The negative prejudice against baldness in Hollywood is pissing me off

zdm632

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It's not about disagreeing with him. It's him (much like yourself in the past) being WRONG.

His comment suggests bald men are to blame themselves for being socially despised. So yes, it's an ignorant statement.

What a ****ty personality you have, and wonder why people reject you...
 

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Let's get back to school for a while with the following assignment:

=== Assignment ===

Joe signs up to an astronauts forum. Joe has never been in space. He goes to threads where experienced astronauts are discussing what it feels like to be in space, and are sharing their experiences. Joe starts arguing with them about what he thinks it feels to be in space. The astronauts tell him that he is wrong and explain what it feels like to be in space. But Joe keeps contradicting them, telling them they are wrong, and even gets aggressive, using as arguments his own theories and opinions.

Question: Describe Joe using one or two adjectives.

=== End of assignment ===

So, what adjective(s) did you use? Feel free to save the adjectives to yourself if you:
1) Have a red square below your name.
2) Are concerned about those with red squares below their names.
 

uncomfortable man

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What a ****ty personality you have, and wonder why people reject you...

When I was unemployed and looking for work I can recall more than one interview ending with "we love your energy and your attitude but we just don't feel you are the right fit." But of course you would attribute that to something else other than the baldness right? Because obviously it wasn't my attitude that was misaligned.

I know you weren't responding to me but I had say something because ^ that quote is the failsafe excuse lever that people pull when they want to push away a bald man and not look superficial for it. Weather it is a prospective date or a prospective employer, I've heard this echoed before.

So, bald man gets mistreated and made fun of by society on a daily basis.
Bald man gets upset and depressed as a result.
Tormentors turn around and say "look, it's your attitude not your baldness that's the problem!"

SMFH :shakehead: FMFL

NO! the problem is not with us... the problem is with you hating on us and not having the guts or decency to admit it - that is the problem.
 

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When I was unemployed and looking for work I can recall more than one interview ending with "we love your energy and your attitude but we just don't feel you are the right fit." But of course you would attribute that to something else other than the baldness right? Because obviously it wasn't my attitude that was misaligned.

I know you weren't responding to me but I had say something because ^ that quote is the failsafe excuse lever that people pull when they want to push away a bald man and not look superficial for it. Weather it is a prospective date or a prospective employer, I've heard this echoed before.

So, bald man gets mistreated and made fun of by society on a daily basis.
Bald man gets upset and depressed as a result.
Tormentors turn around and say "look, it's your attitude not your baldness that's the problem!"

SMFH :shakehead: FMFL

NO! the problem is not with us... the problem is with you hating on us and not having the guts or decency to admit it - that is the problem.

First of all many people have trouble with interviews. An African American might hear the same things ("we love your energy and your attitude but we just don't feel you are the right fit.")and wonder "is it because I'm black?" A Gay man might have the same experience and think "Is it because I'm gay?" A woman might as well, and think "Is it because I'm a woman?" Or even a short man.
The truth is we can't know, not usually. Sometimes an employer is found to have a hiring bias, generally though it's quite hard to pin down on an individual basis. The point isn't that discrimination doesn't exist, it's that most people deal better with it than you. Many of these things having more importance than baldness. I'm glad I'm not gay, black, or a woman. Being a white man, even a bald one has it's advantages. As Louis C.K once so eloquently put it "I'd re up on this **** every year if I could."

Eureka, would you mind sharing age and Norwood status?

25(started at 15) between 2-3(with diffuse in the NW5 pattern + mild vertex thinning). Started shaving it awhile ago due to the diffuse aspect, which had me looking like McConaugheys mugshot when under harsh light. It's unfortunate really, I would be quite happy with the amount of hair I have if it weren't so unhealthy and doll like, flimsy fine hairs, triangle shapes of recession along the hairline etc. But that's life (shrug).

Maybe i have a better POV because i am judging the quote itself rather than the person who quoted it.

Perhaps we simply have different sensibilities regarding humor. Either way Cave is quite inspiring in general, but also regarding male pattern baldness.

