Shouldn't We Raise Awareness For Androgenetic Alopecia

[-Synergy-]

So Male Pattern Baldness it is
And if you lost some cause of a shock stress (Telogen Effluvium) then it will regrow, Androgenetic Alopecia will not block the regrowth, but will do damages over time and miniaturization, nothing like simply bloking regrowth once a healthy hair falls.

Actually, before miniaturization reach the final point, there's still some hair cycles, depends on the agressivity

I feel like minoxidil gave me a terrible Telogen Effluvium and the alcohol added dermatitis to the mix. Now if I could just fix this dermatitis things would be great and I am thinking about low dose oral minoxidil around 5-7mg?

dude Ive been saying for YEARS now here that this place needs to start some kind of awareness movement but nobody ever gets behind it.... youre yelling down and empty hallway of full rooms with closed doors

If we build it they will come or at least there is a more likely chance they will come. Idk man you showed up and sorry the idea isn’t original. I have a decent amount of knowledge when it comes to web development and designing so those are the skills I can offer this movement. If you have any talents to add it would be even better. What we need is a webpage on this website or just build a website. After some marketing to the public through radio and television giving them the link to the site and a number they can call to offer donation so we can further fund and expand the awareness of androgenetic hair loss until science feels like they are getting screamed at for a cure 24 hours a day 7 days a weak. If anybody has skills they can offer it would be great.

 

[swingline747]

I feel like minoxidil gave me a terrible Telogen Effluvium and the alcohol added dermatitis to the mix. Now if I could just fix this dermatitis things would be great and I am thinking about low dose oral minoxidil around 5-7mg?


If we build it they will come or at least there is a more likely chance they will come. Idk man you showed up and sorry the idea isn’t original. I have a decent amount of knowledge when it comes to web development and designing so those are the skills I can offer this movement. If you have any talents to add it would be even better. What we need is a webpage on this website or just build a website. After some marketing to the public through radio and television giving them the link to the site and a number they can call to offer donation so we can further fund and expand the awareness of androgenetic hair loss until science feels like they are getting screamed at for a cure 24 hours a day 7 days a weak. If anybody has skills they can offer it would be great.

I've offered the exact same thing countless amount of times

and also have some web development skills so if you're truly interested and would like to start something p.m. me and we can talk

 

[-Synergy-]

I've offered the exact same thing countless amount of times

and also have some web development skills so if you're truly interested and would like to start something p.m. me and we can talk

I am definitely interested in taking this seriously and starting something like a foundation around androgenetic alopecia awareness. I have to warn you though that I am really busy and trying to handle my depression at the moment, but otherwise, I do want to start something that will cause this problem to get more attention. I would prefer to communicate on this thread in the open as much as possible so others can witness and join if they choose to. My plan was to just start off simple with a home page that lists all available treatment options for hair loss that we know of at the moment and hear about from other members of this forum and the clinical studies behind them. As far as a server is concerned we could set up a Linux VM or go through a hosting service. I have no idea maybe you have some ideas about a server and however much data we might be working with. It all depends because I can do some database architecture, designing (css and photo editing), and coding but I am not that good with JavaScript.

Add in a list of treatments like this maybe: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...available-treatments-help-appreciated.119820/

 

[swingline747]

I am definitely interested in taking this seriously and starting something like a foundation around androgenetic alopecia awareness. I have to warn you though that I am really busy and trying to handle my depression at the moment, but otherwise, I do want to start something that will cause this problem to get more attention. I would prefer to communicate on this thread in the open as much as possible so others can witness and join if they choose to. My plan was to just start off simple with a home page that lists all available treatment options for hair loss that we know of at the moment and hear about from other members of this forum and the clinical studies behind them. As far as a server is concerned we could set up a Linux VM or go through a hosting service. I have no idea maybe you have some ideas about a server and however much data we might be working with. It all depends because I can do some database architecture, designing (css and photo editing), and coding but I am not that good with JavaScript.

