Sex and Hairloss; Honestly Please!

[barryegan]

With all the talk on masturbation, sex, and ejaculation and it's relation to hair loss I thought I would do some research, so I thought this would be a good way to start.

HONESTLY, has anyone here that Masturbates, has sex, ejaculates, etc at LEAST once per day had any significant hair regrowth through minoxidil, finasteride, etc.

Please answer honestly, it may take guts but it could put this issue to rest. If a number of people can say that they ejaculate at least once a day, yet have had signifcant regrowth, than the question should be answered. However, I have yet to here of anyone who has, which leads me to think that the theory may be true.

HONESTY PLEASE! We will never find an answer to hairloss if we are not honest with eachother. Lets help each other out.

 

[barryegan]

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ ... 513t2.html

Wanted to add this, and this is not some website trying to sell a product, this is the JAPAN times, a top newspaper.

 

[flimflam]

that article is the biggest pile of tripe. it's a tabloid story written with the language of a broadsheet. Please.

As lifestyles change, so do sexual lifestyles, and that's why you see more young guys showing signs of premature baldness.

Right, so: hair needs protein, spunk contains protein, therefore spunking destroys your hair. lmao. if that's all it takes to convince you people then i recommend you stop shampooing too.

 

[Wave]

I don't think it is as simple as ok hair needs protein, masturbating reduces protein, hence, hair falls off. But I do think it is unfair to simply dismiss the whole masturbation theory. I wish I had the will power to just masturbate once a week or once a month (WOWOW! impossible).

 

[flimflam]

if protein is the key factor here - which is what they're implying - then your protein levels will be affected *significantly more* by your diet than by your daily teaspoon jettison of throat-yoghurt.

I suggest you eat more chicken and continue pleasuring yourself. Simultaneously, if necessary.

 

[hopewas]

i could be paranoid, but everytime i masterbate or have sex daily, my hair would be in sh*t shape and thinner. and not when i stop. i do think there's a correlation personally..hormones go up, dht kicks in more.

 

[Sean68]

I suggest you eat more chicken and continue pleasuring yourself. Simultaneously, if necessary.

:lol:

i think theres some kind of correlation too but what or why i dont know enough to say but ive noticed my hair always looks worse and feels thinner after a weekend of sexual activity (ok..wanking)

 

[s.a.f]

This is f*****g ridiculous! :roll:

HONESTLY, has anyone here that Masturbates, has sex, ejaculates, etc at LEAST once per day

So in other words you mean every man on the planet then.

 

[flimflam]

ive noticed my hair always looks worse and feels thinner after a weekend of sexual activity (ok..wanking)

hehe

but couldn't you blame that on the weekends boozing/smoking/snorting/debauchery? my face looks plain vile on a sunday morning.

 

[stnl]

When i said stop masturbating, i was referring from my own experience. I started masturbating at 15 and when i was 17 i noticed hair thinning , so i went to a doctor. The doctor said it could be due to stress. Then for an year I stopped masturbating completely, and what i realized is that my hair got "slightly" thicker and that was evident from my school id card photos and also by hours of personal mirror checking everyday for one year, under all sorts of lights. I started doing it again at 19/20 till now (23) but i have stopped it now and its been 6 days since i have stopped. The other reason why i say masturbation can cause harm is because i notice all the symptoms getting worse if i increase the frequency of ejaculation, e.g. heart palpitations, indigestion, constipation, joint pain, muscle ache, eye floaters, irregular heartbeats, dark eye circles, face swelling in morning, depression and anxiety. When i stopped masturbating completely for one year ALL those symptoms eased away and i was doing brilliantly at school once again and my stamina in sports increased as well, i could run 4.3 km in 16 minutes.

Thats my personal experience and if you research on the web you will find similar experiences from "thousands" of people. Another fact is that men that were castrated (testicles removed at puberty) never went bald, not even if they bald genes in the family. That suggests that testosterone plays an important role in hair loss. This also makes sense because post and pre world war II studies done in Japan show that baldness has increased significantly in men in Japan. Pre-world war Japanese men had a traditional lifestyle and many of them practiced abstinence and many were on low fat vegetarian diets. I have seen something similar in India , since i stayed there for a while. I noticed that the village men had fewer cases of baldness (this has also been noted in various studies) compared to the rich (city) Indian society. The farmers in northern India mainly grow wheat and also used licorice in their diet. Wheat and licorice are known to reduce testosterone in body. Farming community also practice abstinence, have vegetarian diets and have extreme exercise routine from 5am to 6pm daily (working out on farm).

