Shouldn't We Raise Awareness For Androgenetic Alopecia

[-Synergy-]

Why is hair loss considered a cosmetic problem when it isn't? This hair loss problem is really a disease that affects the mind by destroying youth, hope, and life for most of us on this forum. I can't even begin to explain how depressed my hair loss is making me. This past couple of months, I have been treating my body like garbage, my personality has become aggressive/suicidal, and I can't sleep because in my brain all I can think about is that next treatment that might save me before it is too late. Well, it is pretty much too late for my hair because 90% of it is gone and the rest is sick and lifeless. I don't have to continue explaining the mental effects of hair loss because all of you already know them very well. With research moving as slow as it is there will never be a cure for any of us. It seems everybody here will still be talking about a cure 10 years from now with less hair, money, and more frustration. This year I finally made an account on this forum after scanning discussions and reading posts since 2008 and nothing on the horizon has changed really as far as treatments are concerned. Also, I have read many threads on tressless and baldtruthtaIk related to hair loss causing self-esteem, relationship, suicide, and career issues. We live in the 21st century and this has gone too far. I encourage all of you to think about how your lives would be different if you never lost your hair, could permanently fix it before it became any more extreme or bring it all back. Then I would tell you to stop because it is depressing and you live in that fantasy on a regular basis anyway. I find it hard to believe that this problem can't be solved with modern technology. What I do believe is that nobody cares or not enough laboratories around the world are taking this hair loss problem seriously. There are almost 70,000 members on this forum to date and many forums like this one are springing up everywhere. This forum and others like it are helpful to users experiencing this life-altering event that is eventually permanent. I am always seeing commercials late at night selling snake oils that will never work and sensing desperation in posts members make while asking other members for advice. What I don't see is any awareness being raised to motivate society into taking this problem seriously. Everyone here is insecure about their hair loss and fear others will judge them and people that know very little about alopecia can sometimes judge harshly. I could go on forever but don't have to because you already know. I would like to know if there is any way we could raise awareness. This forum and others like it have already raised a community. What if everyone here donated to some action that informed others about this psychological threat and asked for support. I know that sounds foolish, but if something isn't done we will all remain hidden in these forums and have to live with some fool selling us the next best pill that grows hair but turns skin gang green. The treatments for alopecia are getting old and a cure needs to be found. I want to know what you all think about ways to raise awareness so pressure can be placed on science to innovate. If communities were brought together and snake oil commercials were replaced with awareness commercials maybe we would get to a cure faster or already have one.

 

[Sonolmn98]

I agree with you, it is more devastating when it hits you young, I was heavily thining at 17 and I studied male pattern baldness well and concluded that it was the androgens, I asked my doctor for anti androgens but he refused to prescribe me one and gave me anti inflammatory shampoo which didn't work, everyone didn't hear me struggle and told me to man up and accept it, so I ended up castrating myself at home and I was sent to the emergency due to gangrene, iam currently under a psychiatrist supervision, and mental illness is out of control because of baldness, I hope science will wake up, the cure is there but no one want to turn into a eunuch for hair, male pattern baldness drove me insane, fu#k this earth

 

[-Synergy-]

I agree with you, it is more devastating when it hits you young, I was heavily thining at 17 and I studied male pattern baldness well and concluded that it was the androgens, I asked my doctor for anti androgens but he refused to prescribe me one and gave me anti inflammatory shampoo which didn't work, everyone didn't hear me struggle and told me to man up and accept it, so I ended up castrating myself at home and I was sent to the emergency due to gangrene, iam currently under a psychiatrist supervision, and mental illness is out of control because of baldness, I hope science will wake up, the cure is there but no one want to turn into a eunuch for hair, male pattern baldness drove me insane, fu#k this earth

Sonolmn your really strong to have gone through so much and I am glad you have somebody to talk to. The people around me aren’t listening, but I have never really had anyone to talk to anyways because people just don’t care I guess. However, if people knew your story and stories similar to yours then they would understand that pain is relative in that only the individual experiencing it can truly judge the trauma. That trauma however deep can cause a person to feel negative in a variety of ways and try to free themselves from the situation inappropriately out of desperation. In other words, that doctor that didn’t give you the anti androgens should be kicked in the mouth. I am sick of people thinking that as guys we should accept this s**t. Anyway, I think the world is just ignorant to this matter and stories like yours would educate them.

