I’m sorry...... let me get another whiskey and maybe I’ll understand this better...... why do I take it so seriously? HAHAHAHA. Let me read back through your many, many defensive responses. But with my low IQ, I still may not get it. Hold please........
Shiseido - Rch01 Clinical Trial Pdf
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Yeah i agree. When you start surpassing 30, especially mid 30's i dont think its as bad, it's quite common. But for someone who is in their early twenties when your trying to get experience with girls/find a partner... it can be quite a hit to your looks at that age. Ages you a lot, so you date older women right? Well they like men their age or older generally.
Did you have your babies before or after you went bald?
Sounds like you were together a good while before you lost your hair, though. That allowed you to operate at full confidence to start and the bond to build based on that.
Not crying over here, because compared to many my life is fine, but I as a human have a complete failure of hair genes. My hair was already sh*t quality at age 12 and I literally started going bald at 14-15. By 18, the horseshoe pattern was already coming out in full swing. I would not wish this failure of genes on anyone else. It's been horrific. It comes from my father's side. My grandfather lost most of his hair in his 20s-30s, my dad the same, and for some reason the gene decided to accelerate itself by a whole decade for me. Not 20s. Teens. I just want people to understand how awful this is. It constantly makes me feel like I'm a genetic failure. I really looked forward to being a dad some day because I like kids and would really enjoy the role, but at the same time I'm not sure because I do not want to pass on this pathetic biological trait to them.
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『Shiseido & RepliCel A near-futuristic hair regenerative medicine RCH-01 Official announcement of safety and improvement!』
http://hairlosscure100.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-315.html
http://hairlosscure100.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-315.html
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I like that Shiseido are still pushing this as an effective treatment despite the disappointment from the hair loss community. Even though it's barely maintenance a press release like this indicates they might still want to commercialise after all.
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No, do hair transplant and keep ur existing hair with meds
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From Shiseido/Follicle thought
“In this clinical study, we confirmed the safety and effectiveness of cell therapy technology and we aim to develop cell therapy for a wide range of people suffering from sickness and thinning hair.”
[Future research development and ripple effects]
“In this clinical study, S-DSCTM was injected only once into a small area of the thinning hair to increase the effective cell concentration. Decided and confirmed safety. However, in order to actually use it in clinical practice,It must be administered multiple times throughout the thinning hair area to show a visible therapeutic effect and safety. We will conduct clinical research for this purpose in the future.”
Maybe they're going to add some of their own research and so on, who knows, still seems like sh*t or they didn't go full scale, just a small injection
“In this clinical study, we confirmed the safety and effectiveness of cell therapy technology and we aim to develop cell therapy for a wide range of people suffering from sickness and thinning hair.”
[Future research development and ripple effects]
“In this clinical study, S-DSCTM was injected only once into a small area of the thinning hair to increase the effective cell concentration. Decided and confirmed safety. However, in order to actually use it in clinical practice,It must be administered multiple times throughout the thinning hair area to show a visible therapeutic effect and safety. We will conduct clinical research for this purpose in the future.”
Maybe they're going to add some of their own research and so on, who knows, still seems like sh*t or they didn't go full scale, just a small injection
For what it's worth.
Shiseido Releases RCH-01 Trial Results 2020
Update (3/9/20) : Shiseido May Still Pursue RCH-01
Today, a joint press release from Tokyo Medical University, Toho University, and Shiseido Co. was shared with me. This press release was issued on March 6, 2020 and contains details about the RCH-01 trial results which were also published online last week. Tokyo Medical University and Toho University are the two institutions which carried out the RCH-01 trials in conjunction with Shiseido. The press release contains some interesting quotes which are likely unexpected by most of the audience. Let’s take a look at what was said:
“In this clinical study, we confirmed the safety and effectiveness of cell therapy technology and we aim to develop cell therapy for a wide range of people suffering from sickness and thinning hair.”
[Future research development and ripple effects]
“In this clinical study, S-DSCTM was injected only once into a small area of the thinning hair to increase the effective cell concentration. Decided and confirmed safety. However, in order to actually use it in clinical practice,It must be administered multiple times throughout the thinning hair area to show a visible therapeutic effect and safety. We will conduct clinical research for this purpose in the future.”
