Stayed Over A Girl's House And Overhead This Conversation With Her Family

[Xander94]

In one way they can lose the weight and still be NW1

Exactly but once you are baldcel you will have to live with it.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

If they could lose the weight they would have already.

His girlfriend's dad most likely simply loves food. He won't be losing the weight.

 

[whatintheworld]

haha wow. this sounds like the bad dream of a hairlosstalk member

Girlfriend has norwood spotting family that includes NW1 dad, critiquing hairloss of various individuals. Then toppik commercial comes on to top everything off

Time to start ripping the labels off those minoxidil bottles for when she comes over

That's the weird thing, I'm obviously thinning and I've made a decent recovery with the big 3, but it's still very much obvious where any of you guys would tell I'm thinning across the NW5/6 area.

Yet, obviously they wouldn't have made those comments if they didn't perceive me in the "hair" club, and not the "bald guy" club.

Yeah, the fat NW1 dad pissed me off haha, it's as if he had a claim to superiority by virtue of nothing, while these world class tennis players obviously surpass him in every way.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

If they could lose the weight they would have already.

His girlfriend's dad most likely simply loves food. He won't be losing the weight.

Maybe he needs a health scare to motivate him. Some people only get healthy after a heart attack.

 

[paleocapa89]

The other thing I love when people comment on other people's appearance is the: "He aged gracefully" and the "he looks good compared to his age" = He didn't go bald.

 

[PappinAce]

You'll learn that life was never supposed to be fair or a easy before all your peers.

Everyone thinks they have had hardships in life, until hair loss hits them.

If you can overcome this disease, you can overcome anything life will throw at you.

That's the only positive about this disease.

i feel like i just don't give a sh*t about anything anymore, since hair loss hit me. i don't know if i'm overcoming things per se, but if some bad life experience happens (a lot of that happened recently including moving 800 km away from home and all my friends), my reaction is more like "whatever, my life is ruined by hair loss anyway so who cares". i think there are a lot of thoughts and emotions i should be experiencing right now but they're all overshadowed by the all-enveloping blanket of hair loss, and i feel nothing.

i'm a pretty strong athlete, and i can withstand physical hardships, but i've even stopped exercising for the most part because who cares. no matter how healthy i am, i'm still a monster with a rat's nest on my head.

 

[Xander94]

(a lot of that happened recently including moving 800 km away from home and all my friends), my reaction is more like "whatever, my life is ruined by hair loss anyway so who cares"

This

 

[blackg]

Just thought I would bring this up, in case anyone had any doubt that bringing up hair loss is a bad idea.

I was staying over this girl's house that I'm somewhat seeing (not official yet), and I was watching the recent Federer vs Nadal final in Miami with her and her parents. At one point, the camera pans over Nadal's head, where you can obviously see his diffuse thinning in the bright sunlight.

At this point, the girl mentions "Wow Rafa is losing his hair, what happened to him" (in a disappointed tone of voice). This comment catches me off guard a bit, seeing that I have obvious thinning on my hairline, even though I've been on the big 3 for the past 5 months, and I've had good regrowth and thickening on my crown particularly. But still, a norwood spotter could still easily expose my diffuse thinning and semi-combover.

I say nothing at this point and just continue watching the tv. Then, her mother follows her comment up with "He even got a hair transplant, looks like it didn't work.". The girl then says "really?" in a surprised voice, and says "yeah I feel bad for him" and lets out a little laugh. I'm just sitting there and I don't say anything, just wondering if they seem to have this aversion to hair loss, how did I not get exposed up to now?...

Regardless, then the dad, an overweight NW1, mentions something about Federer badly receding or something as well. In the middle of this, during commercial breaks the TV is posting adds for some toppik-like powder, and naturally some sarcastic comments were accompanied there.

Anyway, I was thinking to say something like "actually many athletes have hair loss, could be because of the high testosterone/dht production they have that helps them stay in world class shape", but I wisely just shut my mouth and didn't draw any attention to myself.

So, tl;dr summary: Don't bring up your hairloss to anyone. ever. As far as you know, the person maybe hasn't even noticed it.

You can't put perspective into the privileged.
I wish it were different, but the ignorance will always be.

 

[blackg]

Most people won't talk about it at all.

I don't see people who are secure with themselves having a conversation like the one above.

Talking trash about other people's appearance in general is a sign that you're trying to reassure yourself by pointing out how flawed other people are.

Personally, I'm OK with how I look and I'm just doing my own thing (lifting weights, getting more hair, etc.), so in real life, you'll never catch me being like "Have you seen x? Yeah he looks like crap, I feel sorry for him!"

That kind of discussion is so gratuitous, mean-spirited and yes, reeks of insecurity.

Of course we all mock other people to an extended, like when we're among friends, but there's a way to do, a way to have a witty and funny conversation about how someone looks or is being ridiculous.

