That Guy Reflects On Recent Developments

[Afro_Vacancy]

Foucault rarely posts. He mote

Foucault rarely posts. He just dislikes, which means he disagrees with the content but you hate him because you don't like opposite opinions.

No, I disrespect people who don't contribute.

Look at the least useful posters on the site (Nadia, etc): they typically abuse the dislike function.
Look at the most useful posters on the site (Swoop, etc): they communicate via means of coherent and informative posts.

Which is a good reflection of real life. The best people explain and do, the worst people criticize and naysay.

 

[Captain Rex]

Foucault rarely posts. He mote

Foucault rarely posts. He just dislikes, which means he disagrees with the content but you hate him because you don't like opposite opinions.

a word of advice
if u disagree just keep it to yourself.
no need to show it to others. if u r intelligent and know everything about the future ( which you pretend to be ) then u shud be wise enough to stop arguing with us because u goddamn know everything. you shud feel like god i guess.

time will tell whether u r right or wrong but before that u don't have a say in anything.

 

[hairblues]

I understand it must be terrible to go to sleep with hair and wake up the next day completely bald but what I meant was I've seen many AA sufferers recovering all their hair in months, while I've never seen it happening with Androgenetic Alopecia.
I believe Dr. Christiano will bring relief at least to those with AA.

Its completely unpredictable you cant go by one anecdotal experience.

its a vast community and varying types of AA and ALL of them can get the various types at unpredictable point of their life and it can go into remission spontaneously and just when you think you are in clear it can come back with a vengeance.

A lot of people i spoke to they would have a few spots get steroids--force it into remission and then few months later go full Totalis..

Its unpredictable...several people who i spoke to who were bald said that they were bald several times in life for unpredictable lengths of time...some were bald for 15 years or more some were bald for couple of months...some start out with couple of patches go away on own then one day bald lost eyebrows and eye lashes.

Talk to some AA people they can tell you.

Dr Christiano is working on Jax inhibitors IF they can get Jax to work topically--thats fantastic...Bu thats like our Tsugi getting the cure for us time wise..its not even close at moment ...and the oral drugs are extremely toxic no way yet to know how they effect body long term. ( i would take anyway but i am sure a lot of kids won't be able too and many won't choose too)
Christianos colleague in research at same hospital was one of the Doctors i consulted with--shes hopeful of oral Jax being approved for AA in next few years...Topicals they are long way off from her answer (which i cant remember at moment but i know at time i relayed to another member i can look it up). My Dr is the advisor to the National Alopecia Areata Foundation which is why i chose her because my biopsies were conflicting.

Basically they are in same predicament we are waiting for the cure--only difference is they don't have damage to the follicles BUT our cures that won't matter. Our only cure is new follicles or repairing follicles etc.

 

[resu]

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline/winlevi.aspx

The last half of 2017 will be the last stage until the trials are over, why not use it until Breezula (cb 03 01) is out? They used it two times a day for acne in the trials, if the cost isn't too high, this and minoxidil could maybe be an alternative treatment.

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline.aspx

Breezula will come out only in f*****g 2021!

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline/winlevi.aspx

The last half of 2017 will be the last stage until the trials are over, why not use it until Breezula (cb 03 01) is out? They used it two times a day for acne in the trials, if the cost isn't too high, this and minoxidil could maybe be an alternative treatment.

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline.aspx

Breezula will come out only in f*****g 2021!

You can buy CB0301 from Kane anytime you want.

 

[resu]

You can buy CB0301 from Kane anytime you want.

Not the same thing, people claim it's just RU or fake CB. I would also never use RU but that's just me.

 

[constrictedvoid]

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline/winlevi.aspx

The last half of 2017 will be the last stage until the trials are over, why not use it until Breezula (cb 03 01) is out? They used it two times a day for acne in the trials, if the cost isn't too high, this and minoxidil could maybe be an alternative treatment.

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline.aspx

Breezula will come out only in f*****g 2021!

Legit, winlevi is one of the things I'm waiting for. Histogen and winlevi seem the most viably useful candidates for 2018 to me.


@That Guy
Are you still planning to do a transplant soon, as, IIRC, you were a while ago?

