The Elephant In The Room - Weight Lifting

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His jawline is fine, what you're seeing is that he's put on weight from his heyday. He's not exactly shredded anymore.
Not really, he has a low hyoid bone so matter what he does he can't get rid of the double chin look. The fact his facial hair genetics are sh*t doesn't help to cover it up either..
 
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When I look at Vin Diesel all I see is a big goofy old guy. He has no sex appeal. The Rock looks like an ogre too. This type of look might attract trashy low class girls, not really what I'm looking for..
 

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Not really, he has a low hyoid bone so matter what he does he can't get rid of the double chin look. The fact his facial hair genetics are sh*t doesn't help to cover it up either..

You are overestimating how thin he is. And yes, he is older now. We're talking about a guy who's no longer in his prime. Of course if he had no money and tried to get younger girls at this age, he would have a harder time

I'm not saying he's a 10 or something, but his facial structure overall is above average, enough to where he made the look work for him when he was younger. Unfortunately many of us often overestimate our own looks. We're often further below average than we want to admit
 

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You are overestimating how thin he is. And yes, he is older now. We're talking about a guy who's no longer in his prime. Of course if he had no money and tried to get younger girls at this age, he would have a harder time

I'm not saying he's a 10 or something, but his facial structure overall is above average, enough to where he made the look work for him when he was younger. Unfortunately many of us often overestimate our own looks. We're often further below average than we want to admit
Younger, with a leaner face and a hairline shadow:

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Nope, still has that double chin look.

He has buggy eyes and squints in every pic in an attempt to look more masculine.

No, he's pretty average facially.
The only reason he pulls off the bald look better than most guys is the fact he's not white and has a big frame. Period.

How is a wide upper third a bad feature, by the way? People like David Beckham have it. Pretty sure it's the other way around. Small upper third = feminine.
 

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Younger, with a leaner face and a hairline shadow:

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Nope, still has that double chin look.

He has buggy eyes and squints in every pic in an attempt to look more masculine.

No, he's pretty average facially.
The only reason he pulls off the bald look better than most guys is the fact he's not white and has a big frame. Period.

How is a wide upper third a bad feature, by the way? People like David Beckham have it. Pretty sure it's the other way around. Small upper third = feminine.

Those pictures aren't any different from the other one you posted. There are other pictures on Google Images where his jawline is better, but no one is arguing that it's perfect. The point is that his facial structure is better than the average guy. You are really overestimating what normal people look like. You are also really overestimating his frame (his frame *is* average, he's just buff. Not cut, but good muscle mass) and the effect of frame in general. It's a meme.

Wide upper third can make you look like you have downs if your eyebrows wind up spaced too far apart and your cranium is too big in proportion to your lower third. Feminine features involve the face getting narrower toward the lower end of the face so that's also not correct
 

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Those pictures aren't any different from the other one you posted. There are other pictures on Google Images where his jawline is better, but no one is arguing that it's perfect. The point is that his facial structure is better than the average guy. You are really overestimating what normal people look like. You are also really overestimating his frame (his frame *is* average, he's just buff. Not cut, but good muscle mass) and the effect of frame in general. It's a meme.

Wide upper third can make you look like you have downs if your eyebrows wind up spaced too far apart and your cranium is too big in proportion to your lower third. Feminine features involve the face getting narrower toward the lower end of the face so that's also not correct
No one said anything about him being cut lol. When you're bald it's better to have a buff body with a little higher bf % than a lean, swimmer type one.
 

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No one said anything about him being cut lol. When you're bald it's better to have a buff body with a little higher bf % than a lean, swimmer type one.

Sure I agree (ideally you want both mass and definition) but in his case though bulking the way he does exacerbates the double chin
 

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Vin never had a tremendous physique or facial structure. He was simply very good at what he did and became famous/popular.

Facial structure will not save you either if you are bald. I've shown my photos to people on here and they say that my facial structure, jaw etc are good. That and being in good shape hasn't helped me one bit. I'm still living the bald loser life. N.b. once again, you can PM and I could show you a photo of what a bald guy who looks after himself, is in shape etc but can not get any romantic success, looks like.
 

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You can have a six pack dirty bulking and still not be super cut. His jawline isn't great but my point is that his facial structure still way outclasses the average 5/10 guy in the real world.

Vin never had a tremendous physique or facial structure. He was simply very good at what he did and became famous/popular.

Facial structure will not save you either if you are bald. I've shown my photos to people on here and they say that my facial structure, jaw etc are good. That and being in good shape hasn't helped me one bit. I'm still living the bald loser life. N.b. once again, you can PM and I could show you a photo of what a bald guy who looks after himself, is in shape etc but can not get any romantic success, looks like.

Honestly he's never been "very good at what he did", he's a mediocre actor. The point is that even though he is average looking by Hollywood standards he is a league above the average guy in the real world. People really overestimate what normal dudes look like. Most of us are pretty ugly.