Oh yes it must be our fault that we are villains in every action movie and are dissed on TV shows and commercials, of course.

No, It's our fault if we choose to focus only on the negative portrayals.

Yes but what kind of a life? We can live with the most basic of needs such as breathing, food, water. These are at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs as posted by Hellouser before.

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However living a life and attaining higher needs is extremely difficult or not possible as a bald man.

This is simply untrue. I don't think even UM would go as far as you do. You act as if being bald is the equivalent to being black amid slavery. We are not treated like animals, it is a gross mischaracterization to pretend otherwise.
 

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This is simply untrue. I don't think even UM would go as far as you do. You act as if being bald is the equivalent to being black amid slavery. We are not treated like animals, it is a gross mischaracterization to pretend otherwise.

Wildly exaggerated comparison. However, bald men most definitely are treated like trash. It's interesting how someone on a hair loss forum would deny that.

Do you even have hair loss?

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What a ****ty personality you have, and wonder why people reject you...

Why are you here?
 

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Anyone watch the strain on FX? Apparently Corey Stoll's baldness was so offensive they have to give him some stupid wig to wear. He even happens to be one of the rare few who pulls off the shaved head look rather well.
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Anyone watch the strain on FX? Apparently Corey Stoll's baldness was so offensive they have to give him some stupid wig to wear. He even happens to be one of the rare few who pulls off the shaved head look rather well.

Not really. With his shaved head he looks like the typical baldie who doesn't project any personality at all and can't get laid, so the decision is understandable if they wanted to give him identity.
 

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Bald alpha-male in video game (best NW6 haircut EVER):

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If you are facing a problem because of your bald scalp, just listen to a boss music and everything will be ok.
 

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That is an awesome NW6 haircut.
 

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Anyone watch the strain on FX? Apparently Corey Stoll's baldness was so offensive they have to give him some stupid wig to wear. He even happens to be one of the rare few who pulls off the shaved head look rather well.

HOLY CRAP! We knew that hair looked fake. We were laughing at that

Perfect example though

Look how good looking he is with hair

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then how bad without

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Well maybe someone can CGI Statham drop kicking the model out of the car and going all Transporter on Hepburn, stuffing her in the trunk and driving like a maniac!

Nah, Statham pulling out a sawed off shotgun and shooting said nw1 at point blank range in the face, exploding his pretty-boy head like a grapefruit to delighted, rapturous applause from Audrey Hepburn would have sufficed for me! lol

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HOLY CRAP! We knew that hair looked fake. We were laughing at that

Perfect example though

Look how good looking he is with hair

Yup, just goes to show the importance of head shape. You can have great bone structure, very decent features like this guy, but if the headshape and thus the face proportion, is even slightly off, the whole look just goes to sh%t and doesn't work. This is the same for me, good bone structure, very decent features, but sh%t headshape destroys my chances of ever fully pulling off the shaved look. Sucks.

Only the round, square, well proportioned headshapes can pull off this look legit 100%.

...Also, he looks deceptively good in the first pic because his facial hair is grown longer, giving the appearance of a stronger and more pronounced jaw (I play this trick all the time and so should every bald/balding man) as opposed to the 2nd pic where he's cleanshaved and exposing the average appearance of his jaw and chin, which cuts jarringly beside his enormous cranium.

Strategic facial hair is like make up for men, every guy should have some facial hair tricks up their sleeve to compliment the proportions of their face.
 

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Nah, Statham pulling out a sawed off shotgun and shooting said nw1 at point blank range in the face, exploding his pretty-boy head like a grapefruit to delighted, rapturous applause from Audrey Hepburn would have sufficed for me! lol

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Yup, just goes to show the importance of head shape. You can have great bone structure, very decent features like this guy, but if the headshape and thus the face proportion, is even slightly off, the whole look just goes to sh%t and doesn't work. This is the same for me, good bone structure, very decent features, but sh%t headshape destroys my chances of ever fully pulling off the shaved look. Sucks.

