The TRUTH about hairloss here:5 Years Later:Aged 16 - 22

Obsidian

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Someone else who tells me that my life is going to be 2nd rate because I am bald is probably just miserable they made their life 2nd rate because of their baldness and wants to make others miserable too.
 

s.a.f

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Last blade said:
Imo attraction is about confidence, positivity, originality, individuality, dynamisim, desire....what does any of that have to do with hair?

Quite alot if hairloss makes you look less atractive and lowers your confidence.
 

Route66

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Last blade - with respect, all this thinking positive stuff has no credibility coming from you because of what you've posted elsewhere. There are some people who can carry on as if they hadn't lost any hair, but those people probably wouldn't even bother coming here. I don't think you're as positive as you claim; I think you're in denial. You're trying to convince yourself that hair loss doesn't really make any difference because you don't want to confront the enormity of it. It's like the man who loses his job, and tries to kid himself it's a blessing in disguise. In fact, the positive response to any crisis is to recognize how catastrophic it is, and deal with it; not pretend it isn't really catastrophic. Otherwise you're suppressing negative emotions, which is extremely unhealthy.

To be fair, you're not the only guy on this forum who's doing this by any means. In fact, your attitude is natural; just misplaced.

If I've completely misread you, and you really have found tranquility with your hair loss, then apologies. However, as I say, there's no point in you being here now then, is there?

Obsidian said:
Someone else who tells me that my life is going to be 2nd rate because I am bald is probably just miserable they made their life 2nd rate because of their baldness and wants to make others miserable too.

I wouldn't say it'll be 2nd rate, but it certainly won't be as good. And nope, I didn't make my life 2nd rate because of hair loss, and I don't want to make others miserable. I do believe, though, you have to be cruel to be kind, and tell the no bullshit truth, which in this case means having hair is much better than not having it, and it's worth going to great lengths to preserve/regain it. And this 'theory' is backed up by years of experience of seeing how losing hair, and not losing it, has affected the confidence, success and general happiness of many men I've known. Not vain, weak, men; just normal ones.
 

s.a.f

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Route66 said:
Obsidian said:
Someone else who tells me that my life is going to be 2nd rate because I am bald is probably just miserable they made their life 2nd rate because of their baldness and wants to make others miserable too.

I wouldn't say it'll be 2nd rate, but it certainly won't be as good. And nope, I didn't make my life 2nd rate because of hair loss, and I don't want to make others miserable. I do believe, though, you have to be cruel to be kind, and tell the no bullshit truth, which in this case means having hair is much better than not having it, and it's worth going to great lengths to preserve/regain it. And this 'theory' is backed up by years of experience of seeing how losing hair, and not losing it, has affected the confidence, success and general happiness of many men I've known. Not vain, weak, men; just normal ones.

Good post especially relevent when you consider that Obsidian is on here preaching to us as someone with a virtually full head of hair.
 

ghg

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s.a.f said:
Route66 said:
Obsidian said:
Someone else who tells me that my life is going to be 2nd rate because I am bald is probably just miserable they made their life 2nd rate because of their baldness and wants to make others miserable too.

I wouldn't say it'll be 2nd rate, but it certainly won't be as good. And nope, I didn't make my life 2nd rate because of hair loss, and I don't want to make others miserable. I do believe, though, you have to be cruel to be kind, and tell the no bullshit truth, which in this case means having hair is much better than not having it, and it's worth going to great lengths to preserve/regain it. And this 'theory' is backed up by years of experience of seeing how losing hair, and not losing it, has affected the confidence, success and general happiness of many men I've known. Not vain, weak, men; just normal ones.

Good post especially relevent when you consider that Obsidian is on here preaching to us as someone with a virtually full head of hair.

Everyone who isn't completely bald has a virtually full head of hair to you.
 

uncomfortable man

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Route66 said:
Last blade - with respect, all this thinking positive stuff has no credibility coming from you because of what you've posted elsewhere. There are some people who can carry on as if they hadn't lost any hair, but those people probably wouldn't even bother coming here. I don't think you're as positive as you claim; I think you're in denial. You're trying to convince yourself that hair loss doesn't really make any difference because you don't want to confront the enormity of it. It's like the man who loses his job, and tries to kid himself it's a blessing in disguise. In fact, the positive response to any crisis is to recognize how catastrophic it is, and deal with it; not pretend it isn't really catastrophic. Otherwise you're suppressing negative emotions, which is extremely unhealthy.

To be fair, you're not the only guy on this forum who's doing this by any means. In fact, your attitude is natural; just misplaced.

If I've completely misread you, and you really have found tranquility with your hair loss, then apologies. However, as I say, there's no point in you being here now then, is there?

Obsidian said:
Someone else who tells me that my life is going to be 2nd rate because I am bald is probably just miserable they made their life 2nd rate because of their baldness and wants to make others miserable too.

I wouldn't say it'll be 2nd rate, but it certainly won't be as good. And nope, I didn't make my life 2nd rate because of hair loss, and I don't want to make others miserable. I do believe, though, you have to be cruel to be kind, and tell the no bullshit truth, which in this case means having hair is much better than not having it, and it's worth going to great lengths to preserve/regain it. And this 'theory' is backed up by years of experience of seeing how losing hair, and not losing it, has affected the confidence, success and general happiness of many men I've known. Not vain, weak, men; just normal ones.
Bring it in for a hug.
 

s.a.f

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ghg said:
Everyone who isn't completely bald has a virtually full head of hair to you.

