The Daily Topical Nightmare: Hell On Earth

infinitepain

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I use foam and my hair looks like sh*t. It's been 3 f*****g years and I still don't get why the recommended dose is 1 cup of foam (so I guess 1 full pump, I mean pressing on the button all the way down until foam stops coming out).
I have to use up to 5 pumps, in order to cover the scalp, otherwise its f*****g impossible, half of it doesn't expand, it sits on top of other hair and the scalp remains dry. I apply smaller pumps not pressing all the way down, across my hairline to guarantee it gets exposed to the product. I end up f*****g a fuckton probably, don't even know since it's foam so how the f*** do you even measure it. Who cares anyway, covering the scalp properly it's all that matters.

I tried liquid too, minoxidil with a couple finasteride pills on it, I prepare 10ml with 10mg of finasteride on the minoxidil so I don't use foam only to vary things a bit. Anyway, I need more than 2 ml per application, and recommended minoxidil dosage is 1ml, so I use around 5ml of minoxidil per day. Also applying liquids on the crown is hell since I don't know what im doing. With the foam I can use a glass with the other hand and apply directly on the crown looking what im doing throw the glass and it will not fall down throught my head since I have it inclined.

Not to mention, how hair looks like sh*t on topicals.

All of this, and I have less hair than 3 year ago so I can't say it's working, and the male pattern baldness never goes away even tho the topicals refresh it a bit.

And the only oral treatment we got is tranny drug that will destroy 70% of the most potent male hormone, and there will probably never be a proper oral treatment without nasty sides that works.

Male pattern baldness is a brutal disease indeed.
 

Guzam

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I use foam and my hair looks like sh*t. It's been 3 f*****g years and I still don't get why the recommended dose is 1 cup of foam (so I guess 1 full pump, I mean pressing on the button all the way down until foam stops coming out).
I have to use up to 5 pumps, in order to cover the scalp, otherwise its f*****g impossible, half of it doesn't expand, it sits on top of other hair and the scalp remains dry. I apply smaller pumps not pressing all the way down, across my hairline to guarantee it gets exposed to the product. I end up f*****g a fuckton probably, don't even know since it's foam so how the f*** do you even measure it. Who cares anyway, covering the scalp properly it's all that matters.

I tried liquid too, minoxidil with a couple finasteride pills on it, I prepare 10ml with 10mg of finasteride on the minoxidil so I don't use foam only to vary things a bit. Anyway, I need more than 2 ml per application, and recommended minoxidil dosage is 1ml, so I use around 5ml of minoxidil per day. Also applying liquids on the crown is hell since I don't know what im doing. With the foam I can use a glass with the other hand and apply directly on the crown looking what im doing throw the glass and it will not fall down throught my head since I have it inclined.

Not to mention, how hair looks like sh*t on topicals.

All of this, and I have less hair than 3 year ago so I can't say it's working, and the male pattern baldness never goes away even tho the topicals refresh it a bit.

And the only oral treatment we got is tranny drug that will destroy 70% of the most potent male hormone, and there will probably never be a proper oral treatment without nasty sides that works.

Male pattern baldness is a brutal disease indeed.

I suggest to get on finasteride orally. It's widely known minoxidil alone and topical finasteride are worth sh*t.

If you want to fight, get on the anti androgen and pray.

If you don't want to, embrace baldness and your genetic subhumanity.
 

infinitepain

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I suggest to get on finasteride orally. It's widely known minoxidil alone and topical finasteride are worth sh*t.

If you want to fight, get on the anti androgen and pray.

If you don't want to, embrace baldness and your genetic subhumanity.

There's people that had good results topically.

I don't see how it's possible to NOT have sides by removing 70% of one's DHT.
 

CopeForLife

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There's people that had good results topically.

I don't see how it's possible to NOT have sides by removing 70% of one's DHT.

I do not have so far. 2.5 month on finasteride.
 

Xander94

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There's people that had good results topically.