 

[Morning Norwood]

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline/winlevi.aspx

The last half of 2017 will be the last stage until the trials are over, why not use it until Breezula (cb 03 01) is out? They used it two times a day for acne in the trials, if the cost isn't too high, this and minoxidil could maybe be an alternative treatment.

http://www.cassiopea.com/activities/product-pipeline.aspx

Breezula will come out only in f*****g 2021!

I plan on this too, but I suspect Winlevi will require a prescription, right? Are people's Doctors/GPs chill enough to hand out acne prescriptions to non-acne sufferers? I suppose if the safety profile of the drug is immaculate, they would just say f*** it. Otherwise I guess we'd have to find it elsewhere..

 

[resu]

I plan on this too, but I suspect Winlevi will require a prescription, right? Are people's Doctors/GPs chill enough to hand out acne prescriptions to non-acne sufferers? I suppose if the safety profile of the drug is immaculate, they would just say f*** it. Otherwise I guess we'd have to find it elsewhere..

Not an issue for me, I would just eat pizzas and ice-cream, bread with butter for a few days and go the GP to ask for a prescription if that was the case but even 5mg finasteride is sold over the counter, only 1mg propecia requires a prescription.

 

[abcdefg]

Im really not interested in any of those except the topical or internal drug. Every male pattern baldness treatment is way over priced because they like to gouge on cosmetics. Any invasive procedure is going to be a huge hassle and cost which to me is not worth it.
If anything could benefit from the 21st century cure thing its breezula. I mean if we dont have a history of AAs and how they behave then medicine is truly pretty worthless. How a topical so similar to the 100 previous AAs needs to take 5 years to release is beyond me. Most sides never show up until its public anyway just release it and let people try it. Cant be worse then finasteride can it? Worst case breezula goes systemic and does something similar to finasteride

 

[That Guy]

so u r FoucaultII?

Of course he is

Why post on a hair loss forum i you believe that no treatments will be available anytime soon?

It is a common trait of antisocial, self-righteous types to possess an "all or nothing" mentality, where everything is black and white and if something isn't perfect, then it's no good at all. They also dwell on and inflate the negatives while discounting any positives, which they see as irrelevant because again...if it's not perfect, it's no good at all.

You'll notice this applies to all of these people like FoucaultII, who are also generally insufferable in real life too.

Legit, winlevi is one of the things I'm waiting for. Histogen and winlevi seem the most viably useful candidates for 2018 to me.


@That Guy
Are you still planning to do a transplant soon, as, IIRC, you were a while ago?

I do, but I'm going to wait until it's been 1 year exactly since starting treatments. I'm still seeing improvement and regrowth.

By the summer, I should know how many grafts I'll need and further results from companies with potential to launch next year.

 

[hairblues]

Nope, his boyfriend!

ohhh come on guys...now that was funny comeback gotta admit

 

[stump]

Of course he is



It is a common trait of antisocial, self-righteous types to possess an "all or nothing" mentality, where everything is black and white and if something isn't perfect, then it's no good at all. They also dwell on and inflate the negatives while discounting any positives, which they see as irrelevant because again...if it's not perfect, it's no good at all.

You'll notice this applies to all of these people like FoucaultII, who are also generally insufferable in real life too.



I do, but I'm going to wait until it's been 1 year exactly since starting treatments. I'm still seeing improvement and regrowth.

By the summer, I should know how many grafts I'll need and further results from companies with potential to launch next year.

Post pics OP

 

[That Guy]

ohhh come on guys...now that was funny comeback gotta admit

Not really, FoucaultII is actually gay so it was kind of a predictable response.

Post pics OP

Why? It's not relevant.

 

[stump]

Not really, FoucaultII is actually gay so it was kind of a predictable response.



Why? It's not relevant.

Honestly I'm just curious.

 

[ahmad029]

@That Guy what do you think about samumed

 

[That Guy]

@That Guy what do you think about samumed

Don't really have much of an opinion, because I don't know much about it. However, I read that phase 2 was disappointing and that a lower dose was somehow more effective, but still nothing groundbreaking.

Like I stated in the op, I don't see topicals ever being a complete solution for hairloss. If science ever does find a topical solution to the problem, it will be long after cell therapy has been commercialized and renders topicals obsolete.

 

[rclark]

So I've wanted to write this post for the last couple days; just me sharin' some thoughts on 2016 and forthcoming things.