Add in a list of treatments like this maybe: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...available-treatments-help-appreciated.119820/

On a web front, its pretty much easiest to just use something like wordpress. I was big into HTML/CSS but am rusty, I can pick it back up fast though. Using wordpress you basically have a built in databse, with social network features. Ill send you something very basic in a PM after. It was a site I started a while back and left to kind of sit.
Its just a basic forum.
The biggest thing with a site is just content. If you can write good content then people will go.

 

[INT]

Why is hair loss considered a cosmetic problem when it isn't? This hair loss problem is really a disease that affects the mind by destroying youth, hope, and life for most of us on this forum. I can't even begin to explain how depressed my hair loss is making me.

Sorry but hair loss IS a cosmetic problem. It is making you depressed because of how it is ruining your appearance in your eyes. It does not directly cause depression, only because of the value you attach to your hair and looks, which makes it a cosmetic problem.

 

[-Synergy-]

No, you are wrong and I am sure others would agree with me from the stories I have heard. It isn’t just me that values my hair but society values the appeal of hair as well. The social norm of having hair is greater than not having hair in our culture. As a result, those that experience hair loss feel a lot less normal than those that don’t lose their hair. This will cause a person to become depressed and abandon psychological needs such as esteem and relationships. People can consider an individual with hair loss as generically inferior or under average. We judge people in society by their appearance even though we don’t want to admit it. Long story short the result is a person depressed and delayed self-actualization and if you don’t think so why don’t you stop looking at threads based on the impact of hair loss. Lol because hair loss has impacted you negatively and now you are looking for people to communicate with that can relate. I would like for you to give me an example of what in this world does cause depression directly?

 

[INT]

No, you are wrong and I am sure others would agree with me from the stories I have heard. It isn’t just me that values my hair but society values the appeal of hair as well. The social norm of having hair is greater than not having hair in our culture. As a result, those that experience hair loss feel a lot less normal than those that don’t lose their hair. This will cause a person to become depressed and abandon psychological needs such as esteem and relationships. People can consider an individual with hair loss as generically inferior or under average. We judge people in society by their appearance even though we don’t want to admit it. Long story short the result is a person depressed and delayed self-actualization and if you don’t think so why don’t you stop looking at threads based on the impact of hair loss. Lol because hair loss has impacted you negatively and now you are looking for people to communicate with that can relate. I would like for you to give me an example of what in this world does cause depression directly?

You are strawmanning me. One of the reasons why you value your hair is because of the importance of looks in our society. This is still a cosmetic issue. Being depressed because of your looks is being depressed because of a cosmetic issue. Same thing goes for being fat, short, having a big nose etc.

 

[swingline747]

You are strawmanning me. One of the reasons why you value your hair is because of the importance of looks in our society. This is still a cosmetic issue. Being depressed because of your looks is being depressed because of a cosmetic issue. Same thing goes for being fat, short, having a big nose etc.

my argument though is that fat people can get medical assistance through their insurance.... we can not. A smoker can use medical for health complications they technically caused themselves, same as a drinker or drug abuser..... so if hairloss is the root cause of your depression why not use medical insurance, you usually pay into, to fix it?

 

[INT]

my argument though is that fat people can get medical assistance through their insurance.... we can not. A smoker can use medical for health complications they technically caused themselves, same as a drinker or drug abuser..... so if hairloss is the root cause of your depression why not use medical insurance, you usually pay into, to fix it?

Ok. So what is your point?

 

[swingline747]

Ok. So what is your point?

thats its not just cosmetic, and by proxy treated a bit unfairly

 

[INT]

thats its not just cosmetic, and by proxy treated a bit unfairly

Would you care about it if you were blind and the whole world was blind? No, so it is cosmetic.

 

[swingline747]

Would you care about it if you were blind and the whole world was blind? No, so it is cosmetic.

that is one of the dumbests thing Ive ever heard, thats a hypothetical on such a spectrum its inconceivable to even answer. In the end you dont know how you'd feel

1) because if we were all blind wed more than likely be dead anyway or scurrying for the most meager of survivals
2) you might since you can feel hair, touch it and know its there.