Only the round, square, well proportioned headshapes can pull off this look legit 100%.

...Also, he looks deceptively good in the first pic because his facial hair is grown longer, giving the appearance of a stronger and more pronounced jaw (I play this trick all the time and so should every bald/balding man) as opposed to the 2nd pic where he's cleanshaved and exposing the average appearance of his jaw and chin, which cuts jarringly beside his enormous cranium.

Strategic facial hair is like make up for men, every guy should have some facial hair tricks up their sleeve to compliment the proportions of their face.


I actually picked both these pics cause he is facing the same direction and has the moustache in them.

I wish I could grown my top hair longer but after a certain length is gets curly and just doesnt work. I keep it bare minimum I can still cover the crown and temples but not long enough its awkward. Losing ground on that as well tho.
 

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Another example: Star Trek Voyager. The only bald person in the crew is the lamo doctor.
 

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Another example: Star Trek Voyager. The only bald person in the crew is the lamo doctor.

The doctor is one of the stars of the show and has a bunch of episodes dedicated entirely to him. Some of the best episodes in the series feature the doctor. A couple of his episodes are a bit light hearted but he's hardly the "lamo doctor" just there for light relief. I recall various episodes where he has to manage the ship by himself because the rest of the crew are incapacitated etc. etc.

[video=youtube;LQo0fBzMO8Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQo0fBzMO8Y[/video]

...and how about TNG?
 

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He is one of the stars of the show, but see how he is portrayed in the beginning of the series. He is not comic relief, but he is portrayed as somewhat powerless. TNG: Apart from Stewart (who was almost made to wear a wig), any else who was bald?
 

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Ha! I think a lot of people of this forum need to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOK-ZVJMaU

I'm not trying to be a jerk but even Patrick Stewart had problems with hair loss. Sure, he has played awesome roles now and has lots of $$$ but he had to overcome hair loss first, and the worst part is that the majority of us will never be as fortunate as he is.

So, besides that guy and Jason Statham or Vin Diesel (both with decent facial expressions, enviable body and tons of money), please name one hero/icon/character that is bald and women would desire as much as say Robert Downey Jr.? Correct answer, you can't.
Hollywood distorts the way public perceive the loss of hair. Take a look at Tony Soprano, Voldemort, Walter White, Dr. Evil, etc. A bald character is secondary or just the bad guy, never a charming heroic figure.
 

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Ha! I think a lot of people of this forum need to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOK-ZVJMaU

I'm not trying to be a jerk but even Patrick Stewart had problems with hair loss. Sure, he has played awesome roles now and has lots of $$$ but he had to overcome hair loss first, and the worst part is that the majority of us will never be as fortunate as he is.

So, besides that guy and Jason Statham or Vin Diesel (both with decent facial expressions, enviable body and tons of money), please name one hero/icon/character that is bald and women would desire as much as say Robert Downey Jr.? Correct answer, you can't.
Hollywood distorts the way public perceive the loss of hair. Take a look at Tony Soprano, Voldemort, Walter White, Dr. Evil, etc. A bald character is secondary or just the bad guy, never a charming heroic figure.

Tony Soprano did alright with the ladies but he usually had to SHOWER them with gifts. I think thats just a guido thing tho to.

Seriously though aside Star Trek what could we say a young patrick stewart was in?
Im just not sure honestly. I never remember seeing him in anything pre trek. And in trek he was already an old man so its king of okay for that baldness.
Also he does have a pretty awesome voice.

[video=youtube_share;_hPHicayBQM]http://youtu.be/_hPHicayBQM?t=8s[/video]
 

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lol, he played a king in Excalibur (1980's) and also participated as king again in the comedic (early 1990's) Robin Hood. But still you are right, no Captain Jean Luc Picard nor Professor X. People keep using him as an example because he is the only close-to-average bald guy that went far in film, when he clearly states how hard was to overcome that stage and also notice how people laugh about it while the guy is telling the story, it's very frustrating.
 

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Iron Man 3.
Evil backstabbing Vice President: Bald.
 
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