Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

It_is_over_for_nw7

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do you have any scientific argument besides low IQ incel jargon and "it sounds too complicated"? do you have a PhD in biotechnology or molecular biology? if not how can a total rando like you judge what is complicated and what isn't? I think they are well aware of how complicated this is as they have stressed this 100 times in various interview.

also what the f*** do you mean "just another hair cloning like idea"? of course it is lol. what do you even mean. this approach has never been done and it solves a lot of problems like poor maintenance of inductive capabilities of DP cells in culture, expensive and non scaleable DP culturing process and many more. but I am sure you know very little about what exactly they are doing. your username is also pure cringe
I've been severely bald for almost 10 years. I've been duped many times with empty promises. Every time a new company emerges it's the same talk. "Things are different this time." I've been here before. I'm so jaded at this point that I don't believe anything will actually work when it comes to stem cells. It's been talked about for 25 years.
 

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I've been severely bald for almost 10 years. I've been duped many times with empty promises. Every time a new company emerges it's the same talk. "Things are different this time." I've been here before. I'm so jaded at this point that I don't believe anything will actually work when it comes to stem cells. It's been talked about for 25 years.
if you actually follow the scientific review and not pop science articles it was kind of semi clear all along that it is nowhere near in the early 2010 or even earlier. like in hindsight we were faaaar off from anything substantial. back then, there was (in comparison to now) no thought what so ever given on how to make a particular approach scaleable for the clinic, how to actually guide the implanted organic with scaffolds, most importantly there was not even an effective method to culture dermal fibroblasts and dermal papilla cells, not in a scaleable, not even in a way where would remain the expression of their signature genes and keep their inductive abilities. that has all changed now. I still think we are far off, there is a recent meta review from Asia from 2021 and they list several remaining key challenges but interestingly enough stemson and fukuda have themselves pointed those out as the major issues to solve so they seem to be well aware with what the next milestones must be.

its not like we will see this before 2030 commercially available I think. with optimism, by 2025 they can start clinical studies and if they do them in the US it'll be like 2032, maybe 2030 in Japan until this can be done. so nobody is saying this is right around the corner.

however it is just not a good idea to compare this kind of research to what has been done 25 years ago. the research back then was important in its own way but they weren't even close. here the review:


they paint a not so positive picture of this being available very soon. quot


Since it is an architecturally and functionally complex organ, the HF is much more difficult to regenerate or reconstruct than many other organs. Due to this limitation, HF regeneration is still far from clinical transformation. (1) The sources of potential cells are still poor, largely because of cell ageing in vitro culture and inefficient reprogramming, so there is still a need to optimize the in vitro culture system. (2) The mechanism of hair cycling is very complex, and it is extremely difficult to identify the key molecules. (3) Current strategies simulating EMI are still insufficient. Both cell transplantation and organoid architecture lack the microenvironment of connective tissue, blood vessels and immune cells, which is still quite different from the physiological environment of normal tissues and organs. (4) It is unknown how many new HFs can be regenerated from biomaterials and tissue engineering. Do they allow other essential cells to be recruited to the new follicle? If so, do the attracted cells have the ability to affect organogenesis overall? 5) The cellular reprogramming techniques that contribute to HF regeneration still have low efficiency in vitro. (6) The 3D regeneration of HFs depends on biomaterials that need better external security, controllability and internal stability. Ideal biomaterials need to be safe and nontoxic. Under normal metabolism in the body, they can be kept in a stable state without biological degeneration, and the metabolism or degradation products are harmless and easily metabolized. (7) Whether the regenerated HFs function normally and how long they can last in vivo are less mentioned in past studies.