I know my family history very well upto my both granddad and his brothers and none of them have even lost a single strand of hair ( imean never even receded) till their 80's. My hair loss is diffused un-patterned hair loss , very typical of illness related hair loss. I have all the symptoms of Hypothyroidism too.

 

[docj077]

I started doing it again at 19/20 till now (23) but i have stopped it now and its been 6 days since i have stopped. The other reason why i say masturbation can cause harm is because i notice all the symptoms getting worse if i increase the frequency of ejaculation, e.g. heart palpitations, indigestion, constipation, joint pain, muscle ache, eye floaters, irregular heartbeats, dark eye circles, face swelling in morning, depression and anxiety. When i stopped masturbating completely for one year ALL those symptoms eased away and i was doing brilliantly at school once again and my stamina in sports increased as well, i could run 4.3 km in 16 minutes.

Another fact is that men that were castrated (testicles removed at puberty) never went bald, not even if they bald genes in the family. That suggests that testosterone plays an important role in hair loss. This also makes sense because post and pre world war II studies done in Japan show that baldness has increased significantly in men in Japan. Pre-world war Japanese men had a traditional lifestyle and many of them practiced abstinence and many were on low fat vegetarian diets. I have seen something similar in India , since i stayed there for a while. I noticed that the village men had fewer cases of baldness (this has also been noted in various studies) compared to the rich (city) Indian society. The farmers in northern India mainly grow wheat and also used licorice in their diet. Wheat and licorice are known to reduce testosterone in body. Farming community also practice abstinence, have vegetarian diets and have extreme exercise routine from 5am to 6pm daily (working out on farm).

My hair loss is diffused un-patterned hair loss , very typical of illness related hair loss. I have all the symptoms of Hypothyroidism too.

You have some serious problems with how you view not only your own health, but the general health of balding men. Not only that, but you also seem to think that epidemiology and geography play absolutely no part in inheritance of male pattern baldness genes.


Perhaps you have hypothyroidism...perhaps you don't. If you think you do, then get off your *** and get tested. It's not a difficult test. TSH and Free T4 will tell you everything you need to know. You may think that you have all the symptoms of hypothyroidism, but you also have all the signs clinical depression and perhaps you even have a hint of hypochondriac thrown in with a somatization disorder. To be honest, if your hypothyroidism is severe enough, all you need is to test your relexes. Hyporeflexia is a huge red flag for hypothyroidism.

Generalized and global thinning can have an underlying thyroid cause, but in your case I think you need to simply think about how you treat your body. If masturbation drains you of that much energy, then it's pretty obvious to me that you're either staying up late doing it or you simply are not adequately nourishing your body with the nutrients it requires. Plus, depression is something that you may find is incredibly stressful to the body.



When you look at villagers that have lived in villages all their lives and all their ancestors are from the same area with very little gene flow into the area don't be surprised when you don't see male pattern baldness in those individuals. If the necessary genes are never brought into the gene pool, then they can never be expressed. Unfortunately, individuals that live in big cities have access to a very large gene pool with a far greater chance of inheriting mutated genes as a result.

With regards to Japan, it is quite likely that they are missing portions of their diet that had been there for hundreds of years. Simply claiming that a westernized diet is to blame is incorrect. Japanese men have male pattern baldness, because they have the necessary gene mutations for male pattern baldness. They will go bald regardless of what they eat. It takes A LOT of soy and green tea to adequately reduce the production of DHT via five alpha reductase. I mean, that would have to be all that you ate and drank everyday for the duration of your entire life and even still the inhibition isn't as good as propecia and not even close to as good as avodart and people still have male pattern baldness with these drugs. Abstinence also raises testosterone levels, so that pretty much throws that theory out the window.

 

[stnl]

"Abstinence also raises testosterone levels, so that pretty much throws that theory out the window."

NO, infact if u look at the monks they have low testostrone levels. YES abstinence raises testostrone levels initially like after a week, but if u practice absitinense for over a year ur testostrone levels will reduce significantly , same as the monks.
the study (chinese study with 28 males stopping ejaculation for a week) was only for a WEEK so yes testostrone is gonna go up cuz ur body is used to producing it but eventually after a few months it will go down.


and you answered everything but what about my own experience of slight regrowth after stopping masturbation for an year when i was 17 ?????