Oh I'm sorry just like you this guy is a total slaphead.
Hey at least being so bald he does'nt have to shell out money on shampoos and haircuts though.

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Thats more hair than I ever had, and this guy is telling NW4/5/6's that they should just accept being bald when he's on this site thinking that he has a hairloss problem. :dunno:
 

Obsidian

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Oh I forgot Route 66, you're the fortune teller for my future. How about you don't tell me how I will enjoy life? :)

S.A.F., I didn't see a sign that says anything above NW3 only allowed on this part of the forum. How about you stop you start using your balding towards something constructive.

Besides it's different for everyone, I never lectured to anyone, I just said don't tell me how I am going to feel when I hit my NW6-7 diffuse status.

Besides tell me you think I feel that I know developed R.H. from Propecia and I am possibly going to lose my hair faster than now than I would have liked?

How do you think I feel when I see my Dad at almost 60 years of age and he still has a NW1 and I am headed for this in the next few years?
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uncomfortable man

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s.a.f said:
That's what I thought. :roll: Look, it would be one thing if you were an nw5 coming on here and telling us how you're brave journey through hairloss has taught you life lessons like overcoming depression, having to adjust your style to fit your lack of hair, debating on weather to shave it all off, cover it up and hide or get multiple hair transplants and of course dealing with social rejection- you know, the things bald guys have to wrestle with. Things you know nothing about frankly, so you're little sermon holds no credibility with me. You're not even close to an nw3 btw, nw2 at the most but regardless, a socially acceptable amount of hair none the less (and to think you were contemplating suicide...over what?!). I've been nw5 for almost ten years now and every single day is a struggle. You have no idea what it is like to be bald, so don't you dare come on here and tell the few of us that are how to feel about it. You claim to know the TRUTH about hairloss? What a joke. Maybe for your level of hairloss it is no big deal, but what happens to all these good vibes when you have a horseshoe with nothing but skin on top!? You don't know how it feels or what going bald can do to a person and if you did, then you would probably be singing a different tune.
 

Obsidian

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When was I talking to you in this UM? I was addressing Route66 who is an NW3 at 42, telling me how I won't enjoy almost anything in life just because of baldness.

EDIT: Nevermind, I am putting you on ignore, I don't need your infectious attitude around me.
 

uncomfortable man

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Oops, my bad. I thought those pictures were of the OP, not you Obsidian. So naturally I didn't intend for that last message to be for you.....per say. :whistle:
 

Route66

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Obsidian - my biggest hair loss problem is Alopecia Areata. male pattern baldness is a secondary problem. Regardless, I made it clear that hair loss hasn't ruined my life (it's more like a very irritating problem - not a life changing thing - irritating enough to get it fixed though). However, I've seen how severe hair loss has ruined, or at least significantly diminished the quality of, many men's lives; guys I know who lost their attractivness, confidence, etc. For this reason, my sincere advice to anyone of your age is to do everything you can to maintain/regain hair.

Having said this, your hair loss appears to be VERY mild, and you're a very good looking guy (no, I'm not gay), so, unless you lose a lot more hair, your hair loss is unlikely to affect you much, if at all.

As I say, I'm talking about men who've lost a lot of hair, and can't carry off the bald look.
 

Innermind

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DragonQuestFan said:
Probably the only real important thing that concerns me about hair loss and baldness is whether or not it will cause to me to miss employment opportunities. Sure, people are more accepting of the buzzed head or bald look nowadays, but still I wonder if I will get in a situation where a potential employer will pass over me for a job and hire someone else will a more fuller head of hair.

wow. I just graduated college, and being a Norwood diffuse 6(see my profile pic), I can not tell you how many times that goes through my head. What if I had a full head of hair? Would it increase my chances of employment.....Chances are it would greatly increase my chances in sales, but probably not so much in behind the scenes work. I think i read somewhere that a man with hair is 15% more likely to get the job, make the sale, get the girl, get the promottion etc. Looks are an essential part of the way people percieve us, and wether or not we admit it, looks effect everyone on a subconscious level even if we are aware of it.
 

uncomfortable man

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Hey InnerMind, I saw your pics and you're the real deal. Always glad to see another proper bald guy on the forum. Welcome.
 

HatPrisoner91

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ghg said:
Everyone who isn't completely bald has a virtually full head of hair to you.

That is the truth. See what you don't get is what people are complaining about, bald guys would die to have.

I see guys all the time who are NW3 or NW4. Yes they are balding and many times it's STOPS there. I would love to have that Hypothetically, I guess with tons of hair transplant's and BHT's I could be close to a NW4. But that would cost 100,000 which I will never have.

So back on subject, when a guy has gone bald, yes he does see anyone not bald as having hair. Why? Because they DO! God, I wish I could just have some spordaic stubble up there. It would cut down on some of the penis-head glare on my head.
 

IBM

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If its consultancy then baldies are better positioned than full heads of hair. Bald consultants are more humble and less trouble maker then those full head of hair.
 
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