Shiseido and their co-institutions clearly state that they aim to develop the cell therapy to offer it to patients in the future and they will conduct clinical trials using RCH-01 (S-DSCTM) in the future. I think many people would have guessed that Shiseido was done with dermal sheath cup therapies after the modest results from their trial, however, that may not be the case according to this press release. It’s quite a turn of events, what do the readers think about this latest statement from Shiseido? Comment below.
Shiseido Releases RCH-01 Trial Results 2020
Update (3/9/20) : Shiseido May Still Pursue RCH-01
Today, a joint press release from Tokyo Medical University, Toho University, and Shiseido Co. was shared with me. This press release was issued on March 6, 2020 and contains details about the RCH-01 trial results which were also published online last week. Tokyo Medical University and Toho University are the two institutions which carried out the RCH-01 trials in conjunction with Shiseido. The press release contains some interesting quotes which are likely unexpected by most of the audience. Let’s take a look at what was said:
“In this clinical study, we confirmed the safety and effectiveness of cell therapy technology and we aim to develop cell therapy for a wide range of people suffering from sickness and thinning hair.”
[Future research development and ripple effects]
“In this clinical study, S-DSCTM was injected only once into a small area of the thinning hair to increase the effective cell concentration. Decided and confirmed safety. However, in order to actually use it in clinical practice,It must be administered multiple times throughout the thinning hair area to show a visible therapeutic effect and safety. We will conduct clinical research for this purpose in the future.”
Shiseido and their co-institutions clearly state that they aim to develop the cell therapy to offer it to patients in the future and they will conduct clinical trials using RCH-01 (S-DSCTM) in the future. I think many people would have guessed that Shiseido was done with dermal sheath cup therapies after the modest results from their trial, however, that may not be the case according to this press release. It’s quite a turn of events, what do the readers think about this latest statement from Shiseido? Comment below.
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I do think these companies are missing the bigger picture here... I’d love a relatively side effect free maintenance treatment.
If something like this could provide maintenance for 1-2 injections a year, I could go get a FUE and no longer worry about hairloss. Such a shame really!
If something like this could provide maintenance for 1-2 injections a year, I could go get a FUE and no longer worry about hairloss. Such a shame really!
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why every six months when peak it around 9 month mark?
tsuji is so far away that it doesn't make sense, no proof of concept in humans no need to think about it as an option.
If we go by the graph, the at 6 months it wouldn't be better, if lower dose is better than medium and high doses. So could be there is something to the case about "oversaturation". Even though medium started to increase after 12 months.
What we really don't know is, do we need something like 1-2 times a year to maintain growth, or can stay at the one dose for 1-2 years with medium dose. SHiseido should soon have 2 year data after the we have access to which is from 2018 if i remember right where they stated to do a two year evaluation after that study.
Tsuji could do many things, but we have seen many brilliant results in mice and what not that didn't translate well into humans, and that is what Tsuji still need to prove. Do they have the knowledge and resources to reach those results in humans or not?
No matter what, Tsuji is far away in the horizon, even if they got started next month, they still have the whole cell multiplication process and so on, and make sure that doesn't end up with cancer cells and so on which there will be a high risk of when doing cell replication in big scale. And we haven't heard anything about optimization in how to Tsuji avoid that hurdle within cell multiplication for hair cells.
They have cleared all the hurdles you are talking about
You’re right. Pills are so much easier.... that said, we are leaving out the fact that (putting aside finasteride’s side effect profile) finasteride is not a guarantee for maintenance. Works great for some. Not at all for others, and in those for whom it does work, many times it loses effectiveness over the long haul. I think IF (and It’s a big assumption) Shiseido works like we’d all hoped, but for a shorter duration, I think in time plenty of people would have no problem getting the treatment done. Also, in time, trips to Japan will not be needed as the treatment spreads overseas. Getting needles in your face every three months for wrinkles, sucks. And yet, I don’t know many women that don’t do it. Hell I know plenty of men who do. I think if word were out there that there was a side less maintenance option, folks would jump on board. Again, I’m assuming things working out well..... which they often don’t.
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What is this a joke? This was supposed to be the guy that was gonna save us all? Pathetic.
I’m outta here, spent way too much time on this forum hoping for an alternative to fina. The harsh truth though is that finasteride in the only thing that can at least halt/slow down male pattern baldness. Nothing else works. Good luck to you all!
Jonny
I’m outta here, spent way too much time on this forum hoping for an alternative to fina. The harsh truth though is that finasteride in the only thing that can at least halt/slow down male pattern baldness. Nothing else works. Good luck to you all!
Jonny