The functional cure is already here (pics)

[froggy7]

Don’t forget a cure should cost $199 at most. If it costs more, then 90% of the users here wouldn’t be able to afford it, therefore it won’t be a cure

hahaha hair transplant is not a medicine, pictures of this guy are just confirmation

 

[RStGeorge]

here is my take on this. i think for someone in their mid 30 you could save a lot of grafts if you have a more conservative hairline. i also think in order to properly frame your face it could be argued that a thin spot at the crown would be acceptable, a normal look past 30 and can be covered well with toppik. that again would save a lot of grafts.

however!!

i think the bigger problem is the fact that not having to use finasteride because it is donor zone hair is not completely accurate especially in younger men. many report a thinning of transplanted hairs. why? well first of all, what can be found in the frontal scalp is an upregulation of dht. when you plant the hairs from the back to the front they are susceptible to more dht, some still express the androgen receptor, studies have shown that even the donor zone in men with Androgenetic Alopecia thins out ovet time just much slower. however in an environment with higher androgens this can happen quicker.

furthermore, the surrounding cells are still susceptible to the balding process, there are signaling molecules being produces in their roots that have inhibitory properties, these are paracrine not just autocrine signals and thus, it can have an effect even on the neighboring cells. that means your non transplanted scalp is killing your donor hair.

when you are old and your balding process has been arrested for a long period of time this might not be w problem. however note that in older men gair generally becomes thinner. when you have such a tranplwnt you cannot afford any further thinning

my opinion is, a full transplant is not feasible past Norwood 4 if you hwve non insane donor area. hopefully soon we have drugs that might not give full but at least partial regrowth so that it can make non candidates candidates and also arrest the balding process further so that groeth inhibitory paracrine signals from cells nearby(there was a talk from the hair loss congress 2020 thag went into depth on this and why transplanted hair can get prone to minatutizatio) are not an issue

Interesting theory!

So based on what you are saying, would flap surgery, where the scalp skin is excised from the donor site instead of individual donor hair, avoid the problem?

 

[scientist_0005]

hahahahahahahahahha holy sh*t wtf!? the world of baldies is pure insanity!

the degernate saint has made a new account, his cheating neglacting milf moma has given the kid its internet access back

 

[scientist_0005]

Interesting theory!

So based on what you are saying, would flap surgery, where the scalp skin is excised from the donor site instead of individual donor hair, avoid the problem?

yes but that is a terrible procedure.


everyone here should watch this very interesting video

from minute 8 to 11

 

[froggy7]

Tsuji has medicine, but it is so expensive that even celebrities do not want to buy ...

 

[scientist_0005]

 

[genericwhitemale]

wtf has this forum become

 

[werefckd]

Congratulations dude.

Your result looks amazing for the level of hair loss you had. Incredible result.

Can I ask whether your donor hair, before the procedure, was completely untouched from any thinning from your male pattern hairloss?

I have very similar loss to you but my sides and nape have also thinned perhaps about 50%.

I know I am not a candidate for such a procedure but just wondering whether you had fully-thickened side and back hair prior to the procedure

This is the thread: https://bit.ly/3ohRnUm

The procedure and his evolution is pretty well documented there.

It's amazing the results he got with "only" 7K grafts. Goes to show that if the surgeon is VERY skilled, most of people can achieve VERY good results with a hair transplant. Most people have 7k grafts in the donor are to use, its no big deal.

 

[werefckd]

These Bulgarians have hair shafts as thick as my thumb. Good luck getting a transplant like that.

That person is swedish. And I think his hair thickness was measured and found to be very average, nothing special.

Also, 7k grafts is nothing out of this world.

 

[werefckd]

But I do understand where you guys are coming from. All hair transplants used to be shitty and only a few lucky people with excellent donors and other conditions (like low Norwood scale) would get good results.

But this is changing. Doctors like Zarev are doing a G R E A T work and showing that even if you are a NW6 and don't have a huge donor area to begin with you STILL can get a LIFE CHANGING result.

 

[whatintheworld]

@werefckd great post.

You also need to have about 30k euros to drop for this procedure, but it would be money well spent.

Here are also some results with a fine hair candidate: https://hassonandwong.com/hair-transplant-results/fue-hair-transplant-surgery-6048-grafts/

Dr. Lorenzo also has good high Norwood results: https://injertocapilar.com/Norwood-v-vi-vii/?lang=en

Of course though, I would recommend taking finasteride to protect the transplanted hairs just in case, but not everyone's transplant will thin regardless.

 

[werefckd]

@werefckd great post.

You also need to have about 30k euros to drop for this procedure, but it would be money well spent.

Here are also some results with a fine hair candidate: https://hassonandwong.com/hair-transplant-results/fue-hair-transplant-surgery-6048-grafts/

Dr. Lorenzo also has good high Norwood results: https://injertocapilar.com/Norwood-v-vi-vii/?lang=en

Of course though, I would recommend taking finasteride to protect the transplanted hairs just in case, but not everyone's transplant will thin regardless.

Hey man, nice results there as well

Did you end up having your consultation with Dr. Zarev?

 

[kiwi666]

“my opinion is, a full transplant is not feasible past Norwood 4 if you hwve non insane donor area.”

I just posted a NW5 or 6 with average donor area that had a full transplant and had amazing results. So yes, it it very feasabible.

The thing is Dr Zarev is so good he is redefining what is possible with hair transplants. If you just consider the other hair transplant doctors I would almost agree with you.

It’s funny / not funny how for some people photographic evidence isn’t enough.

 

[werefckd]

It’s funny / not funny how for some people photographic evidence isn’t enough.

We are conditioned to see hair transplants as butchery because of the things we saw in the past that got imprinted in our heads. At least I was.

As they say, we see not with our eyes but with our minds.

 

[kiwi666]

@werefckd thanks for post I think it’s very valid and new hair transplant ARE cutting edge compared to some.

I reckon Eugenix looks like an interesting solution given price and experience with Beard hair

Hair Transplant Treatment in India | Medical Treatment for Hair Loss

Eugenix is one of the best hair transplant and hair treatment clinic in India. Eugenix is located in Gurgaon, Delhi Mumbai, Bhubaneshwar and Dehradun.

eugenix.in

I’d trust these guys over any of the pricks in Turkey.

 

[kiwi666]

We are conditioned to see hair transplants as butchery because of the things we saw in the past that got imprinted in our heads. At least I was.

As they say, we see not with our eyes but with our minds.

Well my motive is that I have a FUT scare. Ten years ago I was promised that “in 5 years you’ll be able to use new tech to…”

Anyway I’ve been really happy with my hair transplant but the crown is catching up.

So a couple of thousand beard hair grafts in the crown + maybe another thousand in the front / centre would probably keep me happy for another 10 years.

 

[kiwi666]

I’d rather look like I’m thining in areas and have a decent frame of hair (hair to frame my face?) than look bald.

 

[whatintheworld]

@kiwi666 Dr. Lorenzo in spain has excellent crown transplant results as well, you can see them on his webpage.

 

[werefckd]

Well my motive is that I have a FUT scare. Ten years ago I was promised that “in 5 years you’ll be able to use new tech to…”

Anyway I’ve been really happy with my hair transplant but the crown is catching up.

So a couple of thousand beard hair grafts in the crown + maybe another thousand in the front / centre would probably keep me happy for another 10 years.

Glad to know you pulled the trigger instead of waiting forever for the miracle treatment that is always just "3-5 years away" for the past 20 years.

 

[werefckd]

I’d rather look like I’m thining in areas and have a decent frame of hair (hair to frame my face?) than look bald.

Exactly. The frame makes the total difference