I don't see the conversation that OP shared as witty or valuable in any way. I'm glad I don't associate with that kind of people, which may be why people often say that I'm living in La La Land and that I don't know how mean people can be.

Oh I know, I just want nothing to do with them, not until they gain some self-awareness and realize that they're gratuitously putting others down to feel better about themselves.

This is actually one of your best post ever, Freddo.
You're showing a look class and maturity.
Where is the bitterness!?
I blame the gym.

 

[blackg]

I don't talk about it either, but LOL Being Norwood 4 with deep temple recession and thinning vertex makes it quite self-evident, to use an euphemism. I don't need to remind people I suffer from it, they remind me that everyday by mocking me or by staring at my nonexistent hairline.

"self evident" is not a euphemism.

 

[blackg]

Yeah, I never mock or insult anyone, so I was quite taken aback by it...Might be time to drop this chick, even though she is hot .

But I think you guys can attest to this, that girls/women love to talk about other people's appearances, so it is somewhat "par for the course" unless you find a unicorn that isn't like that.

She will be 200 pounds in two months.
Drop her fat *** and fingerbang the momma!

 

[PappinAce]

I can relate, what I meant is only valid if you overcome hair loss, meaning you've beat somehow.

That can be being an excellent responded to medication or having had a successful hair transplant or one that is good enough to make you sane again, like in my case.

If you're still bald or heavily balding then I know the feeling, "life is over, nothing is enjoyable, nothing matters anymore."

So yeah, just do something about it, anything. Don't just sit around moping.

yeah if you could beat it, and more importantly know in your head that it's not going to get worse (even with decent hair, fear of future deterioration is what really destroys us) then you can go back to having a normalish life.

my case is diffuse thinning due to an unknown cause. it diffused into a sickly rat's nest back in 2014 and just stayed that way. didn't get any worse. tried meds for a year, no change. seems to be some strange case of CTE for which i don't know the trigger. so as you say, fighting it with everything would be ideal, but i can't fight if i don't know what i'm fighting against. i'm in the dark and have no clue what weapons would be effective.

 

[Dante92]

Dante, I like when you talk "dirty". Wow, you are evolving. Look at you giving such great advice to a low Norwood.

I was merely stating the obvious. Or, better, what he wanted to hear. That's the very reason he wrote this thread.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

yeah if you could beat it, and more importantly know in your head that it's not going to get worse (even with decent hair, fear of future deterioration is what really destroys us) then you can go back to having a normalish life.

my case is diffuse thinning due to an unknown cause. it diffused into a sickly rat's nest back in 2014 and just stayed that way. didn't get any worse. tried meds for a year, no change. seems to be some strange case of CTE for which i don't know the trigger. so as you say, fighting it with everything would be ideal, but i can't fight if i don't know what i'm fighting against. i'm in the dark and have no clue what weapons would be effective.

Well a lot of us can kind of beat it if we have money for hair transplants.

I might be able to afford a hair transplant but I have to work hard, and stay in a lot, and not buy anything but food and rent for a 1.5 years to afford my transplant.

I'm thinking sacrifice 1.5 years of my life to be a full head for a while - could be worth it.

 

[Xander94]

Well a lot of us can kind of beat it if we have money for hair transplants.

I might be able to afford a hair transplant but I have to work hard, and stay in a lot, and not buy anything but food and rent for a 1.5 years to afford my transplant.

I'm thinking sacrifice 1.5 years of my life to be a full head for a while - could be worth it.

Money aint sh*t m8 its all about looks if you wanna live to the fullest at a young age.

 

[Xander94]

Its not a black and white thing.

I'd rather look like Agassi than Tim Spall

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Agassi is a baldcel in my eyes he has similar characteristics as me as well Im gonna look like him bald.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Agassi is a baldcel in my eyes he has similar characteristics as me as well Im gonna look like him bald.

Do you really believe that he's celibate?

 

[Xander94]

Do you really believe that he's celibate?

Prob not because he is delusional about his baldness. Also his status replaces his looks. But he wont be able to attract the young poonani as NW1 chad can so RIP.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Prob not because he is delusional about his baldness. Also his status replaces his looks. But he wont be able to attract the young poonani as NW1 chad can so RIP.

If he's not with "young poonani", it might be because he's 46 years old and he's married.

He's not delusional about his looks. He wore a ridiculous wig in the early 1990s. But since then he's been linked to Barbara Streisand, Brooke Shields, and Stefi Graf. He has two children. He's done ok.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Agassi is a baldcel in my eyes he has similar characteristics as me as well Im gonna look like him bald.

Thats not so bad - I'd say if he wasn't famous he would be a 6 out of 10 for a 40 something.

He'd definitely get laid if he was a normal guy without the wealth - as long as he went for average 40 something women.