The Cb (breezula [clascoterone]) Community Thread

John Difool

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Definitely not another Brotzu. This stuff is the real deal. Unfortunately it seems to lose efficacy fairly quickly.

It seems that it's lasting one year then back to square one. ARs seem to build resilience over any drugs targeting them overtime.
 

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You don't need DHT to get an erection, testosterone is enough, which is why finasteride and dutasteride don't usually cause ED. They also don't seem to upregulate AR the way AR antagonists do. Probably because they are not blocking the receptors, they are still being activated by T. Blocking the AR full stop leads to more hair growth, but the AR seems to upregulate when not activated so people end up having to increase their dose of AR antagonists.

maybe you dont need dht to get an erection, but you still need dht to a lot of other male factors. you can't deny that. respecfully
 

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You don't need DHT to get an erection, testosterone is enough, which is why finasteride and dutasteride don't usually cause ED. They also don't seem to upregulate AR the way AR antagonists do. Probably because they are not blocking the receptors, they are still being activated by T. Blocking the AR full stop leads to more hair growth, but the AR seems to upregulate when not activated so people end up having to increase their dose of AR antagonists.

How to avoid upregulating the AR while applying AA's?
Maybe we should apply these AA's in intervals to let the AR get back to baseline?
 

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Maybe cycle it, or apply eod.

I thought about cycling it but then you are dependent on the half life of the drug you are using to combat it. I think as for fighting male pattern baldness with AA long term, we are fscked.
 

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After puberty, it


After puberty, its role seems to diminish inthe good side of things and can cause more harm than good. One of them we are here to discuss in this forum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone

as i said a thousand times here.. if DHT was not important for an healthy (manly or alpha, whatever you call it) man after his puberty. then the body would STOP producing it after a male finish his puberty. this is called evoltion !

the human body is the most complex thing that exists. if dht was harmful after puberty to our male ancestours 150 000 years ago, then generation after generation to this day, the production would have stopped. and if it did not happen, thats for a reason.

i totally respect guys that take hard drugs, this is your life and none of my concern !! but stop trying to be more intelligent than NATURE and EVOLUTION.

peace !
 

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as i said a thousand times here.. if DHT was not important for an healthy (manly or alpha, whatever you call it) man after his puberty. then the body would STOP producing it after a male finish his puberty. this is called evoltion !

the human body is the most complex thing that exists. if dht was harmful after puberty to our male ancestours 150 000 years ago, then generation after generation to this day, the production would have stopped. and if it did not happen, thats for a reason.

i totally respect guys that take hard drugs, this is your life and none of my concern !! but stop trying to be more intelligent than NATURE and EVOLUTION.

peace !

I don't understand your logic here. How do you explain cancer then? Not everything in nature and especially in the human body has been optimized to provide you with a fantastic social life, especially after puberty.
 

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I thought about cycling it but then you are dependent on the half life of the drug you are using to combat it. I think as for fighting male pattern baldness with AA long term, we are fscked.
What if you use 5-ARIs (like topical dutasteride) between AR antagonists cycles (like cb). That way your hair follicles are protected 24/7 while you get to downregulate your AR off-cycle.
 

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Finasteride, sold under the brand names Proscar and Propecia among others, is a medication mainly used to treat an enlarged prostate or hair loss in men.[2] It can also be used to treat excessive hair growth in women and as a part of hormone therapy for transgender women.[3][4] It is taken by mouth.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride

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And? It clearly states that the main use is prostate or hair loss. I can use paracetamol to kill myself too. Does that mean its a suicide drug? f*****g retarded American baldcel.
 

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What if you use 5-ARIs (like topical dutasteride) between AR antagonists cycles (like cb). That way your hair follicles are protected 24/7 while you get to downregulate your AR off-cycle.

Uncharted territory. My observation is that once up-regulated the receptors won't go back to normal state. I used fina for 15 years and eventually it stopped working. If what you are saying would work, I could in theory jump back on it after 7hours (the half life of this drug.) Not so much. Hopes to go back on fina and have it doing its magic are pretty much gone for me.
 

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Lol stop being butthurt tranny. Atleast you can wear wigs when fina doesn't work to save your ratsnest.
Finasteride is not a transgender drug, keep copy pasta-ing the same wikipedia sh*t tho, won't make it more true.
 

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Finasteride is sometimes used in hrt mtf treatment to slow down hair loss. That's the only reason why it should be part of the regimen but when T & DHT reach ciswomen levels, the use of AA drugs can be suppressed.
 

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I don't understand your logic here. How do you explain cancer then? Not everything in nature and especially in the human body has been optimized to provide you with a fantastic social life, especially after puberty.

cancer has a role in life ! in every species ! to control the population, like this virus we experience right now.

it's natural selection. it is useful to regulate a population. (even if its tragic)
 

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Imagine believing our bodies and evolution are perfect. If they were we wouldn't have cancer and parkinson's disease, Androgenetic Alopecia, etc. If it doesn't stop people from breeding or the lack of it give people a highly negative chance of breeding then evolution doesn't give a sh*t. DHT does not kill us, and it doesn't prevent us from being able to reproduce, therefore our body has no reason to stop producing it. That doesn't mean it has a reason to keep producing it, it just didn't have any reason to develop a mechanism for shutting it off. You don't know jack about evolution.

why a womans body stop producing milk when the baby\kid is ready to eat normally and not by breastfeeding, because the body naturally know that this is not useful anymore.

you are right, the human body is NOT perfect, i give you that !

but saying that dht is not useful after puberty is something absolutely stupid to say. and id say it is even dangerous to say that.. there are kids under 18 here who could be influenced by this claim.
 

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LMFAO, the coping pill swallowers are now comparing a male hormone with cancer.

this is not stupid.. for them manliness IS cancer.

I swear some of those guys must look like this :
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John Difool

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cancer has a role in life ! in every species ! to control the population, like this virus we experience right now.

it's natural selection. it is useful to regulate a population. (even if its tragic)

Then why are you fighting hair loss? By your same reasoning, hair loss is a process of nature for adult males not to get laid and be able to reproduce as they wish. It's a natural selection to have a woman you want to marry and have kids with to reject you because you are bald like a rock.
 
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