I don't see how it's possible to NOT have sides by removing 70% of one's DHT.
What do you mean by sides? If you mean a little tired/watery semen and a little bit reduced ej/volume then yes everybody has those. If you mean permanent brain fog pfs then no we dont have.
 

infinitepain

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What do you mean by sides? If you mean a little tired/watery semen and a little bit reduced ej/volume then yes everybody has those. If you mean permanent brain fog pfs then no we dont have.
So you think your semen going god damn watery only means the semen is now watery and nothing else?
You are still young. What will happen after 5/10 years of DHT deprivation?
 

Roberto_72

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So you think your semen going god damn watery only means the semen is now watery and nothing else?
You are still young. What will happen after 5/10 years of DHT deprivation?
It is reduction, not deprivation.
 

Rudiger

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Wtf 5 cups of foam?! I must be misunderstanding this.

A cap do you mean? Like the lid? Even that sounds nuts. I'd maybe take 2 caps, there's no way a cap is from pushing the nozzle until it's drained for that pump though.

How many bottles of this sh*t do you get through in not only a month, but a week? One is supposed to last one month, for me maybe 3 weeks.
 

Xander94

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Exactly. When you have shitty genes, you can only surrender. Why do you think I gave up on girls and social life? Sometimes you can only give up, especially against genetics. Acceptance is the best, most reasonable and logical course of action.
I gave up on women and social life long before my hair started falling. Still didn't care after it started falling. Only now Im starting to regret it a bit because Im realising that I might be a baldite soon.

I believe you wanted social interaction and was rejected because of your looks. I didnt have that problem I just found it a pathetic useless waste of time. Well now I have changed my opinion a little bit...
 

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What do you mean by sides? If you mean a little tired/watery semen and a little bit reduced ej/volume then yes everybody has those. If you mean permanent brain fog pfs then no we dont have.

Don't forget man titties!!!
 

blackg

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It's not like I ever had a choice, my bad looks combined with my intelligence and shyness were a deadly combo

What do you mean? Are you intellectually disabled?
You sound OK to me.
 

blackg

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I think he means he was smarter than the average people and being smarter tends to lead to introversion and inability to fit in among the common rabble. :)
Ahhhh...... Okay.
 

blackg

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I never considered people "common rabble", I never considered myself superior to others, quite the opposite, that's the problem. I'm smart, yes, but socially inept. that was what I meant.
Now I'm confused.
 

whatevr

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I never considered people "common rabble", I never considered myself superior to others, quite the opposite, that's the problem. I'm smart, yes, but socially inept. that was what I meant.

Then you are in a similar situation as me. Despite being aware how much smarter and better at certain things I am than most other people, I automatically view myself as inferior even to people who haven't got sh*t on me. That's what a chronic lack of self-confidence will do to you.
It's getting better but I still struggle with it at times.
 

whatevr

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Unfortunately, I have no way to get more self-confident or less depressed, pretty hard when you look like a living corpse and have been treated like sh*t as a result for years. Halo effect.

I'm really sorry, nothing that I can say other than to check my privilege. With a full-head of hair I would be around 7-7.5, with my current hair status I am around a 6. Also 'only' NW2 - 2.5 but with diffuse thinning as well.

To be fair if I was in your or Fred's situation I would've offed myself years ago - not to say I haven't had some really horrible health issues in the past 4 years - but at least I could look at myself in the mirror. If I go NW3 or above I'm saying goodbye to the Earth. Not even joking.

I've been through a lot of sh*t with my health and overall situation, so my hair is something I'm just not giving up without a brutal fight.
 

blackg

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Then you are in a similar situation as me. Despite being aware how much smarter and better at certain things I am than most other people, I automatically view myself as inferior even to people who haven't got sh*t on me.

You are smart enough to realise that this is only your opinion, right?
A heavily baised, ego centric, self absorbed opinion, at that.

 

blackg

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LOL If it wasn't for the fact that I really love my job (despite my shitty colleagues), I would kill myself right now without thinking twice about it.
No you wouldn't.
 
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