Seborrheic Dermatitis - What to do imediately? Is it better to shave hair?

[nir7699]

From my long and horrible experience with Seborrheic Dermatitis, it's the worst case scenario for male pattern baldness sufferers. The hair just keep falling without going back, no matter what pills you are on or what treatment you use. It's a devastating condition, only those who suffer that kind of skin issue in addition to male pattern baldness knows what I'm talking about.

Well. I'm thinking what should be the fastest treatment (because the longer this condition last, the lower in hell the male pattern baldness gets).
1. First way was using Nizoral. It helped but also made a crazy hair loss, I guess by drying the scalp.
2. Second way (different outbreak) I applied Aloe Vera gel (from the plant itself, not a diluted chemical product) so that the scalp won't dry - suprisingly it just caused more irritation and lengthen healing.
3. Tried not touching my hair at all, letting it heal by itself, while going on a diet - low carbons and low oils and hydrating - drinking more water, minimized eating - only vegetables high in water and low in sugar + green tea twice a day. That's the best so far, yet even that can take a week and more. **

In order to minimize healing time, I consider next time shaving my hair immediately so that the excessive oil can be gently absorbed by a dry clean cloth (or a soft dry tissue) once in a while. and cold therapy can be used on the inflamed scalp (Ice Roller / Cold Pack).

Do you have any resolutions you can share about treating Seborrheic Dermatitis faster and without harsh chemicals?


** I forgot the most important thing: AEROBIC ACTIVITY - CLEANS THE BODY FROM EXCESS OILS AND BALANCES OILS ON THE SCALP. I try to walk (quick/fast walk) 3-4 times a week for an hour.

 

[King Norwood]

Dude I have the same.
But natural stuff just didn't work for me.
My regimen works great tho.
Every morning I use medicated shampoo [rotate between keto+zinc pyrothione , selsun blue and coal tar-salicylic acid shampoo] and at night use a corticosteroid lotion (betamethasone dipropionate). Corticosteroid is a game changer in inflammation. Seb derm inflammation is really bad and shampoos alone can't suppress it.
Try this regimen bro.
My seb derm was so bad I ripped out clumps of hair (no joke fistful) trying to get the cradle cap like sh*t out.
Fortunately regrew it back.but i do still have recession.
Using finasteride+oral min (dont use topical. It'll get worse)

 

[Norwoody]

Well, ketoconazole definitely kills the yeast that causes SD. Perhaps you could still use it, but use a conditioner? I know that there is also a milder brand of keto shampoo that Kevin and some others have recommended, I think it's Regenepure maybe?

Another chemical that can treat it is salicylic acid. Some shampoos have this. It is also used to treat acne.

Aside from corticosteroids like King Norwood just suggested, the only other thing I could think of would be accutane. However, it can cause hair loss. However some users have reported no hair loss and reduced sebum when using low doses.

 

[King Norwood]

Well, ketoconazole definitely kills the yeast that causes SD. Perhaps you could still use it, but use a conditioner? I know that there is also a milder brand of keto shampoo that Kevin and some others have recommended, I think it's Regenepure maybe?

Another chemical that can treat it is salicylic acid. Some shampoos have this. It is also used to treat acne.

Aside from corticosteroids like King Norwood just suggested, the only other thing I could think of would be accutane. However, it can cause hair loss. However some users have reported no hair loss and reduced sebum when using low doses.

accutane horror stories are crazy.
And here people freak about finasteride

 

[nir7699]

Dude I have the same.
But natural stuff just didn't work for me.
My regimen works great tho.
Every morning I use medicated shampoo [rotate between keto+zinc pyrothione , selsun blue and coal tar-salicylic acid shampoo] and at night use a corticosteroid lotion (betamethasone dipropionate). Corticosteroid is a game changer in inflammation. Seb derm inflammation is really bad and shampoos alone can't suppress it.
Try this regimen bro.
My seb derm was so bad I ripped out clumps of hair (no joke fistful) trying to get the cradle cap like sh*t out.
Fortunately regrew it back.but i do still have recession.
Using finasteride+oral min (dont use topical. It'll get worse)

Thanks ! About Minoxidil, you're saying that after trying alcohol-free? Because Alcohol sure is a hazard for seborrhea sufferers. I also started using RU58841 Powder inside the minoxidil, maybe I should cut that one.
I'm going to start oral minoxidil in any case. and I'll get that Corticosteroid, thanks!

 

[King Norwood]

Thanks ! About Minoxidil, you're saying that after trying alcohol-free? Because Alcohol sure is a hazard for seborrhea sufferers. I also started using RU58841 Powder inside the minoxidil, maybe I should cut that one.
I'm going to start oral minoxidil in any case. and I'll get that Corticosteroid, thanks!

i haven't tried alcohol free cuz it isnt really available here. But either way I'd try to avoid irritants on the scalp.
Maybe use RU separately?

 

[nir7699]

Well, ketoconazole definitely kills the yeast that causes SD. Perhaps you could still use it, but use a conditioner? I know that there is also a milder brand of keto shampoo that Kevin and some others have recommended, I think it's Regenepure maybe?

Another chemical that can treat it is salicylic acid. Some shampoos have this. It is also used to treat acne.