 

[genetically_cursed]

yeah, man. im 25, i feel robbed of my best youth years. very very few males out of all i see on the street my age have thinning and hair loss, its f*****g bullshit.

untill at least 30 you shouldnt face such aging problems as greying or hair loss. life is a f*****g cold unforgiving ruthless b**ch wh***.

 

[arnoldd]

If females were going bald im sure there would be a solution to this fucki.ng shi.t.

 

[-Synergy-]

yeah, man. im 25, i feel robbed of my best youth years. very very few males out of all i see on the street my age have thinning and hair loss, its f*****g bullshit.

untill at least 30 you shouldnt face such aging problems as greying or hair loss. life is a f*****g cold unforgiving ruthless b**ch wh***.

Yeah for guys our age there shouldn’t be even slight thinning. I read somewhere that only about 20% of men start losing their hair in their 20s. If I could trade hair loss for pre mature greying I would in a heartbeat. My grandfather had a thick silver head of hair with no recession and he lived till about 80. The other side of my family is all Norwood 7.

If females were going bald im sure there would be a solution to this fucki.ng shi.t.

It really isn’t fair for anyone man. It isn’t fair for that female model or little girl with alopecia universalis or female pattern hair loss. It isn’t fair for that twenty something year old male that is just beginning his prime and entering the dating scene. This is very very wrong and as a community we need to start kicking science in the @$$. Instead of us being scattered all over these forums we need to come together and drive a fist into this life threatening disease. Why are we making progress in cancer treatments, interplanetary travel, etc and not hair loss? These people with power and fame that can make a difference are afraid to admit they are losing their hair because they are embarrassed. This needs to stop because hair isn’t just about me or you. It is part of our culture and origin as a species.

 

[Wisemiller]

I think men should shoulder some responsibility for this as well and that comes from our lack of education at a young age. The only reason we have male pattern baldness still is because historically men reproduced at a young age. Once you are sexually successful, male pattern baldness doesn't really matter. These days people wait till late 20s or early 30s to have kids, and this is very dangerous in the age of social media, where even slight recession or thinning can dramatically reduce your odds of reproduction. They have to educate young men as teenagers to consider this - if you are likely to bald as a young man, things such as university degrees, partying, world travel, whatever, these things need to be put out of your mind if you wish to avoid genetic death. But no, every young man has an older self image in their mind that they will age like George Clooney.

 

[tomJ]

If your going to bald fast then my advice to marry someone young before it gets too bad..of course only of she is a winner. Most recognize this but I'm a fool and now I'm screwed.

 

[-Synergy-]

I think men should shoulder some responsibility for this as well and that comes from our lack of education at a young age. The only reason we have male pattern baldness still is because historically men reproduced at a young age. Once you are sexually successful, male pattern baldness doesn't really matter. These days people wait till late 20s or early 30s to have kids, and this is very dangerous in the age of social media, where even slight recession or thinning can dramatically reduce your odds of reproduction. They have to educate young men as teenagers to consider this - if you are likely to bald as a young man, things such as university degrees, partying, world travel, whatever, these things need to be put out of your mind if you wish to avoid genetic death. But no, every young man has an older self image in their mind that they will age like George Clooney.

A hair loss cure would probably be the beginning of a breakthrough in organ regeneration.

https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article/17/R1/R54/693639

I get what you are saying, but we shouldn't have to rush when life expectancy is growing and has changed since caveman days. I thought the same thing to myself a while back, so it's interesting you bring it up. We have to eliminate the thoughts of everything else important in the world to use our nuts because we have hair then after our hairs gone our nuts don't work next wtf. Unless you transplant nut hair idk?

 

[karatekid]

. I read somewhere that only about 20% of men start losing their hair in their 20s.

Where did you read this lie? There is MUCH bigger percentage of men start balding in their 20s, I would say definitely more than 50%.

 

[-Synergy-]

Where did you read this lie? There is MUCH bigger percentage of men start balding in their 20s, I would say definitely more than 50%.

Yeah karate you could be right. I think for some reason hairloss in younger guys is becoming more and more common.

 

[Baldy12345]

Ya hair loss is common in your 20s, but not all of the 20 year old males who experience hair loss will bald in their 30s or 40s. That’s why the percentages r kinda accurate, most 20 year olds will experience a slight recession aka “mature hairline”, again that’s not balding. While other 20 year olds will advance to a Norwood 3+ and these make up the 20% of those balding dudes in their 20s.

