Thaory abot Common baldness. Att. Mr. Foote or friends

[Koupka]

posting this study :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21042071

Now try to argue about "male pattern baldness isn't caused by tension/pressure of the tissues".

 

[kiwipilu]

posting this study :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21042071

Now try to argue about "male pattern baldness isn't caused by tension/pressure of the tissues".

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...s-explain-hairloss-by-skull-expansion.119188/

 

[Koupka]

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...s-explain-hairloss-by-skull-expansion.119188/

All this caused by muscles (temporal and auricularis) that are no longer useful for human beings, and also because of our abnormaly large brain...

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

May i add that Androgenetic Alopecia has different patterns, notably among women (ie Ludwig and Savin scales), and even in men there's a panel, not just the regular 'horseshoe' pattern.

Norwood scale doesn't fit everyone, there's Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia (DUPA) and also Retrograde Alopecia.

All pointing the immune system (which is still incredibly poorly known as of 2019) by this variety of responses caused by the same stimuli.

BUMP

 

[jjamerson]

posting this study :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21042071

Now try to argue about "male pattern baldness isn't caused by tension/pressure of the tissues".

But what about the study Bryan (R.I.P.) mentions where balding area follicles and donor area follicles were transplanted to the patient’s arm, and the balding follicles still continued to thin and fall out at the same rate as the follicles in the balding area? The donor follicles did not thin and fall out at all. Doesn’t that keep the theory up for debate?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/87090

 

[Koupka]

But what about the study Bryan (R.I.P.) mentions where balding area follicles and donor area follicles were transplanted to the patient’s arm, and the balding follicles still continued to thin and fall out at the same rate as the follicles in the balding area? The donor follicles did not thin and fall out at all. Doesn’t that keep the theory up for debate?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/87090

I'm sorry, but I can't access to the full paper, so I have many question about this :
How long were the follicules tracked ? What were their state before transplant ? Where were they transplanted ?
Also I would like to add that numerous study have shown that follicule's enviromnent plays a major role in the development of the follicule itself (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1346-8138.1990.tb01632.x).
And what about this study :
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1346-8138.1990.tb01632.x

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

I'm sorry, but I can't access to the full paper, so I have many question about this :
How long were the follicules tracked ? What were their state before transplant ? Where were they transplanted ?
Also I would like to add that numerous study have shown that follicule's enviromnent plays a major role in the development of the follicule itself (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1346-8138.1990.tb01632.x).
And what about this study :
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1346-8138.1990.tb01632.x

Where will you put this device on Retrograde sufferers ? On sides ? On neck ? Everywhere ?
Same question with diffusers and women

 

[WheeljackG1]

But what about the study Bryan (R.I.P.) mentions where balding area follicles and donor area follicles were transplanted to the patient’s arm, and the balding follicles still continued to thin and fall out at the same rate as the follicles in the balding area? The donor follicles did not thin and fall out at all. Doesn’t that keep the theory up for debate?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/87090

Wow, that is super interesting. I found the abstract, but I'd love to read the whole thing. I wonder what the difference in the two types of follicles really are, and why they are, or become different.

 

[Armando Jose]

May i add that Androgenetic Alopecia has different patterns, notably among women (ie Ludwig and Savin scales), and even in men there's a panel, not just the regular 'horseshoe' pattern.

Norwood scale doesn't fit everyone, there's Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia (DUPA) and also Retrograde Alopecia.

All pointing the immune system (which is still incredibly poorly known as of 2019) by this variety of responses caused by the same stimuli.

BUMP

Good point about scales, in recent years meds are prone to unifier them (men&wome) with new concepts,

I'm sorry, but I can't access to the full paper, so I have many question about this :
How long were the follicules tracked ? What were their state before transplant ? Where were they transplanted ?
Also I would like to add that numerous study have shown that follicule's enviromnent plays a major role in the development of the follicule itself (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1346-8138.1990.tb01632.x).
And what about this study :
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1346-8138.1990.tb01632.x

Any have the study of Nodstrood?

From the second about relaxer:
"
Hair counts could not be undertaken because it
was too time-consuming at the dermatology outpatient
clinics"
and.

"
Although hair
regrowth was noted in 40% of the alopecia
patients using the STR, this hair regrowth was
not permanent if the treatment stopped.

"
We are now attempting to investigate the
relationship between the changes ofblood flow
rate and the clinical efficacy rate after use of
the STR in each patient with male-pattern
baldness."

jeje

 

[bboy]

I read all the Bryan vs Foote debates in the archives and they're pretty educational. Both of these guys understanding of Androgenetic Alopecia was light years beyond your average forum dweller these days. What I found interesting is that Foote always seemed to have an answer for Bryan, and his theory really does seem pretty sound. If he's right, and he made this prediction, then none of the cell based approaches will work as the "mild edema" in the scalp will trigger the contact inhibition mechanism in the new hair follicle cells also. All these years later, well, his theory is about to be put to the test.

 

[Fgsfds]

So in theory if you take Propecia, you will get a significant boost in scalp hair growth by also applying DHT cream to the balding areas

Then do it.

Over twenty years ago I argued on the forums, that hair loss treatment research would fail to produce results in Humans, for as long as it failed to take account of the common spatial growth controls that must apply here. So far I have been proven right, and I am sorry to say the same fate will apply to all the current treatment research proposals. People should realise that this is not just my opinion, the current hair loss research clearly goes against the recognised science in tissue growth physiology, as my first article linked above points out.

Over twenty years ago I postulated that physicists will not be able to solve the cosmic inflation problem. This is because they failed to take into account the distortion of gravitational fields by Transexual Dark Space Elves. So far I have been proven right.