Aside from corticosteroids like King Norwood just suggested, the only other thing I could think of would be accutane. However, it can cause hair loss. However some users have reported no hair loss and reduced sebum when using low doses.

Thanks. About salicylic acid, I'm worried it'd irritate the skin more.

i haven't tried alcohol free cuz it isnt really available here. But either way I'd try to avoid irritants on the scalp.
Maybe use RU separately?

The more I apply stuff , the more it's prone to seborrhea, I do it once a day, and maybe even that is too much.
I use Aquagaine minoxidil. Alcohol is surely stuff you should avoid in any topical product. About Aquagaine I can't tell how much it helps, but I think it's not the cause for seborrhea.

 

[King Norwood]

Thanks. About salicylic acid, I'm worried it'd irritate the skin more.

Salicylic acid will help prevent and remove buildup of flakes as it's a keratolytic. Once u remove the flakes u might wanna use it to prevent it building up again

 

[shoegazing]

Yeah bro, same boat. Keto has definitely helped but it's too harsh and therefore made me cease the use. Nizoral, which it seems to be a softer version or whatever, is not sold in my country. I can buy a kidney with the shipping price, so yeah, keto is my only resource that I can't use. Head n shoulders, clear man and whatever brand that says to help the issue is cancer, poison. They did nothing but worsened my situation. Pure garbage

 

[nir7699]

Corticosteroid is a game changer

What brand of corticosteroid do you use?

 

[King Norwood]

What brand of corticosteroid do you use?

its an indian brand called diprobate plus

 

[nir7699]

its an indian brand called diprobate plus

Thanks. I'm trying to get the full ingredient list. Except Betamethasone 0.05%, Zinc Sulphate 0.5%, does it contain salicylic acid?
Also, how often do you use it and for how long? (only when there's seborrheic breakout or every evening?)

 

[Isneezedsohard]

THIS! THIS IS ME. CAN WE PLEASE TRY AND SOLVE THIS.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

Dude I have the same.
But natural stuff just didn't work for me.
My regimen works great tho.
Every morning I use medicated shampoo [rotate between keto+zinc pyrothione , selsun blue and coal tar-salicylic acid shampoo] and at night use a corticosteroid lotion (betamethasone dipropionate). Corticosteroid is a game changer in inflammation. Seb derm inflammation is really bad and shampoos alone can't suppress it.
Try this regimen bro.
My seb derm was so bad I ripped out clumps of hair (no joke fistful) trying to get the cradle cap like sh*t out.
Fortunately regrew it back.but i do still have recession.
Using finasteride+oral min (dont use topical. It'll get worse)

Are you using oral, topica, or both?

 

[Isneezedsohard]

its an indian brand called diprobate plus

How helpful have you found it to be?

 

[nir7699]

THIS! THIS IS ME. CAN WE PLEASE TRY AND SOLVE THIS.

I can give you some tips of my own.

Try changing eating habits:
Food with added oils, sugar, salt should be consumed as minimum as possible (fast food and industrial food and drinks are fool of these stuff), try making yourself the food with minimum of these additives, eat less carbohydrates and more food with fibers. Vegetables that are low in carbohydrate are high in fibers. Drink more water.

Start the morning with green tea, and have once more at least afternoon.

Do aerobic exercise (walking/running/biking/...), the more you do - the better. Try to get to 3 times a week.

Touch your hair as minimum as possible, (it agitates the follicles and produces more sebum). No hair products (except shampoo, and about the right one - one without sulfates, there is more to say about the right shampoo but I leave it for i myself not sure). Before you use shampoo check that your hair isn't dry, if it is - don't shampoo, just rinse your hair with water. The natural oil balance that the scalp have is necessary, if you dry it, it will start to produce excessive oil and that's trouble. If you choose to use topical minoxidil you might want to leave it for 3 hours (less or more, don't let it get itchy) and then rinse. Don't use minoxidil or any product with alcohol on your scalp (Most of the minoxidil products are with alcohol, but there are also some without).

 

[nir7699]

How helpful have you found it to be?

He said it was a game changer.

 

[King Norwood]

Thanks. I'm trying to get the full ingredient list. Except Betamethasone 0.05%, Zinc Sulphate 0.5%, does it contain salicylic acid?
Also, how often do you use it and for how long? (only when there's seborrheic breakout or every evening?)

I use it every night before going to sleep.I wash itib the morning. In the past I tried to taper it's use but the crusting will start again.
No it doesn't contain salicylic acid. I use a shampoo combination of coal tar and salicylic acid 2 times a week in the morning.
My morning schedule is.
Mon-keto
Tue-selsun
Wed-coal tar-salicylic acid
Thurs-keto
Fri-selsun
Sat-coal tar-salicylic acid
Sun-keto
I read somewhere on reddit to rotate the different shampoos so the malassezia fungus cant adapt to either one.
So far it works well

 

[King Norwood]

Are you using oral, topica, or both?

minoxidil? Oral. Topical irritates my scalp and i can't get foam

 

[King Norwood]

How helpful have you found it to be?

It does 70% of the work. It literally suppresses your immune response/inflammation locally. A doctor prescribed it to me many years ago but I didn't use it cuz of the inconvenience to apply it. Big mistake.

For bonus effect try finding one containing calcipotriol as well.
If ur condition is scalp psoriasis then
Betamethasone +calcipotriol shows great results.