 

[karatekid]

Ya hair loss is common in your 20s, but not all of the 20 year old males who experience hair loss will bald in their 30s or 40s. That’s why the percentages r kinda accurate, most 20 year olds will experience a slight recession aka “mature hairline”, again that’s not balding. While other 20 year olds will advance to a Norwood 3+ and these make up the 20% of those balding dudes in their 20s.

First, I dont like this "mature hairline" crap, I dont care how you call it, but it is just losing hair, which make you like sh*t anyway. less hair -> shittier look, simple.
But anyway I still think the percentage is higher. Just by counting all the guys I know in their 20s which has medium to severe hairloss, it will sum to 50-60 percent.

 

[Baldy12345]

A Norwood 1 or 2 doesn’t look bad on older dudes (20-30), a monkey hairline on older men looks odd compared to a slight recession on the temples, keep in mind that only 5% of Caucasian men will keep a rainbow looking hairline for the rest of their life’s.

 

[-Synergy-]

First, I dont like this "mature hairline" crap, I dont care how you call it, but it is just losing hair, which make you like sh*t anyway. less hair -> shittier look, simple.
But anyway I still think the percentage is higher. Just by counting all the guys I know in their 20s which has medium to severe hairloss, it will sum to 50-60 percent.

A Norwood 1 or 2 doesn’t look bad on older dudes (20-30), a monkey hairline on older men looks odd compared to a slight recession on the temples, keep in mind that only 5% of Caucasian men will keep a rainbow looking hairline for the rest of their life’s.

It doesn't matter what amount of hair loss is acceptable or unacceptable because even the amount of loss that is acceptable will eventually progress. I was happy with my Norwood 2-2.5 hairline, and now I am at a Norwood 3 diffuse and 24. I personally feel that it is going to take another 20 years for a cure, but with the recent attention hair loss has been getting in the media it doesn't have to. We have celebrities like Ashton Kutcher, Bradley Cooper, Matthew McConaughey and probably a lot more we don't know about dealing with hair loss like us including women. I mean even our president is taking Propecia because he is worried about hair loss. I admire these celebrities for speaking up because now other celebrities will feel more comfortable in doing the same. This is the best time to tip the scale in our favor for a cure within the next couple of years instead of 20 years or more. I know Dr. Takashi Tsuji is working on a cure, but will he just end up failing like everyone else before him? There have been companies in the past that attempted hair cloning and eventually ran out of funds and just gave it up. These days it would be easier to build awareness about this problem when we have celebrities and other figures that aren't afraid to admit they can relate. I think hair loss is an area that should be getting researched extensively by everyone because the answers would be important to regenerative medicine.

 

[genetically_cursed]

i'd gladly take norwood 2.5 that i have now for rest of my life if it didnt progress and diffuse on top of it all
but well, thats not happening for me unfortunately
life is an absolute bollox joke
imagine how easy life wold be, had you not have to encounter this terrible soul crushing problem in your early 20s?
what the actual f***

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

You can't be diffuse AND norwood whatever at the same time, it doesn't make any sense, and i don't recall seeing one study mentioning this, you should give your scalp to science, maybe they can come up with a new scale just for you.

Choose your poison

 

[-Synergy-]

You can't be diffuse AND norwood whatever at the same time, it doesn't make any sense, and i don't recall seeing one study mentioning this, you should give your scalp to science, maybe they can come up with a new scale just for you.

Choose your poison

Lol what dude **** the studies because I own a mirror and I am looking at it. My hair has thinned dramatically all over from dupa or a Telogen Effluvium and is only getting worse. If it is a Telogen Effluvium then male pattern hair loss isn’t going to allow it to grow back normal. I do have a receding hairline and a spot forming on my crown while everywhere else is only slightly thicker.

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

Lol what dude **** the studies because I own a mirror and I am looking at it. My hair has thinned dramatically all over from dupa or a Telogen Effluvium and is only getting worse. If it is a Telogen Effluvium then male pattern hair loss isn’t going to allow it to grow back normal. I do have a receding hairline and a spot forming on my crown while everywhere else is only slightly thicker.

So Male Pattern Baldness it is
And if you lost some cause of a shock stress (Telogen Effluvium) then it will regrow, Androgenetic Alopecia will not block the regrowth, but will do damages over time and miniaturization, nothing like simply bloking regrowth once a healthy hair falls.

Actually, before miniaturization reach the final point, there's still some hair cycles, depends on the agressivity

 

[swingline747]

dude Ive been saying for YEARS now here that this place needs to start some kind of awareness movement but nobody ever gets behind it.... youre yelling down and empty hallway of full rooms with closed doors