In summary, at the current stage, various attempts are only imitating a partial structure and/or function regeneration of HFs. The combination of different technologies and methodologies will hopefully lead to new progress.
id argue stemson has worked a lot on problem 1 and 5 and if successful their road over iPSC can deliver a lot of inductive fresh DP cells. 7 is what would be discovered in a clinical study. 2 as well and 6 is their current challenge as I understood this is why they developed scaffolds etc.

so its a lot of challenges. but consider that 25 years ago when you first heard about this, none of these challenges was even known. they thought it was easy because they didn't know anything. like impostor syndrome
 

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The paper have more than 2 years,....
so which of the major challenges they point out in the end of their paper has been solved since then? I know fukuda and stemson are working on some of those critical tasks but others still remain open. although to be fair, before 2015 nobody even seriously worked on this topic at all so I wouldn't be surprised to see much more accelerated progress when 2-3 research groups actually try to work on very specific things at this point in time. the reason why hair loss research hasn't progressed in 10 years is not because it is such a hard issue its because nobody did anything
 

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Boom! HUGE news. Last 12 months provided major breakthroughs, they are able to create human hairs on human skin on mouse, next stage is going full human in the clinical trials. FDA already "blessed" their plans for clinical trials. Everything is going to plan!

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Full video, release just a couple of hours ago. You heard here first!

(and before the crying little biatches complain that it still is going to take a couple of years before it's ready, it's better a couple of years than never. First FULL SOLUTION TO HAIRLOSS IN ALL HUMAN HISTORY IS ON TRACK --> HOLD TIGHT AND BUCKLE UP, OUR TIME WILL COME. STEMSON ARE THE ONLY PROS IN BALDNESS TOWN AND THEY WILL DELIVER.

peace

 

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Boom! HUGE news. Last 12 months provided major breakthroughs, they are able to create human hairs on human skin on mouse, next stage is going full human in the clinical trials. FDA already "blessed" their plans for clinical trials. Everything is going to plan!

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Full video, release just a couple of hours ago. You heard here first!

(and before the crying little biatches complain that it still is going to take a couple of years before it's ready, it's better a couple of years than never. First FULL SOLUTION TO HAIRLOSS IN ALL HUMAN HISTORY IS ON TRACK --> HOLD TIGHT AND BUCKLE UP, OUR TIME WILL COME. STEMSON ARE THE ONLY PROS IN BALDNESS TOWN AND THEY WILL DELIVER.

peace

One cope dies (kintor) just for another one (stemson) to take its place.

It's f*****g mice, show me the efficacy on a HUMAN.
 

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Yes because >90% of hair loss sufferers (man and woman) suffer from AA.

They are the biggest group, their *target group*.

Don't get me wrong, but from the science papers we gathered till now, this will give us potentially new hair *AND* our job is to maintain it. Pretty sad for the people who can't tolerate AA's (anymore) or who don't want to.

I hope that I am totally wrong and that they will update and release more data after they further extend their R&D, meaning of the fact, that the follicles de novo are actually hormone in-sensible.

Fingers crossed! harga llao llao
Yeah, that's basically in Tsuji's territory—unfortunately, it's almost out of reach for the average person.
 

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I think it a good comment:"As I said before, iPSC technology does not work at the moment. Since the invention of iPSC technology, many clinical trials have been conducted to cure various diseases using iPSC, but in none of them, iPSC failed to cure the diseases and only caused mild to moderate improvements. If I know this, then investors know it through their advisors, so they do not waste their money. You may ask why iPSC does not work? The reason is that in order to regenerate tissue, iPSC must be injected directly into the desired area, but direct injection causes tumors to form. For this reason, scientists have to first create the desired producer cells from iPSC in the laboratory, then isolate the formed tumors in the laboratory and finally inject those cells, which weakens the power of iPSC. I will say one more thing about the rumors about Pelage. Even if in the future we target all the genes involved in baldness with gene therapy, it is impossible that anything will happen after 48 hours and it will take several months for hair to grow back. Don’t listen to the rumors that tell you that pelage makes hair grow after 48 hours and don’t lie to yourself!"
 

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Well, nowhere does it indicate that you will grow hair after 48 hours, the only thing they indicate on the Pelage website is that there is a statistically significant activation of the stem cells of the hair follicle a week after the application of the drug.
 

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Well, nowhere does it indicate that you will grow hair after 48 hours, the only thing they indicate on the Pelage website is that there is a statistically significant activation of the stem cells of the hair follicle a week after the application of the drug.
It is a waste of time , maybe few more hair, that is all, for bald people its game over
 
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