 

[barryegan]

THE BOTTOM LINE IS;

If you notice, out of everyone that has looked at this topic, not a single person can HONESTLY say so far, that they have had significant regrowth when continuing to ejaculate daily. I was not saying that the JAPAN times article was worth anything, I was merely adding it on to see what everyone thought. However, once again I say; can anyone honestly say that their hair has improved while ejajulating once a day? Because I know many people, including myself, who have noticed an improvement when they stopped or vastly reduced ejaculation. I just wish it was not so difficult.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

noobs

 

[docj077]

"Abstinence also raises testosterone levels, so that pretty much throws that theory out the window."

NO, infact if u look at the monks they have low testostrone levels. YES abstinence raises testostrone levels initially like after a week, but if u practice absitinense for over a year ur testostrone levels will reduce significantly , same as the monks.
the study (chinese study with 28 males stopping ejaculation for a week) was only for a WEEK so yes testostrone is gonna go up cuz ur body is used to producing it but eventually after a few months it will go down.


and you answered everything but what about my own experience of slight regrowth after stopping masturbation for an year when i was 17 ?????

Whatever was found in monks that practice abstinence is irrelevant to this discussion. There is no physiological mechanism that should cause testosterone levels to decrease over a long period of time in males other than their normal hormonal rhythms. Does this study that you mentioned test the testosterone levels at the beginning and after a few months? With the lack of women within the area of the monks, have you ruled out that perhaps they simply lacked the visual and pheromone cues that are quite possibly a natural supplement to male sexuality? It is a well known fact that a major cause of increased testosterone in men is the possibility of sexual activity.


Why do you think that you had "slight" regrowth? If you were seventeen and you just recently started losing your hair, then abstinence should have been so efficient that you would have regrown all your hair! If abstinence lowers testosterone levels as much as you think, then why are you here in the first place? You've simply proved that abstinence is either impossible or that you simply didn't have the results that you claim.


The most effective way to lower testosterone production without medication is to stop thinking about sex and remove all things sexual from you life. Hence, we have monks with low testosterone.


I'm not even going to discuss the impact of abstinence on the prostate and the development of prostate cancer. There is a reason that urologists recommend masturbation as a means of preventing prostatic inflammation while lowering the cancer risk.

 

[stnl]

"Why do you think that you had "slight" regrowth? If you were seventeen and you just recently started losing your hair, then abstinence should have been so efficient that you would have regrown all your hair! If abstinence lowers testosterone levels as much as you think, then why are you here in the first place? You've simply proved that abstinence is either impossible or that you simply didn't have the results that you claim. "


1) i had slight regrowth because i only had slight hair loss.

2) I'm here because over masturbation has given me hormonal imbalance and im looking to correct that AND i want to take finasteride and nizoral to speed up the regrowth

3) dont cry just because u cant control yourself

 

[Wave]

I think everyone needs to just calm down. I for one dont know what to believe. Maybe masturbation aid in the destruction of hair, maybe it doesn't. What I do know is that nearly everyone on here is afraid to even think that it does so many simply just brush it off as some ridiculous idea. If you don't want to believe it, then don't. Let someone else try it and see how they go. For me, I will try as hard as possible (this will be my 30th attempt at tryign to stop masturbating for a month), will it work? probably not.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I think everyone needs to just calm down. I for one dont know what to believe. Maybe masturbation aid in the destruction of hair, maybe it doesn't. What I do know is that nearly everyone on here is afraid to even think that it does so many simply just brush it off as some ridiculous idea. If you don't want to believe it, then don't. Let someone else try it and see how they go. For me, I will try as hard as possible (this will be my 30th attempt at tryign to stop masturbating for a month), will it work? probably not.

even if you stop for a month....that will do nothing for your hair loss...a month is nothing.

whats gonna stop you from cumming in your pants while your sleeping.

 

[Nathaniel]

The Gardener or someone did a chewbaca technique where he didn't jack off regularly for like a year and he said it didn't benefit his hair.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions ... sturbation

Here is the plot. one of the funniest sh*t you'll ever read btw.

 

[beaner]

I shoot a load at least once a day, sometimes more and I've had significant regrowth from a min/finasteride combo. There, are you happy? I have no pictures to prove it so don't bother asking, you'll just have to take my word for it. If you look through my posts, you'll see me occassionally mention my progress.