I would love to see your pictures to make an assessment of that
 

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You can have a six pack dirty bulking and still not be super cut. His jawline isn't great but my point is that his facial structure still way outclasses the average 5/10 guy in the real world.



Honestly he's never been "very good at what he did", he's a mediocre actor. The point is that even though he is average looking by Hollywood standards he is a league above the average guy in the real world. People really overestimate what normal dudes look like. Most of us are pretty ugly.

I would love to see your pictures to make an assessment of that
He's a terrible actor who had enough ambition and luck to get far in that industry. Nobody wanted to cast him so he wrote, directed and starred in an independent short movie that caught Steven Spielberg's attention. His racially ambiguous appearance made him stand out.

Once again, he looked above average in his heyday mainly because of his frame. You gotta understand that if he was skinny with a bobblehead he would've looked ridiculous. Also back then, in the pre social media era, having an aesthetic face wasn't as much of a requirement.
 

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Vin was good at what he did simply because he made a success of his acting career. People do not look at how well he acts, but how well the movies that he acts in have done. That's why he was considered attractive. He has never been in incredible shape, had a good jaw etc. Those things won't save a bald guy from looking like trash though. Importantly, Vin had a hairline early in his career and that's what helped him a lot.

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Not exactly in amazing shape. Bu the played his role well and, importantly, had a hairline back then. Now just imagine him clean shaven like that with no hairline. Or imagine him bald with a beard in that photo. It would not work. Once again, hair is everything in Hollywood and Vin is an example of a guy who made the most of the hair that he had at the time that he had it.

Edit: I also checked and Vin was over 30 when the first Fast and Furious movie was released. Over 30 with a hairline...that's actually an amazing situation to be in and it doesn't compare to us bald no hopers.
 

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Vin was good at what he did simply because he made a success of his acting career. People do not look at how well he acts, but how well the movies that he acts in have done. That's why he was considered attractive. He has never been in incredible shape, had a good jaw etc. Those things won't save a bald guy from looking like trash though. Importantly, Vin had a hairline early in his career and that's what helped him a lot.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fastandfurious/images/e/ef/Dominic_Toretto_(F1)-07.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160601155050

Not exactly in amazing shape. Bu the played his role well and, importantly, had a hairline back then. Now just imagine him clean shaven like that with no hairline. Or imagine him bald with a beard in that photo. It would not work. Once again, hair is everything in Hollywood and Vin is an example of a guy who made the most of the hair that he had at the time that he had it.

Edit: I also checked and Vin was over 30 when the first Fast and Furious movie was released. Over 30 with a hairline...that's actually an amazing situation to be in and it doesn't compare to us bald no hopers.
His arms are robust and his shoulders are wide. All of which contributes to his "tough guy" image. The hairline helps as well of course. Still, we've never seen him play a romantic lead or anything that's not a one dimensional action star, except that one time he grew his hair outand looked ridiculous:

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Facial hair doesn't suit him in general. He's a weird case. Most guys definitely look better with a beard, hair or not.

Statham still looks better than him.
 

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His arms are robust and his shoulders are wide. All of which contributes to his "tough guy" image. The hairline helps as well of course. Still, we've never seen him play a romantic lead or anything that's not a one dimensional action star, except that one time he grew his hair outand looked ridiculous:

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Facial hair doesn't suit him in general. He's a weird case. Most guys definitely look better with a beard, hair or not.

Statham still looks better than him.

His arms are big and I guess that we could just about say that he has wide shoulders. But it was his hairline and his acting, not his physique or facial structure, that gave him the success. Some guys are meant to be bald/buzzed with a hairline and that's their best look. I think that I'm one of them and so is Vin. But losing your hairline ruins it all of course. There's no telling who will or will not look good without a hairline.
 

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His arms are big and I guess that we could just about say that he has wide shoulders. But it was his hairline and his acting, not his physique or facial structure, that gave him the success. Some guys are meant to be bald/buzzed with a hairline and that's their best look. I think that I'm one of them and so is Vin. But losing your hairline ruins it all of course. There's no telling who will or will not look good without a hairline.
I agree. That's why in later movies they drew a hairline shadow on his head with makeup.
 
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nohairnolife, please post your idea of a "5/10 real life guy".
Let me just Google "5/10 real life guy" and it'll somehow know what I mean lol. Or dox somebody I know off Facebook.

I don't know man, I'm done. I don't even like Vin Diesel lmao. But he's got a better face than your average Joe Schmoe. People don't even get into Hollywood if they're not good looking or specifically playing an ugly person
 

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Younger, with a leaner face and a hairline shadow:

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Nope, still has that double chin look.

He has buggy eyes and squints in every pic in an attempt to look more masculine.

No, he's pretty average facially.
The only reason he pulls off the bald look better than most guys is the fact he's not white and has a big frame. Period.

How is a wide upper third a bad feature, by the way? People like David Beckham have it. Pretty sure it's the other way around. Small upper third = feminine.

Looks like a cartoon character with that nose.
 
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