A blind woman might get disgusted feeling a guys body hair, why wouldnt she be turned off feeling a guys bald/ing head?

Would fat people care about being fat if they were blind? no one would know youre fat if they didnt touch you (kind of like bald). Would smokers have smoked? I guess not cause how would luxuries like cigarettes get made anyway....

thats as dumb a question as when people ask "how would you like if YOU were never born"

I dunno dummy, I guess Id have no opinion since I wouldnt exists...... Its a question that has literally zero answer.

On the other end, we're not blind, society puts an undue emphasis on looks and hair on men, and it would be nice to have the same luxuries of medical assistance that all the asshats who cause their own problems have. Its funny I could say Im depressed due to hairloss and use my insurance for psychiatric help, but not for a hair transplant or treatments..... so odd.

 

[INT]

that is one of the dumbests thing Ive ever heard, thats a hypothetical on such a spectrum its inconceivable to even answer. In the end you dont know how you'd feel

1) because if we were all blind wed more than likely be dead anyway or scurrying for the most meager of survivals
2) you might since you can feel hair, touch it and know its there.

A blind woman might get disgusted feeling a guys body hair, why wouldnt she be turned off feeling a guys bald/ing head?

Would fat people care about being fat if they were blind? no one would know youre fat if they didnt touch you (kind of like bald). Would smokers have smoked? I guess not cause how would luxuries like cigarettes get made anyway....

thats as dumb a question as when people ask "how would you like if YOU were never born"

I dunno dummy, I guess Id have no opinion since I wouldnt exists...... Its a question that has literally zero answer.

On the other end, we're not blind, society puts an undue emphasis on looks and hair on men, and it would be nice to have the same luxuries of medical assistance that all the asshats who cause their own problems have. Its funny I could say Im depressed due to hairloss and use my insurance for psychiatric help, but not for a hair transplant or treatments..... so odd.

Ok. You just feel like arguing right?

 

[swingline747]

Ok. You just feel like arguing right?

Why? Because I pointed out the outright ignorance of that question/statement? It was meant to be one of those bombshell drops that ends it all but it backfired. Argue if you want, Im not super interested but Ill entertain.

also why is "debating" arguing to you?

 

[INT]

Why? Because I pointed out the outright ignorance of that question/statement? It was meant to be one of those bombshell drops that ends it all but it backfired. Argue if you want, Im not super interested but Ill entertain.

also why is "debating" arguing to you?

You did not point out anything. You give yourself too much credit, which is a bit emberassing since you keep on throwing red herrings.

Debating and arguing are different things. Again, stop strawmanning me.

 

[-Synergy-]

You are strawmanning me. One of the reasons why you value your hair is because of the importance of looks in our society. This is still a cosmetic issue. Being depressed because of your looks is being depressed because of a cosmetic issue. Same thing goes for being fat, short, having a big nose etc.

I am not strawmanning you, I am using psychology and ethics to make my point. You use examples like being overweight, too short, and having large facial features to prove your point. If you think about it everything you listed can be fixed PERMANENTLY with surgery. Whereas, hair loss can only be treated because of the surgery that is offered usually not being forever permanent. This thread wasn't just about whether or not hair loss is cosmetic but also about a cure. Anything that disrupts a persons way of life is not cosmetic. If a man goes to a therapist and says he's depressed it really doesn't matter why he's depressed because if it is disrupting his day to day routine he will leave with drugs. We all process pain or depression in different ways. In this world, they are going to continue handing out drugs to kids and adults but not fix the underlining problem. I can't have hair loss covered by insurance but the drugs I get as a result of my depression from hair loss are? We can all get doped up but that won't help because this isn't body dysmorphic disorder (BDD). This is a clear difference that separates us from others.

 

[swingline747]

You did not point out anything. You give yourself too much credit, which is a bit emberassing since you keep on throwing red herrings.

Debating and arguing are different things. Again, stop strawmanning me.

You like that strawmanning word, you just learn it? But whatever makes you feel good.

 

[INT]

You like that strawmanning word, you just learn it? But whatever makes you feel good.

Because I use a word twice?