and combed. yes, the coverage is diffuse but there is no longer obvious scalp blinding you. the regrowth was gradual and i didn't think about it until i was cleaning up and realized that i hadn't touched toppik in a very long time. it's no miracle, but i don't feel as if i need a concealant any more and i feel a lot less self-conscious. i would say for me, it took the whole nine months of 5% minoxidil twice a day, nizoral twice a week, and saw palmetto (maybe?) to make me feel as if there is improvement worth writing to the board about.

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Keep up the good work. Sounds like it is doing the job. Just don't lose patients. Be confident.

 

[cyberprimate]

guys i've been taking 520 mg of SP berries twice a day for the last 3 years, and think of increasing it to 3 times a day. It increased my sex drive dramatically and my ejaculations are much denser. I do have very slightly bigger balls as well (c*** is the same i think). I didn't tell anyone about it and got "compliments" about a fuller hair after 4-5 months of taking it twice a day. I stopped taking it for a month one year ago and saw a massive change. I won't stop again. can't believe that people are still doubting about it here. To me SP is just like Propecia without the side effects, in fact with beneficial sexual effects.

 

[justasking]

s.p. and sheds?

Did you go through sheds while on the herb?

 

[HairlossTalk]

It's most likely that your results are from the Minoxidil.

And people doubt because every study ever done on it showed absolutely no difference between the SP and Placebo group.

HairLossTalk.com

 

[Stinger122]

I believe Saw palmetto has slowed down my hair loss dramatically, I was using 320mg (85-95% Fatty acids and sterols) but iv increased that to 640mg now because Redbone did advice me to and I dont really see any harm in it... But day two of doing that I feel so f*****g horny!

My semen seems more sticky, bigger load and less watery.. and I don't think im the only one!

HairLossTalk.com, can you show me some of these studys please? I have been using it before I added the revivogen so I do believe its the SP doing its stuff and revivogen im just waiting to help me out a bit more!

Oh and HairLossTalk.com, how is it going with the revivogen? You use it don't you? I seem to remember your posts in the Revivogen forum. Got any benefits?

Take care!

 

[cyberprimate]

for god's sake HairLossTalk.com, just try SP!!!!

Big amounts of SP made such SPECTACULAR results on my hair that i don't even need to enquire about this or that study. I just know its efficiency from a personal experience.

BTW, what company conducted that test on SP? Just curious to know.

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

Saw Palmetto

I was thinking of adding saw Palmetto to my regime, but I'm already on finasteride, It's supposed to be a DHT suppressant aswell is't it. I don't think it could be dangerous if it's so freely avaliable in supermarkets

 

[HairlossTalk]

Khai -

I did try saw palmetto and it did nothing for me except make me shed like crazy, make my face incredibly oily, and make my libido increase.

Then i realized if i was going to mess with my hormones this much anyways, I might as well get on the thing that actually has been proven to work in 83% of men (Propecia), rather than the one that hasn't succeeded in a single clinical trial yet (Saw Palmetto).

It was just logic 101 for me.

 

[HairlossTalk]

HairLossTalk.com, can you show me some of these studys please?

They were never published because the results showed no difference between placebo group and Saw Palmetto group. This is as per a firsthand face to face discussion I had with Angela Christiano in her office at Columbia University. She has the study data locked up in a filing cabinet in her office. She showed me the photos and everything, side by side, and there was no diff between placebo and saw palmetto. This was in contrast to marked difference between placebo and Propecia.

Aside from this, see if you can find a single study anywhere on planet earth that has shown saw palmetto works for treating hair loss. Aside from the one that was declared bunk on national television, performed by "Marcovici G." who happens to own a saw palmetto based hair loss tonic productline.

As human beings are, they'd rather do their own thing anyways, so enjoy the SP Your choice, your hair It might work for some, but the way my brain works is, use the one with the greatest potential to work, not the one with literally zero evidence backing it.

HairLossTalk.com

 

[bombscience]

HairLossTalk.com, can you show me some of these studys please?

They were never published because the results showed no difference between placebo group and Saw Palmetto group. This is as per a firsthand face to face discussion I had with Angela Christiano in her office at Columbia University. She has the study data locked up in a filing cabinet in her office. She showed me the photos and everything, side by side, and there was no diff between placebo and saw palmetto. This was in contrast to marked difference between placebo and Propecia.

Aside from this, see if you can find a single study anywhere on planet earth that has shown saw palmetto works for treating hair loss. Aside from the one that was declared bunk on national television, performed by "Marcovici G." who happens to own a saw palmetto based hair loss tonic productline.

As human beings are, they'd rather do their own thing anyways, so enjoy the SP Your choice, your hair It might work for some, but the way my brain works is, use the one with the greatest potential to work, not the one with literally zero evidence backing it.

HairLossTalk.com

Or just use both I am on Saw P and Fina. It hasn't helped me yet but I will try removing Saw P after a while for a couple months to see if it helps or doesn't.

 

[Guest]

I used SP for quite some time (over 2 yrs.). I found it to be the worst of both worlds. My hair kept falling out and I was chronically depressed, as was my libido.

Not a good deal for me. Propecia has been sig. better in both categories.

 

[Stinger122]

Very weird... Well all I can say MY story isI quit saw palmetto for 2 months and I noticed an increase in shedding, then I went back on it and noticed a decrease. I think that speaks for itself, I guess it does work for some and it doesnt work for others. Oh and also I DO believe it does NOT regrow hair, it just STOPs hair loss or significantly reduces it I.E in my case...

Oh well!

 

[Redbone]

The dose of SW in the world renowned so called Procerin is 1500mg that is quite allot. More than I think anyone here has ever tried on a consistent basis.

 

[Guest]

The dose of SW in the world renowned so called Procerin is 1500mg that is quite allot. More than I think anyone here has ever tried on a consistent basis.

That is about 4 time what I was taking!

Wow. Kind of like taking proscar for hair loss.

 

[cyberprimate]

very interesting.

all i can say is that we seem to be differently built hormonally which is quite obvious when you notice how different one can look from one another. Some are frail puny and little with pale complexion and soft voice and some are loud viriloid hairy animals. How could we react the same way to something that influences so deeply how we are?

We're playing yoyo with ourselves everyday.

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

SP

I read on another hair losssite that SP attaches itself to the hair follicle recptor, the same way DHT does. I also read that inhibiting DHT causes the receptors that use it to upregulate, meaning that the receptors start becoming more receptive to DHT because it has been starved of it, but that it maxes out after two months, so the hair receptors have become their most sensitive after two months. I don't know weather this is based on fact or fiction, but maybe someone could enligten me on this one.