First, a bit of my own history:

Last summer, hairloss started to hit me and fast. At first, I just started coping; believing there was nothing I could do about it; it didn't work. Some years prior, I realized I didn't have the kinds of people I wanted in my life and that to get them, I'd have to make to make changes to the first impression people would get looking at me.

I cut my long hair, started taking real good care of it; dressing a lot better, and leaving the standard jeans and metal-band T-shirts in the dust; getting my teeth worked, on etc. It changed my life completely and I could never go back to who I was before. Suddenly, I wasn't asked if I sold weed anymore, no "random" questions from suspicious cops about where I was headed when I'd go to the corner store at night, I got hired by every job I applied at and girls — attractive ones, even! — actually agreed to not just talk to me, but go out on dates too.

Then, when one my worst fears started happening at age 23/24, threatening to ruin what I worked so hard to improve, it took 3 doctors before one told me there was actually something that could be done about it: finasteride and minoxidil. Just a few weeks after I started treatment, the Tsuji deal was announced. Since then, I've become concerned with not just about what I can do for it today, but what I might be able to do about it tomorrow.

TL;DR - Thoughts On Developing Treatments:

• Topicals aren't something I see as ever being a true solution, but the FIDIA lotion has some solid backing. If it goes well for the company beyond Brotzu's research, we could possibly see it next year and could be a good alternative to finasteride and minoxidil. It's also a viable option for AA, which is good.

I don't know much about Kelopesia, because there isn't much about it beyond marketing hype. To be honest, if it weren't coming from a university, I'd say it was a scam 100%; hope I'm wrong.

• Wounding is something I feel neither great enthusiasm nor extreme doubt for. Based on findings dating years back, I think Follica probably will wind up producing hair. Whether the results will be significant enough or not, is anybody's guess.

• Injections like Histogen and Shiseido/RepliCel are what I see as being the most likely near-future solutions to hairloss, though (especially in the former's case) likely won't be a solution for people ranking high on the Norwood scale. Histogen will probably be the first to make it to market; it's a real treatment and it works.

ShisedoCel is what I'm most eagerly anticipating the forthcoming results of. Given RepliCel's latest data, with more coming, I think it's promising; growing a full head of hair from it may not be out of the question. If it works out, it would be the best method as it is not nearly as resource intensive or as invasive as other methods and will certainly not be as expensive. Follicles crossed.

• Hair Multiplication is the big one. I don't even need to say that Tsuji is obviously the one closest to having this commercialized. Organ Tech stated that their research has also shown them means of solving the epithelial culturing problem, research from other teams last year shows people on the right track with this too and companies like Hairclone, TissUse and L'Oreal's partner feel the tech is there to do it, with TissUse looking at beginning clinical trials around the time of Tsuji.

I really do believe that this endeavor is going to succeed, given all the great research surrounding it even dating back to when Dr. Jahoda grew new hair from his wife's arm.

It will be bitter sweet, though. Especially for Tsuji, his method is quite complex and requires many trained surgeons, automation, facilities, employees, etc. As per the interview...this is going to be pricey and will take many years yet before the technology is available across the globe at a price anyone past NW2...3 at the most, could afford. I suspect that for slick bald people, this is likely not going to be a realistic option until they're long past their "prime" (youth), so to speak.

So until then, we've got at least one more year of finasteride, minoxidil and transplants, but in the meantime we can look forward to clinical data and the beginnings of historic human trials.

Let me know what you think; agree or disagree. Offer up your own thoughts.

Unless you're just going to be a self-righteous, dislike-slinging doubtful, pessimistic, patronizing dick about it. If so, kindly gtfo now.

Actually I like this.

It's probably more important than ever to keep our hair alive. The thing is, Histogen has been saying
they would be out on the market since 2011. It's now six years later, and where are they now??

 

[BruceMackenzie]

Actually I like this.

It's probably more important than ever to keep our hair alive. The thing is, Histogen has been saying
they would be out on the market since 2011. It's now six years later, and where are they now??

Six years closer to production.

 

[rclark]

Six years closer to production.

Add or multiply that number. If they've begun testing (and my understanding is with women only,
but I could be wrong), then add ten years to that.

In fact, Kyreca will come out before Histogen. I'm willing to put money on that.